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Feb 16, 2012 10:17 AM
Y-Town Steelhound;1087515 wrote:Clausen still has a better arm than McCoy....just sayin'
Clausen graded out to an 8.6 McCoy to an 7.6 according to the NFL's draft analysts, plus Clausen was taken over McCoy.

Not saying Clausen is better because we've seen plenty of QBs outperform those taken in front of them, but kind of just using it as more of a basis for my Panthers/Browns comparison.
Feb 16, 2012 10:17am
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Feb 16, 2012 10:26 AM
like_that;1087524 wrote:Yeah, I was about to edit my post and say that. I still think McCoy is better.
I agree, mostly because I'd rather have Colt McCoy's toughness/leadership than Clausen's whiny/egotistical attitude.
Feb 16, 2012 10:26am
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Feb 16, 2012 3:22 PM
What flashes did Clausen show?
Feb 16, 2012 3:22pm
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Feb 16, 2012 4:26 PM
Mulva;1087929 wrote:What flashes did Clausen show?
sucking ass
Feb 16, 2012 4:26pm
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Feb 16, 2012 4:52 PM
Mulva;1087929 wrote:What flashes did Clausen show?
What flashes did McCoy show? Maybe they are more similar.
Feb 16, 2012 4:52pm
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Feb 16, 2012 5:30 PM
Skyhook79;1088023 wrote:What flashes did McCoy show? Maybe they are more similar.
You can start with his 80 or so yard drive to beat the Dolphins.
Feb 16, 2012 5:30pm
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Feb 16, 2012 6:14 PM
like_that;1088054 wrote:You can start with his 80 or so yard drive to beat the Dolphins.
Is that the same Dolphin team that Tebow came back on from being down 15-0 and you said big deal it was the Dolphins?
Feb 16, 2012 6:14pm
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Feb 16, 2012 6:19 PM
Skyhook79;1088104 wrote:Is that the same Dolphin team that Tebow came back on from being down 15-0 and you said big deal it was the Dolphins?
Link?
Feb 16, 2012 6:19pm
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Feb 16, 2012 6:20 PM
Skyhook79;1088023 wrote:What flashes did McCoy show? Maybe they are more similar.
Rookie numbers

Clausen: 3 TD, 9 INT, 52.5%, 5.2 Y/A, 1-9 record as starter
McCoy: 6 TD, 9 INT, 60.8%, 7.1 Y/A, 2-6 record as starter

Really not even close. Clausen had a QB rating of < 55 in 7 out of the 12 games in which he attempted 13+ passes. Compare that to only 2 games with a QB rating of > 76 (76 would still rank just about dead last in the NFL). He never threw for over 200 yards, and again, 3 touchdowns in 12 games of extended action.

McCoy only had 2 games with a QB rating of lower than 68. His QB rating was 80+ 5/8 games, and over 100 twice. Passed for at least 200 yards 5 times. He wasn't good, but he definitely showed flashes.

Clausen showed nothing.

McCoy didn't improve this year. That's why he's going to be replaced. But his numbers this season were still way better than anything Clausen ever put up.
Feb 16, 2012 6:20pm
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Feb 16, 2012 6:23 PM
^^^ not to mention McCoy plays in the toughest division in the league.
Feb 16, 2012 6:23pm
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Feb 16, 2012 6:59 PM
Pick6;1088110 wrote:^^^ not to mention McCoy plays in the toughest division in the league.
Rookie Andy Daulton didn't seem to struggle in the "toughest division in the league" and Joe Flacco went undefeated in the "toughest Division in the league".
Feb 16, 2012 6:59pm
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Feb 16, 2012 8:40 PM
like_that;1088107 wrote:Link?
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/
Feb 16, 2012 8:40pm
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Feb 16, 2012 8:41 PM
Skyhook79;1088260 wrote:http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/
Nice to see you admit to making shit up. Nice fail.
Feb 16, 2012 8:41pm
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Feb 16, 2012 8:48 PM
like_that;1088263 wrote:Nice to see you admit to making shit up. Nice fail.
I gave you the link, which is what you asked for, quit being lazy and find it yourself it's not like you have something better to do.
Feb 16, 2012 8:48pm
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Feb 16, 2012 8:57 PM
Skyhook79;1088274 wrote:I will just continue to spew bullshit, because I have nothing.
k, thanks.
Feb 16, 2012 8:57pm
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Feb 16, 2012 8:59 PM
Skyhook79;1088274 wrote:I gave you the link, which is what you asked for, quit being lazy and find it yourself it's not like you have something better to do.
You refuse to look up what he asked, yet he's the lazy one?

#logicfail /skyhook'd
Feb 16, 2012 8:59pm
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Feb 16, 2012 9:01 PM
lhslep134;1088280 wrote:You refuse to look up what he asked, yet he's the lazy one?

#logicfail /skyhook'd
I'd rep you, but i have to wait 24 hours. I wasted all my reps on everyone who pwned skyhook in this thread http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?31559-Cut-out-the-personal-attacks-and-over-the-top-name-calling&p=1087506&viewfull=1#post1087506
Feb 16, 2012 9:01pm
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Feb 17, 2012 8:21 AM
lhslep134;1088280 wrote:You refuse to look up what he asked, yet he's the lazy one?

#logicfail /skyhook'd
I Have better things to do he doesn't. Do you do everything someone tells you to do?
Feb 17, 2012 8:21am
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Feb 17, 2012 8:27 AM
Skyhook79;1088614 wrote:I Have better things to do he doesn't. Do you do everything someone tells you to do?
Trolling takes up a lot of your time I see. Still waiting for your link.
Feb 17, 2012 8:27am
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Feb 17, 2012 9:09 AM
like_that;1088618 wrote:Trolling takes up a lot of your time I see. Still waiting for your link.

Feb 17, 2012 9:09am
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Feb 17, 2012 1:04 PM
Mulva;1087929 wrote:What flashes did Clausen show?
In the NFL? None, in limited time as a rookie on the worst team in the league. They were sooooo young and abysmal.

Call me biased but he will hang around in the NFL and surprise everyone saying that he is terrible, he was absolutely unstoppable at Notre Dame when they finally got their offense together.
Feb 17, 2012 1:04pm
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Feb 17, 2012 1:16 PM
sjmvsfscs08;1088873 wrote:In the NFL? None, in limited time as a rookie on the worst team in the league. They were sooooo young and abysmal.

Call me biased but he will hang around in the NFL and surprise everyone saying that he is terrible, he was absolutely unstoppable at Notre Dame when they finally got their offense together.
LOL

Clausen is awful, and will be out of the NFL in a couple years.
Feb 17, 2012 1:16pm