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Jan 10, 2012 7:27 PM
shook_17;1047096 wrote:Ggimme hue jackson as OC
You're joking, this is pretty funny.
Jan 10, 2012 7:27pm
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Jan 10, 2012 7:49 PM
lhslep134;1047223 wrote:A couple of guys I wouldn't mind the Browns targeting are U of A's Juron Criner and Nick Foles. Foles has great footwork and an NFL arm and can make all the throws, and Criner has special ability, but the team was terrible this year due to 5 new offensive linemen, a terrible defense, and inability to run the football.

Bias much?
Jan 10, 2012 7:49pm
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Jan 10, 2012 9:42 PM
Blackmon's dominant performance in the Fiesta Bowl put to rest any notion he benefits from Oklahoma State's wide-open offense.
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I don't really get that.
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Jan 10, 2012 9:47 PM
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I don't really get that.
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me either
Jan 10, 2012 9:47pm
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Jan 10, 2012 9:54 PM
Commander of Awesome;1047318 wrote:You're joking, this is pretty funny.
lol did it sound like im joking? no. thanks though!
Jan 10, 2012 9:54pm
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Jan 10, 2012 11:16 PM
SportsAndLady;1047339 wrote:Bias much?
Well Nick Foles is Kiper's 3rd best QB and Criner was a 2nd team All-American last year before dealing with some on and off the field issued this year and still delivered 11 tds.

As much as it seems like bias, these were the only 2 legit prospects (besides Vassalo) on an otherwise terrible team. Watch this video on Criner you may be impressed.

[video=youtube;onSTDBS38W8][/video]
Jan 10, 2012 11:16pm
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Jan 10, 2012 11:20 PM
lhslep134;1047770 wrote:Well Nick Foles is Kiper's 3rd best QB and Criner was a 2nd team All-American last year before dealing with some on and off the field issued this year and still delivered 11 tds.

As much as it seems like bias, these were the only 2 legit prospects (besides Vassalo) on an otherwise terrible team. Watch this video on Criner you may be impressed.

[video=youtube;onSTDBS38W8][/video]

Kid I work with graduated from zona he was talking up criner so we looked up the first mock draft we could find with all rounds listed and he was in the seventh round lol I mean okay sure if we wanna take him there.
Jan 10, 2012 11:20pm
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Jan 10, 2012 11:25 PM
SportsAndLady;1047780 wrote:Kid I work with graduated from zona he was talking up criner so we looked up the first mock draft we could find with all rounds listed and he was in the seventh round lol I mean okay sure if we wanna take him there.
Hey, all I said was we should target them, not necessarily which round lol. I think ESPN had him as their #13 WR, which should dictate 5th-undrafted status? All I know is he has big time leaping/catching ability, and at the very least is worth a look.
Jan 10, 2012 11:25pm
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Jan 10, 2012 11:26 PM
lhslep134;1047789 wrote:Hey, all I said was we should target them, not necessarily which round lol. I think ESPN had him as their #13 WR, which should dictate 5th-undrafted status? All I know is he has big time leaping/catching ability, and at the very least is worth a look.

Fair enough
Jan 10, 2012 11:26pm
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Jan 10, 2012 11:33 PM
Most all of the mock drafts have Kahlil going either 2nd or 3rd.
Jan 10, 2012 11:33pm
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Jan 11, 2012 4:56 AM
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ESPN's Adam Schefter reports # Browns DB coach Jerome Henderson leaving
for Dallas to reunite with DC Rob Ryan. Players liked Henderson.
Jan 11, 2012 4:56am
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Jan 11, 2012 8:39 AM
Hmmmm....interesting....

[LEFT]QBs make WRS; WRs do not make QBs
All of which brings us to the elephant in the room in Atlanta's 2011 post-mortem of pigskin: Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan simply can't get it done.

He's consistently had trouble getting the ball downfield throughout his career, and has now played poorly in three straight playoff games. In fact, Ryan has statistically stagnated somewhere well below mediocre in his three postseason games, all losses: 72.8 rating in the 2008 playoffs; 69.0 rating in the 2010 playoffs; and 71.1 rating here in the 2011 playoffs.

It doesn't matter how many so-called "weapons" you put around a quarterback. The Shiny Hood Ornament Man Law tells us that quarterbacks make wide receivers, not the other way around. And right now we have four years of evidence saying that Ryan is not good enough to make his receivers better.

In either case, executives and coaches who are unaware of the Shiny Hood Ornament Man Law are like physicists are unaware of Newton's Laws of Motion. They have no business being in the field and need to find another line of work.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/kerry_byrne/01/10/julio.jones.trade/index.html#ixzz1j9mZCXgt
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Jan 11, 2012 8:42 AM
BR1986FB;1047892 wrote:ScottPetrak Scott Petrak
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports # Browns DB coach Jerome Henderson leaving
for Dallas to reunite with DC Rob Ryan. Players liked Henderson.

That stinks.
Jan 11, 2012 8:42am
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Jan 11, 2012 8:50 AM
BR1986FB;1047989 wrote:Hmmmm....interesting....

[LEFT]QBs make WRS; WRs do not make QBs
All of which brings us to the elephant in the room in Atlanta's 2011 post-mortem of pigskin: Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan simply can't get it done.

He's consistently had trouble getting the ball downfield throughout his career, and has now played poorly in three straight playoff games. In fact, Ryan has statistically stagnated somewhere well below mediocre in his three postseason games, all losses: 72.8 rating in the 2008 playoffs; 69.0 rating in the 2010 playoffs; and 71.1 rating here in the 2011 playoffs.

It doesn't matter how many so-called "weapons" you put around a quarterback. The Shiny Hood Ornament Man Law tells us that quarterbacks make wide receivers, not the other way around. And right now we have four years of evidence saying that Ryan is not good enough to make his receivers better.

In either case, executives and coaches who are unaware of the Shiny Hood Ornament Man Law are like physicists are unaware of Newton's Laws of Motion. They have no business being in the field and need to find another line of work.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/kerry_byrne/01/10/julio.jones.trade/index.html#ixzz1j9mZCXgt
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He's much better than I ever thought he'd be, but lot living up to expectations after having decent seasons. He's a completely different QB away from the home dome.
Jan 11, 2012 8:50am
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Jan 11, 2012 10:26 AM
Browns should give Raheem Morris a call to replace Henderson
Jan 11, 2012 10:26am
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Jan 11, 2012 12:23 PM
lhslep134;1047789 wrote:Hey, all I said was we should target them, not necessarily which round lol. I think ESPN had him as their #13 WR, which should dictate 5th-undrafted status? All I know is he has big time leaping/catching ability, and at the very least is worth a look.
Pretty impressive video. Showed good hands, good burst, and the ability to go up and fight for the ball. There's no way he goes undrafted. I'd say no later than the 5th round, unless his issues you spoke of scare teams away. The Browns need play makers. They should take a look at this guy.
Jan 11, 2012 12:23pm
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Jan 11, 2012 1:53 PM
I would def be happy if we somehow got Kolb before the draft. That would give Heckert/Holmgren many options heading into the draft imo.
Jan 11, 2012 1:53pm
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Jan 11, 2012 1:56 PM
I went scouting on the AZ forums and they seem to think KK has a concussion problem and one away from retirement.
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Jan 11, 2012 1:58 PM
LOL...When did McCoy play 'at a high level" (first article) this past season? He impressed me in 2010 but, outside of the game winning drive vs Miami, he was just "meh."
Jan 11, 2012 1:58pm
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Jan 11, 2012 2:00 PM
Commander of Awesome;1048299 wrote:I went scouting on the AZ forums and they seem to think KK has a concussion problem and one away from retirement.
Perfect fit for the Browns. Sign him! He could be Holmgren's Jeremiah Pharms. :rolleyes:
Jan 11, 2012 2:00pm
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Jan 11, 2012 2:02 PM
BR1986FB;1048302 wrote:LOL...When did McCoy play 'at a high level" (first article) this past season? He impressed me in 2010 but, outside of the game winning drive vs Miami, he was just "meh."
Who would you take Flynn or Kolb?
Jan 11, 2012 2:02pm
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Jan 11, 2012 2:04 PM
like_that;1048308 wrote:Who would you take Flynn or Kolb?
Of those two I see more upside in Flynn.
Jan 11, 2012 2:04pm