lhslep134;1122273 wrote:The problem for the Browns isn't ignorance of the QB need on draft day, it's the unavailability of someone worth the pick.

Lets look at the last few drafts and QBs the Browns did not reach for (in 1st or 2nd round):

2009: Mark Sanchez (traded down), Josh Freeman
2010: Tim Tebow, Jimmy Clausen
2011: Jake Locker, Christian Ponder, Blaine Gabbert, Colin Kaepernick, Andy Dalton

Excuse me, Iggy, but I fail to see a franchise QB in the bunch (jury is out on the 2011 guys but I don't see one outside Dalton). We made our play for a franchise QB this offseason and it wasn't accepted.

What have the Browns been doing instead? How about filling important holes on our team. Alex Mack, Joe Haden, Phil Taylor, Jabaal Sheard, Greg Little, and TJ Ward are guys we took instead of the players I listed above and figure to be keys to our future success.


Excuse me for not caring that the FO hasn't put more faith into overhyped QBs. You can't call McCoy an overhyped QB if we drafted him in the 3rd round.

like_that;1122277 wrote:They should have traded 4 first round picks to get their QB!

/desperatefans

Commander of Awesome;1122285 wrote:We should trade Ben GOATson for Aaron Rodgers and Calvin Johnson. Both teams would be willing to trade both as long as GOATson agreed to play 8 games for each team.

wes_mantooth;1122280 wrote:And haden....and Joe Thomas

like_that;1122277 wrote:They should have traded 4 first round picks to get their QB!

/desperatefans

BR1986FB;1122156 wrote:As far as the QB goes, I think they thought RG3 was a lock and had no backup plan. I may be wrong on that but it's sure as Hell what it looks like.

BR1986FB;1122437 wrote:Now I'd like this....

http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=2&cid=1169665&nid=5775200&fhn

Commander of Awesome;1122455 wrote:Would like that signing, doubt Heckert gets it done though.

Commander of Awesome;1122455 wrote:Would like that signing, doubt Heckert gets it done though.

Writerbuckeye;1122474 wrote:Remember: the Browns are going to have to retain three pretty good ones in the next several years so you have to factor that into any contract you offer.

Writerbuckeye;1122474 wrote:I'd love that signing, but I'm going to bet the price will get into the stupid category very fast. Decent defensive linemen never come cheap. Remember: the Browns are going to have to retain three pretty good ones in the next several years so you have to factor that into any contract you offer.

Also, how come Cincy isn't retaining more of these players? Or maybe they're offering and getting turned down and we just aren't hearing about it.

IggyPride00;1122479 wrote:It could actually happen because it is defense.

It is only the offensive side of the ball they are interested in neglecting.

Commander of Awesome;1122480 wrote:Shread, Taylor,...who else?

zach24oz;1122501 wrote:The Houston Texans traded Demeco Ryans to the Eagles for a 4th round pick. Don't know if anyone has seen that or not...Sounds like a really good deal for the Eagles. Too bad the Browns can't pull off anything like this.

IggyPride00;1122510 wrote:Anyone else think that serious consideration should be given to drafting Weeden at 22?

I think he is ready to play now, and physically has the size/arm to play the position at a high level in the NFL for a while.

He might be 28 already, but that is not ancient in QB years. Aaron Rodgers is that age, and everyone considers the Packers set at QB for the next decade.

We don't know what he will become, but if we could get 6-7 years of high level play out of him that would be enough for me to say it's worth the risk.

We know McCoy/Wallace are not a long term solution, so to go through the year with them is wasting another year. It's time to bite the bullet and draft a QB that can play now so at least we feel like we are building towards something for once instead of treading water waiting until next year's draft.