Footwedge;1240669 wrote:...Breaking: Usain Bolt interested in Browns tryout.......
absolutely would be fine with those stats. i can't remember the last time we had media rave about a qb. i know its only training camp but everybody is raving about him.BR1986FB;1240653 wrote:And in 2009 Schaub threw for 4700+ yards, 29 TD's/15 INT's...In 2010... 4300+ yards, 24 TD's/12 INT's....would anyone be "ok" with those type of stats from Weeden along with what T-Rich is gonna put up on the ground? I would.
I agree with that statement.Footwedge;1240557 wrote:I have no idea.
I tend to agree with this.wes_mantooth;1240718 wrote:I would say two series tops...for the first teamers
If Vilma's suspension is cut in half, Fujita's suspension should be fully cut.BR1986FB;1240891 wrote:Vilma may have his suspension reduced in half. If this happens, it's expected the same will be done for the others (Fujita).
This is going to be very refreshing to see this season. We might actually score some points, or at least be entertaining to watch trying.BR1986FB;1240907 wrote:Weeden taking aggressive approach in training camp...
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/51900/weeden-taking-aggressive-approach-in-camp
Watch a couple of seven-on-seven drills involving Browns quarterback Brandon Weeden and you'll leave with the same impression: He has a different mindset than Checkdown Colt.
There were times when Weeden could have played it safe and dropped it to a running back. Instead, he took a shot downfield. Some throws were successful, and others were not.
The key is that Weeden is being aggressive in his first NFL training camp. This attitude was missing from the Browns offense last season, when Colt McCoy ranked 33rd in the NFL with an average of 5.9 yards per attempt (only Jacksonville's Blaine Gabbert was worse among starting quarterbacks).
I like this mindset. I heard Weeden's quote saying he was "seeing what he can get away with". Makes sense and I think maybe his experience has allowed him this mindset. As opposed to a young guy coming in (McCoy) and being belitted by his first coaching staff. I wouldn't be surprised if that caused him to be "Checkdown Colt" because he was afraid to make a mistake/take a risk.BR1986FB;1240907 wrote:Weeden taking aggressive approach in training camp...
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/51900/weeden-taking-aggressive-approach-in-camp
Wouldn't shock me either and he's STILL doing it. If McCoy believes this to be a true "competition" (which it isn't), he should be going "balls to the wall", taking chances and slinging it all over the field, yet he still seems to be settling for checkdowns in TC. Go out in a blaze of glory, son...not with a wimper.mucalum49;1240936 wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if that caused him to be "Checkdown Colt" because he was afraid to make a mistake/take a risk.
The personnel of their defense was much worse 2 years ago than it is now. They had the toughest schedule in the league that year, and they still were very near the top 10 in points allowed. Not to mention their offense was a pile of shit.BR1986FB;1240976 wrote:Anyone still think this will be a "top 10 defense?"
Top 15-20, max. This defense is getting gashed, consistently, in TC by Weeden & Company. Yes, I know it's training camp but I also don't think we have a prolific offense, yet.like_that;1241014 wrote:The personnel of their defense was much worse 2 years ago than it is now. They had the toughest schedule in the league that year, and they still were very near the top 10 in points allowed. Not to mention their offense was a pile of shit.
So yes, if points allowed is the measuring stick, then I believe they can be a top 10 defense. When push comes to shove all what matters it the amount of points they give up.
I'd love to see that.BR1986FB;1241033 wrote:Tony Grossi‏@TonyGrossi Replacement refs are working #Browns practice today.
Maybe in yards, but not points allowed.BR1986FB;1241041 wrote:Top 15-20, max. This defense is getting gashed, consistently, in TC by Weeden & Company. Yes, I know it's training camp but I also don't think we have a prolific offense, yet.
Teams didn't HAVE to score a lot of points in the past when our putrid offense wasn't putting up any. Just like the pass defense, the "points allowed" defense will be a mirage if this offense starts scoring points.like_that;1241045 wrote:Maybe in yards, but not points allowed.
Sorry BR, but I don't buy that shit. No team when they are in the redzone thinks "hmmm well their offense really sucks ass, so we shouldn't try that hard to score a TD. Let's just settle for the FG and hope a freak play on their side doesn't happen. (i.e. the Browns unintentional approach last season, which bit them in the ass. See: every game where the offense kept the opposition in the game). Teams are always looking to score TD's (and score in general) to put the game away and rest their starters. That's always the ideal scenario for any team in any NFL game.BR1986FB;1241056 wrote:Teams didn't HAVE to score a lot of points in the past when our putrid offense wasn't putting up any. Just like the pass defense, the "points allowed" defense will be a mirage if this offense starts scoring points.
If this offense were to get up into the 25'ish points SCORED per game, I guarantee the points allowed will go up significantly when teams start having to throw on us. If the offense sucks again, the points allowed will stay low.
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I don't know what to expect out of the defense, but I suspect 15-20 in the league.BR1986FB;1241056 wrote:Teams didn't HAVE to score a lot of points in the past when our putrid offense wasn't putting up any. Just like the pass defense, the "points allowed" defense will be a mirage if this offense starts scoring points.
If this offense were to get up into the 25'ish points SCORED per game, I guarantee the points allowed will go up significantly when teams start having to throw on us. If the offense sucks again, the points allowed will stay low.
We'll see. They won't have the luxury of facing Blaine Gabbert, Kerry Collins, Charlie Whitehurst, etc this year. You're going to see that this "top 10" defense was a mirage.like_that;1241069 wrote:Sorry BR, but I don't buy that shit. No team when they are in the redzone thinks "hmmm well their offense really sucks ass, so we shouldn't try that hard to score a TD. Let's just settle for the FG and hope a freak play on their side doesn't happen. (i.e. the Browns unintentional approach last season, which bit them in the ass. See: every game where the offense kept the opposition in the game). Teams are always looking to score TD's (and score in general) to put the game away and rest their starters. That's always the ideal scenario for any team in any NFL game.
If you are confident about your prediction though, feel free to put another steak on the line
And we have a winner!IggyPride00;1241075 wrote: Last year as has been mentioned was all smoke and mirrors because opposing teams went into (to borrow a basketball term) a four corners offense to just bleed the clock out on the ground because once the Browns were down 10 it was over. Both our team and the opposing team knew we couldn't come back, so they just sat on the ball essentially.
