Archive MAC Season Chatter

Jughead

Posts: 1,261

Feb 13, 2012 4:44pm

If you separate the MAC East and West into separate conferences, you have conference RPI's of 11 and 29...and yet I hear constant complaints about football when the difference is miniscule compared to basketball.

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rootforroo44

Posts: 2

Feb 14, 2012 9:13pm

Jughead;1084923 wrote:If you separate the MAC East and West into separate conferences, you have conference RPI's of 11 and 29...and yet I hear constant complaints about football when the difference is miniscule compared to basketball.

It's actually a little worse than that. MAC East= 8, MAC West=29

http://akronsportsnow.com/the-miserable-mac-west-and-how-its-killing-the-conference/

Pick6

Posts: 14,946

Feb 14, 2012 9:15pm

Kent State beats Buffalo and give the Zips a little more breathing room atop the MAC. No game in the East is a guaranteed win.

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FairwoodKing

Posts: 2,504

Feb 15, 2012 11:21pm

It doesn't matter how much breathing room Kent gave Akron. The MAC is only going to get one bid to the NCAA's, so the only thing that counts is who gets hot in the tourney. Don't rule out Kent. They have an issue to settle with Akron.

Heretic

Posts: 18,820

Feb 16, 2012 12:33pm

OU looked like a real team after losing two straight to the LOLWEST. 13-point win at home over BG is good because it avenges an earlier loss. They pretty much to win about every remaining game just to get a good tournament seed. Talent-wise they can be the conference's bid, but consistency-wise, they don't have it right now. Need to use these next couple weeks to try to string wins together.

Pick6

Posts: 14,946

Feb 16, 2012 5:10pm

FairwoodKing;1087286 wrote:It doesn't matter how much breathing room Kent gave Akron. The MAC is only going to get one bid to the NCAA's, so the only thing that counts is who gets hot in the tourney. Don't rule out Kent. They have an issue to settle with Akron.

obviously, but a #1 or #2 seed assures a double bye in the MAC tournament which is going to give you a better chance of actually winning it instead of having to play the 5 games in 5 days or whatever.

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FairwoodKing

Posts: 2,504

Feb 18, 2012 9:03pm

Akron, Kent, and Buffalo all lost in the Bracketbuster today. That doesn't look good for the MAC.

Pick6

Posts: 14,946

Feb 21, 2012 11:17pm

Kent lost to Miami tonight. An Akron win against BG tomorrow and an OU win over Buffalo gives Akron atleast a share of the MAC title.

Jughead

Posts: 1,261

Feb 26, 2012 12:51am

Pick6;1088033 wrote:obviously, but a #1 or #2 seed assures a double bye in the MAC tournament which is going to give you a better chance of actually winning it instead of having to play the 5 games in 5 days or whatever.

Actually, the #1 and #2 seeds get a triple bye while the #3 and #4 get the double bye.

Kent lost to Bowling Green today and Buffalo beat Miami making the game between OU and Akron tomorrow evening (8PM on ESPNU) that much more important for the Bobcats. Currently, the Bulls have an half game lead on the Bobcats and a full game lead on the Golden Flashes.

ts1227

Posts: 12,319

Feb 26, 2012 8:08pm

Dear FSU/Miami game,
Please end, I do not give a shit, and Akron/Ohio has already started.

ts1227

Posts: 12,319

Feb 26, 2012 8:52pm

46-27 Ohio at the half, Akron with 12 turnovers and Ohio cannot miss (save a few dumb shots by Cooper)

Pick6

Posts: 14,946

Feb 26, 2012 10:05pm

horrible loss for Akron tonight. Hopefully a big wake up call for these guys getting ready to head into the conference tournament.

ts1227

Posts: 12,319

Feb 26, 2012 10:08pm

Ohio mops the floor with Akron, 85-61. They'll have to wait until Wednesday to clinch outright.

EAST
Akron 12-2 (20-9)
Ohio 10-4 (23-6)
Buffalo 10-4 (17-9)
Kent 9-5 (19-9)
BG 8-6 (15-13)
Miami 5-9 (9-18)

WEST
EMU 8-6 (13-16)
Toledo 6-8 (15-14)
WMU 6-8 (12-17)
Ball St. 4-10 (13-14)
CMU 4-10 (9-19)
NIU 2-12 (3-24)

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dave

Posts: 4,558

Feb 26, 2012 10:45pm

Is EMU guaranteed a top 2 or top 4 seed or is it just straight conference records to determine all seeding? I don't think they get the 2 seed but can't remember.

ts1227

Posts: 12,319

Feb 26, 2012 10:47pm

dave;1097177 wrote:Is EMU guaranteed a top 2 or top 4 seed or is it just straight conference records to determine all seeding? I don't think they get the 2 seed but can't remember.

Straight seeding this year. #2 West pity seed is gone.

2 seed will most likely be Ohio or Buffalo (Ohio holds tiebreak if it comes to that)

Azubuike24

Posts: 15,933

Feb 26, 2012 10:58pm

OU sent a statement tonight. They blasted Akron. Surprising. I still like OU to get the auto bid.

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dave

Posts: 4,558

Feb 26, 2012 11:00pm

Just found it, EMU will be the #4 seed.

ts1227

Posts: 12,319

Feb 26, 2012 11:07pm

dave;1097193 wrote:Just found it, EMU will be the #4 seed.

Where did you find that? Everything I've seen says they are guaranteed nothing more than what they earn (which is 5 right now)

Recently approved by the Conference's Council of Director of Athletics, the new format will seed both tournaments by rewarding the No. 1 and No. 2 seeds with a bye into the semifinal round, while the No. 3 and No. 4 seeds will receive a bye to the quarterfinal round. Seeding will be determined by winning percentage, regardless of division.

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dave

Posts: 4,558

Feb 26, 2012 11:44pm

http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2011/08/mac_changes_its_basketball_tou.html

Who knows if that is correct though. They really just need to get rid of the divisions, no need for it in basketball.

Pick6

Posts: 14,946

Feb 26, 2012 11:56pm

dave;1097229 wrote:http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2011/08/mac_changes_its_basketball_tou.html

Who knows if that is correct though. They really just need to get rid of the divisions, no need for it in basketball.

it makes scheduling easier. plus I dont Akron want to play any west teams more than we have to. They kill the RPI.

Heretic

Posts: 18,820

Feb 27, 2012 4:40pm

Azubuike24;1097191 wrote:OU sent a statement tonight. They blasted Akron. Surprising. I still like OU to get the auto bid.

Yep. It was glorious to watch. After the embarrassing back-to-back losses to West Division teams, they've played really well for the last few outings. They just can't suffer any letdowns. Having the #2 seed for the tournament would be great.

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dave

Posts: 4,558

Feb 28, 2012 4:46pm

Pick6;1097236 wrote:it makes scheduling easier. plus I dont Akron want to play any west teams more than we have to. They kill the RPI.

Scheduling is not hard, almost every conference that uses divisions in football doesn't in football. You are only talking about a change of a couple games. RPI is irrelevant in the MAC, it's a 1 bid league. What are there, a couple teams with rpi in the top 100?

ts1227

Posts: 12,319

Feb 28, 2012 7:05pm

dave;1099463 wrote:Scheduling is not hard, almost every conference that uses divisions in football doesn't in football. You are only talking about a change of a couple games. RPI is irrelevant in the MAC, it's a 1 bid league. What are there, a couple teams with rpi in the top 100?

If the MAC East were its own conference, it would rank 8th in conference RPI. If the West were, it would be 29th. One of the main reasons East schools aren't in the top 100 by this time if the year is because those 6 straight games against teams with an RPI of 250 in the West tanks it.

Azubuike24

Posts: 15,933

Feb 29, 2012 8:49pm

Really surprised Kent beat OU.

ts1227

Posts: 12,319

Feb 29, 2012 11:24pm

EAST
Akron 12-3 (20-10)
Buffalo 11-4 (18-9)
Ohio 10-5 (23-7)
Kent 10-5 (20-9)
BG 9-6 (16-13)
Miami 5-10 (9-19)

WEST
EMU 9-6 (14-16)
Toledo 6-9 (15-15)
WMU 6-9 (12-18)
Ball St. 5-10 (14-14)
CMU 4-11 (9-20)
NIU 3-12 (4-24)

All Akron has to do is win for the 1 seed, or lose and have Buffalo lose.
If Buffalo beats BG AND Akron loses to Kent, Buffalo gets the 1 via head to head tiebreak (beat Akron twice).
Ohio can still get the 2 if Buffalo loses to BG AND Ohio beats Miami. Ohio can also fall to the 5 if they lose and Kent, EMU wins.