2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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May 21, 2012 10:50 AM
wes_mantooth;1177185 wrote:lol...way to go....

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May 21, 2012 11:33 AM
Wine And Gold;1177267 wrote:Thank you for the welcome. I'm busy a lot, but I'll try to come here on a regular basis.
Hopefully you'll bring some "gold" because God knows there's more than enough "wine-ing." ;)
May 21, 2012 7:33am
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May 21, 2012 11:55 AM
BTW...OTA's start tomorrow. Hopefully Shurmur doesn't pull a "Mangini", splitting the QB reps 50/50 and Weeden gets the bulk of the snaps.
May 21, 2012 7:55am
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May 21, 2012 11:59 AM
BR1986FB;1177293 wrote:BTW...OTA's start tomorrow. Hopefully Shurmur doesn't pull a "Mangini", splitting the QB reps 50/50 and Weeden gets the bulk of the snaps.

Hopefully he does bring some refs to these fucking practices at least.
May 21, 2012 7:59am
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May 21, 2012 12:02 PM
like_that;1177296 wrote:Hopefully he does bring some refs to these fucking practices at least.
Mangini did some things very well (discipline, cutting down on penalties, etc) but a lot of things were just flat out putrid (drafting <Veikune>, personnel decisions <old, washed up former Jets>)
May 21, 2012 8:02am
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May 21, 2012 12:23 PM
BR1986FB;1177298 wrote:Mangini did some things very well (discipline, cutting down on penalties, etc) but a lot of things were just flat out putrid (drafting <Veikune>, personnel decisions <old, washed up former Jets>)

Oh yeah, his idiocy outweighed the good things he did. The whole first draft pretty much guaranteed he was going to be fired.

I still liked his discipline as you noted. Teams with less talent have to be disciplined and can't afford to make stupid penalties or costly mistakes.
May 21, 2012 8:23am
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May 21, 2012 12:25 PM
Weren't they the least penalized team (or one of) the year he implemented real refs at the OTAs?

How do you come in after that year as a coach, and scratch an idea that worked so well? lol shurmur shurmur shurmur...
May 21, 2012 8:25am
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May 21, 2012 12:51 PM
SportsAndLady;1177310 wrote:Weren't they the least penalized team (or one of) the year he implemented real refs at the OTAs?

How do you come in after that year as a coach, and scratch an idea that worked so well? lol shurmur shurmur shurmur...
Little patty boy was just being stubborn and wanted to do things his way. God forbid you use the one good idea mangini came up with as a coach.
May 21, 2012 8:51am
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May 21, 2012 2:27 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...g-to-trade-him/

Kellen Winslow says he&#8217;s done in Tampa, Bucs trying to trade him

Posted by Michael David Smith on May 21, 2012, 10:05 AM EDT

Kellen Winslow is on the way out in Tampa Bay.

Winslow, who has played tight end for the Buccaneers for the last three seasons, said today on Sirius XM NFL Radio that the Bucs have told him they don&#8217;t want him and will help him find the right team to trade him to.

If the Bucs can&#8217;t find a trading partner, they&#8217;ll likely release him.

Winslow has been a solid player for his three seasons in Tampa Bay, never missing a game and having more than 700 receiving yards all three years. But it wouldn&#8217;t be surprising if new coach Greg Schiano didn&#8217;t see eye to eye with Winslow on a number of things, including the fact that Winslow prefers to sit out practices to rest his bad knee.

Although Winslow said the Bears were engaged in trade talks about him before the draft, nothing materialized there. Despite Winslow&#8217;s enormous athletic talent, those knee issues may make it tough for any team to clear him to play. At age 28, Winslow doesn&#8217;t have a lot left.
May 21, 2012 10:27am
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May 21, 2012 2:32 PM
Commander of Awesome;1177448 wrote:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...g-to-trade-him/

Kellen Winslow says he&#8217;s done in Tampa, Bucs trying to trade him

Posted by Michael David Smith on May 21, 2012, 10:05 AM EDT

Kellen Winslow is on the way out in Tampa Bay.

Winslow, who has played tight end for the Buccaneers for the last three seasons, said today on Sirius XM NFL Radio that the Bucs have told him they don&#8217;t want him and will help him find the right team to trade him to.

If the Bucs can&#8217;t find a trading partner, they&#8217;ll likely release him.

Winslow has been a solid player for his three seasons in Tampa Bay, never missing a game and having more than 700 receiving yards all three years. But it wouldn&#8217;t be surprising if new coach Greg Schiano didn&#8217;t see eye to eye with Winslow on a number of things, including the fact that Winslow prefers to sit out practices to rest his bad knee.

Although Winslow said the Bears were engaged in trade talks about him before the draft, nothing materialized there. Despite Winslow&#8217;s enormous athletic talent, those knee issues may make it tough for any team to clear him to play. At age 28, Winslow doesn&#8217;t have a lot left.
Looks like Winslow is running into the same deal with Schiano that he had with Mangini. Frankly, I'm surprised old Evil Knieval lasted this long in the league.
May 21, 2012 10:32am
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May 21, 2012 2:38 PM
I didn't realize Winslow was only 28 wow.
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May 21, 2012 2:40 PM
like_that;1177461 wrote:I didn't realize Winslow was only 28 wow.
He's about 68 in dog years with those knees...
May 21, 2012 10:40am
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May 21, 2012 2:42 PM
BR1986FB;1177463 wrote:He's about 68 in dog years with those knees...
Aboslutely, but I was thinking he was at least 30 years old by now. It's a shame. He had a lot of potential. The guy had a lot of passion.
May 21, 2012 10:42am
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May 21, 2012 2:51 PM
Terrible news fellow Browns fans....our new poster Wine and Gold may be a fraud. Same IP as the indian creek dude that keeps being banned.....lol
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May 21, 2012 2:51 PM
like_that;1177466 wrote:Aboslutely, but I was thinking he was at least 30 years old by now. It's a shame. He had a lot of potential. The guy had a lot of passion.
Old Butch fucking him up by putting him on that "good hands" team as a rookie against Dallas just started his downward spiral....
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May 21, 2012 2:52 PM
wes_mantooth;1177480 wrote:Terrible news fellow Browns fans....our new poster Wine and Gold may be a fraud. Same IP as the indian creek dude that keeps being banned.....lol
Wasn't that dude a Steeler fan trying to get everyone to go to his "Pittsburgh sports talk" site?
May 21, 2012 10:52am
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May 21, 2012 2:58 PM
BR1986FB;1177481 wrote:Old Butch fucking him up by putting him on that "good hands" team as a rookie against Dallas just started his downward spiral....
Yup, that was very fucking stupid, but then Winslow didn't help himself either by being an idiot.
May 21, 2012 10:58am
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May 21, 2012 3:39 PM
I am not a fraud.
May 21, 2012 11:39am
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May 21, 2012 3:48 PM
I don't even know what you guys are talking about. I just start talking for the first time and people start accusing me of being some other guy.
May 21, 2012 11:48am
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May 21, 2012 3:56 PM
Wine And Gold;1177580 wrote:I don't even know what you guys are talking about. I just start talking for the first time and people start accusing me of being some other guy.
May 21, 2012 11:56am
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May 21, 2012 3:56 PM
[h=3]Pressure point: Browns[/h]May, 16, 2012 May 16
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By Jamison Hensley | ESPN.com » NFC pressure points: West | North | South | East
» AFC pressure points: West | North | South | East

Examining who faces the most challenging season for the Cleveland Browns and why.

Hot seats in the NFL are typically reserved for head coaches and general managers. For the Browns, the heat is on team president Mike Holmgren.

The Browns added hope when they hired Holmgren as their top executive after he returned the Packers to prominence and guided the Seahawks to the Super Bowl. Rebuilding has been more of a challenge with the Browns, who have won nine games in Holmgren's two seasons. Instead of turning into a winner, the franchise has spun its wheels under Holmgren and the fan base is becoming skeptical.

This is a big year for the Holmgren regime because a potential franchise quarterback (Brandon Weeden) and star running back (Trent Richardson) were drafted in the first round to go with a top-10 defense. Holmgren has promised a "pretty good jump" for the Browns, so another four- or five-win season isn't going to cut it. It's time for Holmgren to erase past mistakes like keeping Eric Mangini around as head coach for a year and failing to trade up for quarterback Robert Griffin III in this year's draft.

Holmgren had a more immediate impact at his other stops. In Green Bay, he inherited a four-win team and led the Packers to the playoffs by his second season. In Seattle, he took over a team that hadn't been to the playoffs in 10 years and guided the Seahawks to the playoffs in his first season. The pressure is on Holmgren to show signs of a similar turnaround in Cleveland.
May 21, 2012 11:56am
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May 21, 2012 3:56 PM
Wine And Gold;1177569 wrote:I am not a fraud.

You do not call wes a liar.
May 21, 2012 11:56am
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May 21, 2012 4:04 PM
Commander of Awesome;1177589 wrote:
Reps for the Arrested Development/Funke reference...Mantooth just "blue" himself. ;)
May 21, 2012 12:04pm
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May 21, 2012 4:13 PM
shook_17;1177592 wrote:You do not call wes a liar.
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