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Apr 22, 2012 4:03 PM
Commander of Awesome;1150037 wrote:I do not think Davi lasts until the second round.

New Mock:
http://football.realgm.com/src_feature/438/20120421/the_penultimate_mock/
Guarantee Weeden won't last to round 3 and highly doubt Jonathan Martin makes it to 55
Apr 22, 2012 4:03pm
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BR1986FB

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Apr 22, 2012 5:08 PM
God I'll be glad when all of this draft talk crap is over. Just got an XM radio so I imagine I'll be hearing a ton of it this week on NFL Radio during my commute.
Apr 22, 2012 5:08pm
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Apr 22, 2012 6:05 PM
I'm just excited for Thursday to get here. The draft always brings new topics of conversation, which keeps things fresh around here (something difficult to do when a thread is graced by Miyagi's stench).
Apr 22, 2012 6:05pm
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Apr 22, 2012 6:28 PM
What about the LB Zach Brown? How long is he projected to last? I would like to get a LB like him...has great speed, good size and would start right away. I'd think about taking him with the 2nd or 3rd pick. If you take him with your 2nd pick, you can still get a solid wr with your pick in the 2nd round.
Apr 22, 2012 6:28pm
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Apr 22, 2012 6:48 PM
zach24oz;1150167 wrote:What about the LB Zach Brown? How long is he projected to last? I would like to get a LB like him...has great speed, good size and would start right away. I'd think about taking him with the 2nd or 3rd pick. If you take him with your 2nd pick, you can still get a solid wr with your pick in the 2nd round.
He apparently has some character red flags, so his stock is likely mid-2nd at this point.

I'd love him at 37 though.
Apr 22, 2012 6:48pm
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Apr 22, 2012 6:59 PM
BR1986FB;1150132 wrote:God I'll be glad when all of this draft talk crap is over. Just got an XM radio so I imagine I'll be hearing a ton of it this week on NFL Radio during my commute.
Don't get too excited. The tribe used their number one draft choices on Pomeranz and White. They're just prospects you know.

My guess is that we will trade TRich and Floyd for a proven guy like Jay Losman.
Apr 22, 2012 6:59pm
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Apr 22, 2012 8:00 PM
Brandon Weeden - QB - Player

After speaking with NFL executives, The Sideline View's Adam Caplan gets the "sense" that the Browns will target Oklahoma State QB Brandon Weeden at No. 37 rather than No. 22 overall.

Caplan confirms Cleveland has "spent a lot of time" on Weeden, including an April 2 visit to club headquarters. There is little doubt that the Browns are interested in drafting him, but it doesn't sound like they've deemed Weeden worthy of a first-round pick. Look for the Browns to select Trent Richardson at No. 4, the best receiver available at No. 22, and perhaps Weeden at 37.
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Thank goodness we're not using one of our top 2 picks at least. Close your eyes, guys, I know some of you hate any mention of his name.
Apr 22, 2012 8:00pm
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Apr 22, 2012 8:19 PM
Footwedge;1150199 wrote:Don't get too excited. The tribe used their number one draft choices on Pomeranz and White. They're just prospects you know.

My guess is that we will trade TRich and Floyd for a proven guy like Jay Losman.
You're never going to let that go are you?
Apr 22, 2012 8:19pm
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Footwedge

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Apr 22, 2012 8:22 PM
grodt;1150261 wrote:You're never going to let that go are you?
I let it go every single day. But then the same 2 assholes have to take their pot shots at me....every day. I bever start any trouble...just finish it.
Apr 22, 2012 8:22pm
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Apr 22, 2012 8:23 PM
Footwedge;1150267 wrote:I let it go every single day. But then the same 2 assholes have to take their pot shots at me....every day. I bever start any trouble...just finish it.
Dude you brought it up, unprovoked, on a Browns thread.
Apr 22, 2012 8:23pm
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Apr 22, 2012 8:23 PM
Footwedge;1150267 wrote:I let it go every single day. But then the same 2 assholes have to take their pot shots at me....every day. I bever start any trouble...just finish it.
You're pretty high on yourself if you think you've finished anything... You continue to dig your hole even deeper. Also, I don't bring that garbage into other threads like you just did a few posts ago.

Cry some more.
Apr 22, 2012 8:23pm
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Apr 22, 2012 8:24 PM
grodt;1150271 wrote:Dude you brought it up, unprovoked, on a Browns thread.
Watch it grodt, he'll start bad mouthing you now.
Apr 22, 2012 8:24pm
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Apr 22, 2012 8:32 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1150244 wrote:Thank goodness we're not using one of our top 2 picks at least. Close your eyes, guys, I know some of you hate any mention of his name.
the thing with weeden is that he is not a noticeable upgrade from colt mccoy (and he's older which makes it even worse) whereas selections at positions of rb, wr, ot, olb or de would be significant additions to the team's talent base going forward. browns just can't afford to waste even a third round pick on a qb just because they have so many holes elsewhere
Apr 22, 2012 8:32pm
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Apr 22, 2012 8:57 PM
Footwedge;1150267 wrote:I let it go every single day. But then the same 2 ****s have to take their pot shots at me....every day. I bever start any trouble...just finish it.
ahh shit. they must call you the closer! boom
Apr 22, 2012 8:57pm
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Apr 22, 2012 8:59 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1150158 wrote: (something difficult to do when a thread is graced by Miyagi's stench).
this quote is interesting considering we pretty much agree on everything in this thread and on the high school thread
Apr 22, 2012 8:59pm
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Apr 22, 2012 9:02 PM
dazedconfused;1150281 wrote:the thing with weeden is that he is not a noticeable upgrade from colt mccoy (and he's older which makes it even worse) whereas selections at positions of rb, wr, ot, olb or de would be significant additions to the team's talent base going forward. browns just can't afford to waste even a third round pick on a qb just because they have so many holes elsewhere
i think he is an upgrade. BUT now im leaning to grabbing another starter either defense or offense whatever they choose and IF THEY want weeden, they can trade back up. i still like weeden but after 37.
Apr 22, 2012 9:02pm
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Apr 22, 2012 9:08 PM
how pissed are you gonna be if what Peter King wrote comes to fruition? (our 2nd and 3rd to the Pats for #27 and we pick Weedon)

edit. I would not be happy
Apr 22, 2012 9:08pm
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Apr 22, 2012 9:09 PM
shook_17;1150308 wrote:i think he is an upgrade. BUT now im leaning to grabbing another starter either defense or offense whatever they choose and IF THEY want weeden, they can trade back up. i still like weeden but after 37.
He can be an upgrade, but not a noticeable upgrade. Key word: noticeable. It would be ok if he was a young rookie, because he would have more upside. I don't see how much upside a 29 year old QB can have. He sure as hell isn't worth the pick if he isn't a significant upgrade.

Some of you guys are way too infatuated with his arm strength. If arm strength was any indicator of being a great QB, DA would still be starting for the Browns.
Apr 22, 2012 9:09pm
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Apr 22, 2012 9:10 PM
Mr Miyagi;1150316 wrote:how pissed are you gonna be if what Peter King wrote comes to fruition? (our 2nd and 3rd to the Pats for #27 and we pick Weedon)
Very pissed, because 1. I don't want Weeden, and 2. I am getting sick of the Pats getting these ridiculous steals for deals.
Apr 22, 2012 9:10pm
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Apr 22, 2012 9:11 PM
Footwedge;1150199 wrote:Don't get too excited. The tribe used their number one draft choices on Pomeranz and White. They're just prospects you know.

My guess is that we will trade TRich and Floyd for a proven guy like Jay Losman.
[video]www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHmenx1rQAQ#t=0m17s[/video]
Apr 22, 2012 9:11pm
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Apr 22, 2012 9:15 PM
like_that;1150318 wrote:Very pissed, because 1. I don't want Weeden, and 2. I am getting sick of the Pats getting these ridiculous steals for deals.
+ 1
Apr 22, 2012 9:15pm
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Apr 22, 2012 9:30 PM
like_that;1150318 wrote:Very pissed, because 1. I don't want Weeden, and 2. I am getting sick of the Pats getting these ridiculous steals for deals.
i don't get how the pats do it every year. SMH
Apr 22, 2012 9:30pm
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Apr 22, 2012 10:01 PM
Mr Miyagi;1150306 wrote:this quote is interesting considering we pretty much agree on everything in this thread and on the high school thread
No worries, Miyagi. It has nothing to do with your positions on various topics of interest. It has everything to do with the smell produced when using fresh cat in your won ton soup...
Apr 22, 2012 10:01pm
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Apr 23, 2012 5:20 AM
like_that;1150317 wrote:He can be an upgrade, but not a noticeable upgrade. Key word: noticeable. It would be ok if he was a young rookie, because he would have more upside. I don't see how much upside a 29 year old QB can have. He sure as hell isn't worth the pick if he isn't a significant upgrade.

Some of you guys are way too infatuated with his arm strength. If arm strength was any indicator of being a great QB, DA would still be starting for the Browns.
Also a slight difference in Weeden & DA's completion % differential, almost 20%.
Apr 23, 2012 5:20am
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Apr 23, 2012 6:20 AM
BR1986FB;1150437 wrote:Also a slight difference in Weeden & DA's completion % differential, almost 20%.
I don't recall Weeden playing in the NFL yet...
Apr 23, 2012 6:20am