IggyPride00;1336112 wrote:Tim Hasselback was just on Sportscenter for a segment talking about the 3 star rookie QB's (Luck, RGIII, Wilson) and what makes them so successful right away.

First comment out of his mouth was that they were each in situations where coaches suited the offense to their individual skills.

Next comment was, that all too often rookie QB's struggle/fail because they end up in a situation with a coach who is married to running their system even if it is not a good fit for the QB's skill set.

That does just about sum up the Shumur experience.

RGIII should thank his lucky stars we didn't end up trading up to get him, because I can't believe he would look anything like the star he does right now if he were playing here.

Mike Shanahan has a resume that would totally give him the right to be as arrogant about his system as he wanted, and yet he has overhauled alot of what he does because of what he has to work with at QB.

While I didn't like Colt much, Shumur did nothing to put him in position to be successful. I remember beating my head in the wall about his refusal to put Colt in the gun (where like Weeden he was much more comfortable).

If a 2 time Super Bowl head coach can see the wisdom of adapting your system to the talent, rather than shoving square pegs in round holes, why didn't Shurmur?

Quite frankly at this point my number 1 criteria for the next coach is that they have to be innovative and flexible. Be capable of sticking with our 4-3 scheme on defense (which we have the personnel for right now) even if you have been a lifelong 3-4 guy. On offense be willing to open it up now that we have some weapons and a QB with the arm to get them the ball.

IggyPride00;1336112 wrote:Tim Hasselback was just on Sportscenter for a segment talking about the 3 star rookie QB's (Luck, RGIII, Wilson) and what makes them so successful right away.

First comment out of his mouth was that they were each in situations where coaches suited the offense to their individual skills.

Next comment was, that all too often rookie QB's struggle/fail because they end up in a situation with a coach who is married to running their system even if it is not a good fit for the QB's skill set.

That does just about sum up the Shumur experience.

RGIII should thank his lucky stars we didn't end up trading up to get him, because I can't believe he would look anything like the star he does right now if he were playing here.

Mike Shanahan has a resume that would totally give him the right to be as arrogant about his system as he wanted, and yet he has overhauled alot of what he does because of what he has to work with at QB.

While I didn't like Colt much, Shumur did nothing to put him in position to be successful. I remember beating my head in the wall about his refusal to put Colt in the gun (where like Weeden he was much more comfortable).

If a 2 time Super Bowl head coach can see the wisdom of adapting your system to the talent, rather than shoving square pegs in round holes, why didn't Shurmur?

Quite frankly at this point my number 1 criteria for the next coach is that they have to be innovative and flexible. Be capable of sticking with our 4-3 scheme on defense (which we have the personnel for right now) even if you have been a lifelong 3-4 guy. On offense be willing to open it up now that we have some weapons and a QB with the arm to get them the ball.

Pick6;1336019 wrote:Thanks. I dont deny that Weeden airs it out more than McCoy did. However, he also checks down way more than McCoy (can we get a happy medium?). Checking down is what people bitched about constantly with him.

Wonder if there is any correlation in Weeden throwing down the field more because he has an actual deep threat in Gordon, who McCoy never had.

shook_17;1336067 wrote:saw some reports saying Mike Lombardi to Cleveland as GM is almost a done deal? SMH if that shit goes down. I might not renew my season tickets, that dude is a joke.

Pick6;1336969 wrote:Certainly not defending Hillis, but its easy for Thomas and his 10.5mil/year salary to say

royal_k;1336971 wrote:And Thomas has earned every penny of that contract. Hasn't missed a snap.

Commander of Awesome;1336973 wrote: People that don't think he's on Pace/Walter Jones level don't know what theyre talking about. Best Tackle I've ever seen.

IBleedRed;1336979 wrote:That's because you must have never seen the likes of Pace, Walter Jones, Anthony Munoz, Jonathan Ogden, Willie Roaf, etc.

I think you need to watch more football

IBleedRed;1337014 wrote:I can tell you have never seen the greatest tackles of all time play which is why you think that Joe Thomas is the best.

Commander of Awesome;1337018 wrote:Never said all time, nice fail. Just the best I've seen play. I wasn't around for Lou Groza, who I bet would be up there as well.

IBleedRed;1337022 wrote:Swing and a miss slugger, but keep your chin up... but thanks for pointing out that you only started watching football in the last 5 years since a lot of the guys I listed were playing in the last decade or so. It's not your fault though, I'm sure mommy made you do your homework on Sundays and tucked you in before MNF.

IBleedRed;1336979 wrote:That's because you must have never seen the likes of Pace, Walter Jones, Anthony Munoz, Jonathan Ogden, Willie Roaf, etc.

I think you need to watch more football

Commander of Awesome;1336341 wrote:I believe Wes also mentioned something about being displeased with Joe GOAThomas. He should be included in the lulz.