That last part of your argument is so flawed. You are blaming him for having weapons?bases_loaded;1044670 wrote:The Broncos beat the Steelers because Ike Taylor played the worst game a CB has ever played. He got abused by megatron Jr.
Is RGIII a can't miss QB? Or is he just the second best QB in the draft? Go get a Matt Flynn or Jason Campbell and draft play makers. RG3 is a track guy who had WR that could run past defenses. That's not happening in the NFL.
So, what if we draft RGIII and that track guy lol?bases_loaded;1044670 wrote:The Broncos beat the Steelers because Ike Taylor played the worst game a CB has ever played. He got abused by megatron Jr.
Is RGIII a can't miss QB? Or is he just the second best QB in the draft? Go get a Matt Flynn or Jason Campbell and draft play makers. RG3 is a track guy who had WR that could run past defenses. That's not happening in the NFL.
Campbell? Really? At least Flynn has SOME upside. Campbell would be a waste of time.bases_loaded;1044670 wrote:Go get a Matt Flynn or Jason Campbell and draft play makers.
BR1986FB;1044678 wrote:Campbell? Really? At least Flynn has SOME upside. Campbell would be a waste of time.
DeyDurkie5;1044672 wrote:That last part of your argument is so flawed. You are blaming him for having weapons?
I think we've seen enough "stopgaps" playing for the Browns. If they are going to change QB's they need to either a) bite the bullet and use a 1st rounder or b) trade for or sign Flynn in FA. Enough of the dicking around trying to "mold" QB's.bases_loaded;1044707 wrote:Campbell would be a stop gap and then you take a guy like kellen Moore in 4th
Commander of Awesome;1044674 wrote:I disagree that Ike played the worst, Eric Wright against the Ratbirds last season was right on par if not worse.
I know you've been warming to the idea of Flynn, I'm not sold on him based on a few solid performances but I get the feeling that's where the front office is heading.BR1986FB;1044715 wrote:I think we've seen enough "stopgaps" playing for the Browns. If they are going to change QB's they need to either a) bite the bullet and use a 1st rounder or b) trade for or sign Flynn in FA. Enough of the dicking around trying to "mold" QB's.
I'd love for them to take RG3 because I like the potential of his explosive playmaking ability. His ability to move could cause issues for defenses in the division. BUT....I just don't see Heckert grabbing this guy because Holmgren/Shurmur think their WCO is "the way" to go. I can't see them being flexible like a John Fox.ytownfootball;1044721 wrote:I know you've been warming to the idea of Flynn, I'm not sold on him based on a few solid performances but I get the feeling that's where the front office is heading.
Heckert was around when Andy Reid brought in Donovan McNabb who was FAR from a WCO type QB. I just don't see them doing this with Shurmur. Unless RG3 wows them at the Combine and shows he can play under center I just think they will believe it (trying to convert a shotgun QB to WCO...hasn't been a glowing success with McCoy, so far) is too risky.ytownfootball;1044737 wrote:I'm not sure I understand what about RGIII screams "I can't run a WCO" lol Sure he has other skill but what says he can't do what's required in that system?
Wright gave up 3 TDs against the Ratbirds. I'll take the yards over 3 TDs.bases_loaded;1044717 wrote:Ike gave up 200 yards receiving plus had 2 or 3 flags
He's listed as 6'2'' 220 and while he is very, very fast, I think it's hard to say his strength is scrambling. The guy can throw the ball extremely well.bases_loaded;1044712 wrote:Im not blaming him, just tired of seeing Big 12 qbs with amazing stats flop in the league. I don't think a 6' 180 lbs qb that's strength is scrambling has a very good shelf life in the afc north
That's a pretty solid analysis. I'd move QB down to 4 and swap OLB and CB, but other than that I agree with everything listed. It's sad how many needs this team still has.BR1986FB;1044643 wrote:http://walterfootball.com/offseason2012cle.php
If you're referring to RG3, he can make all of the throws and throw a good deep ball.bases_loaded;1044848 wrote:Does he throw a good deep ball or does he make all the throws. AT 4 he better do the latter.
thisbases_loaded;1044719 wrote:Get some weapons and a serviceable QB. Look at Houston.