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Jan 24, 2012 3:10 PM
BR1986FB;1064123 wrote:No...he already fapped all over his Facebook wall when I posted it there. He hasn't even commented about it over here...probably still smoking a cigarette after his dirty work.

Lol, yeah I haven't been on here today.

Anyhow, I will just say what I said on Facebook....

He would be a good mentor to a young qb for a year. He is well liked and respected. But he would be a one year stop gap....just to hand the reins over to the browns future franchise qb.


Also, he is dynamic at running the West coast offense
Jan 24, 2012 3:10pm
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Jan 24, 2012 3:14 PM
I don't really want to waste a pick on a "developmental QB". That would be my issue more than Hasselbeck.
Jan 24, 2012 3:14pm
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Jan 24, 2012 3:15 PM
wes_mantooth;1064236 wrote:He would be a good mentor to a young qb for a year.
Not when he's looking over his shoulder 24/7 because you're ignoring the restraining order.
Jan 24, 2012 3:15pm
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Jan 24, 2012 3:17 PM
Heretic;1064243 wrote:Not when he's looking over his shoulder 24/7 because you're ignoring the restraining order.

Lol...I am not going to lie....a hasselbeck browns Jersey would be my most amazing possession.
Jan 24, 2012 3:17pm
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Jan 24, 2012 3:19 PM
wes_mantooth;1064250 wrote:Lol...I am not going to lie....a hasselbeck browns Jersey would be my most amazing possession besides my left hand.
fixed
Jan 24, 2012 3:19pm
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Jan 24, 2012 3:23 PM
BR1986FB;1064255 wrote:fixed

neg.....it is the right hand of course!
Jan 24, 2012 3:23pm
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Jan 24, 2012 11:21 PM
I'm warming up to the idea of taking RG3. I think a good player to compare him to is Donavan McNabb.

I'd be ok with it... as long as they can stay put at #4 and get him.

RG3 at #4. Alshon Jeffery at #22. Mike Adams at #37. RB at #68... maybe Isaiah Pead. LB, CB, or DE in the 4th. They can get 2 out of 3. Get the other in the 5th.

That could work.

We'll have to see what happens this week, and at the combine.
Jan 24, 2012 11:21pm
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Jan 25, 2012 4:49 AM
BTrev;1064702 wrote:I'm warming up to the idea of taking RG3. I think a good player to compare him to is Donavan McNabb.

I'd be ok with it... as long as they can stay put at #4 and get him.

RG3 at #4. Alshon Jeffery at #22. Mike Adams at #37. RB at #68... maybe Isaiah Pead. LB, CB, or DE in the 4th. They can get 2 out of 3. Get the other in the 5th.

That could work.

We'll have to see what happens this week, and at the combine.
Unfortunately I think Jeffery & Adams are gone by 22 & 37.
Jan 25, 2012 4:49am
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Jan 25, 2012 4:49 AM
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Jan 25, 2012 4:49am
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Jan 25, 2012 8:00 AM
No thanks on Weeden.
Jan 25, 2012 8:00am
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Jan 25, 2012 8:33 AM
Commander of Awesome;1064848 wrote:No thanks on Weeden.
Actually hearing they are pretty enamored with him.

If Weeden were 5-6 years younger I don't think a lot of people are having this conversation. I think he'd be in the mix with Luck & RG3 for a top 10 QB. Has all the tools but the age scares many.
Jan 25, 2012 8:33am
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Jan 25, 2012 9:38 AM
BR1986FB;1064869 wrote:Actually hearing they are pretty enamored with him.

If Weeden were 5-6 years younger I don't think a lot of people are having this conversation. I think he'd be in the mix with Luck & RG3 for a top 10 QB. Has all the tools but the age scares many.
Love his film. He is 6'4" 218 w/ a strong arm. But, if you take him you better hope he is ready to play at a high level pretty quickly. He has what, probably 8 years at most of football left in him?
Jan 25, 2012 9:38am
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Jan 25, 2012 9:41 AM
Wooball;1064919 wrote:Love his film. He is 6'4" 218 w/ a strong arm. But, if you take him you better hope he is ready to play at a high level pretty quickly. He has what, probably 8 years at most of football left in him?
Very good point and I neglected to mention that. Weeden doesn't have the luxury of having time to be groomed. He needs to "get it" right out of the chute. No Aaron Rodgers "sit & learn" for him.
Jan 25, 2012 9:41am
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Jan 25, 2012 9:48 AM
Yeah, Weeden is not coming to the Browns. He will be 29 by week 5 next season. I can see a current contender taking him on as a backup though (i.e. texans).
Jan 25, 2012 9:48am
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Jan 25, 2012 9:58 AM
I would be pissed if we drafted him. I think if the Browns miss out on RG3 or bringing in a guy like Kolb or Flynn I would think we'd go all in for Foles.
Jan 25, 2012 9:58am
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Jan 25, 2012 10:03 AM
Yeah, no thanks on Chris Wein.....Brandon Weeden.
Jan 25, 2012 10:03am
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Jan 25, 2012 10:21 AM
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Jan 25, 2012 10:21am
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Jan 25, 2012 11:01 AM
BR1986FB;1064984 wrote:http://networkedblogs.com/t9otF

I'd be perfectly ok with this. Mike Adams started his career off slowly in Columbus but has shown consistent improvement each year. The guy definitely passes the eye test and has the physical abilities to be a good tackle in this league, plus an injection of youth at RT is sorely needed. Do they see if he's available in the 2nd or would it take the 22nd pick to get him in the 1st?

Br, what are your thoughts since you are typically anti-Buckeye?
Jan 25, 2012 11:01am
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Jan 25, 2012 11:01 AM
like_that;1064940 wrote:Yeah, Weeden is not coming to the Browns. He will be 29 by week 5 next season. I can see a current contender taking him on as a backup though (i.e. texans).
I agree. I think that is the role that best suits him. Perhaps New Orleans would take a shot at him as a solid backup to Brees.
Jan 25, 2012 11:01am
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Jan 25, 2012 11:13 AM
Mike Adams was inconsistent as hell in Columbus. Something is missing between the ears IMO.
Jan 25, 2012 11:13am
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Jan 25, 2012 11:15 AM
Y-Town Steelhound;1065047 wrote:I'd be perfectly ok with this. Mike Adams started his career off slowly in Columbus but has shown consistent improvement each year. The guy definitely passes the eye test and has the physical abilities to be a good tackle in this league, plus an injection of youth at RT is sorely needed. Do they see if he's available in the 2nd or would it take the 22nd pick to get him in the 1st?

Br, what are your thoughts since you are typically anti-Buckeye?
What is with the "typically anti-Buckeye" shit? Just because I'm not all over the nuts of mediocre Buckeye players (Troy Smith, AJ Hawk, Barbie Carpenter) doesn't mean I hate them.

I've previously said that OSU consistently produces good players at certain positions (O-Line, DB).

If you look back in threads I've been pimping Mike Adams as a potential target along with a couple others for the Browns at RT.
Jan 25, 2012 11:15am
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Jan 25, 2012 11:41 AM
Commander of Awesome;1065058 wrote:Mike Adams was inconsistent as hell in Columbus. Something is missing between the ears IMO.
A good coach maybe? He was a top 5 player in the country coming out of high school and dominated combines.
Jan 25, 2012 11:41am
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Jan 25, 2012 11:43 AM
Commander of Awesome;1065058 wrote:Mike Adams was inconsistent as hell in Columbus. Something is missing between the ears IMO.
This was true his first two years, but the last two he has lived up to his billing. Not to mention he was playing LT for OSU and would be a RT for the Browns.
Jan 25, 2012 11:43am
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Jan 25, 2012 11:52 AM
Commander of Awesome;1065058 wrote:Mike Adams was inconsistent as hell in Columbus. Something is missing between the ears IMO.
Not true the last 2 years.

Also, there are reports from the Senior Bowl that some scouts have Adams as a top 15 talent, which would make it virtually impossible for the Browns to get him.
Jan 25, 2012 11:52am
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Jan 25, 2012 12:24 PM
se-alum;1065120 wrote:Not true the last 2 years.
I disagree. He had mental lapses in games that would leave me scratching my head. Not sure what player/games you guys were watching. He was a good player for the Bucks but did not live up to his talent/potential. I will say he had a better senior year, esp after the the suspension, but still isn't a top 15 player. Not even close. After the season was over there were questions on wheter he was a 2nd round pick. Tells you all you need to know about the LT prospect.
Jan 25, 2012 12:24pm