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2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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Mar 21, 2012 1:23 AM
lhslep134;1122516 wrote:What makes you think Weeden can play in the NFL at a high level? Is it all of the other highly successful Big 12 QBs currently in the NFL?

And by others, I mean 0.
He is 28, so he can play.
Mar 20, 2012 9:23pm
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Mar 21, 2012 1:24 AM
like_that;1122520 wrote:He is 28, so he can play.
I hope this is sarcasm.
Mar 20, 2012 9:24pm
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Mar 21, 2012 1:30 AM
Commander of Awesome;1122521 wrote:I hope this is sarcasm.
Look above lhslep's post. Nice observation fail.
Mar 20, 2012 9:30pm
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Mar 21, 2012 1:33 AM
like_that;1122529 wrote:Look above lhslep's post. Nice observation fail.
Nope hard to tell sarcasm on the internet without tags. Could easily be mistaken as your legit argument, considering the QQing going on in this thread.
Mar 20, 2012 9:33pm
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Mar 21, 2012 1:53 AM
IggyPride00;1122510 wrote:Anyone else think that serious consideration should be given to drafting Weeden at 22?

I think he is ready to play now, and physically has the size/arm to play the position at a high level in the NFL for a while.

He might be 28 already, but that is not ancient in QB years. Aaron Rodgers is that age, and everyone considers the Packers set at QB for the next decade.

We don't know what he will become, but if we could get 6-7 years of high level play out of him that would be enough for me to say it's worth the risk.

We know McCoy/Wallace are not a long term solution, so to go through the year with them is wasting another year. It's time to bite the bullet and draft a QB that can play now so at least we feel like we are building towards something for once instead of treading water waiting until next year's draft.
brandon weedon is better than aaron rodgers. I agree with everything you said.
Mar 20, 2012 9:53pm
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Mar 21, 2012 1:55 AM
DeyDurkie5;1122547 wrote:brandon weedon is better than aaron rodgers. I agree with everything you said.
Just think of the Glory in the DawgPound and you chanting "WEED" "WEED" "WEED"
Mar 20, 2012 9:55pm
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Mar 21, 2012 1:57 AM
Commander of Awesome;1122499 wrote:Yeah Rubin signed a 6 yr deal I believe last off season.
I'm pretty sure it was 4, meaning 2014 would be the last year of his contract.
Mar 20, 2012 9:57pm
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Mar 21, 2012 2:09 AM
zach24oz;1122501 wrote:The Houston Texans traded Demeco Ryans to the Eagles for a 4th round pick. Don't know if anyone has seen that or not...Sounds like a really good deal for the Eagles. Too bad the Browns can't pull off anything like this.
thats a steal.
Mar 20, 2012 10:09pm
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Mar 21, 2012 2:16 AM
Weeden would be a 1000x better pick than Tannefail.
Mar 20, 2012 10:16pm
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Mar 21, 2012 2:58 AM
I wouldnt take either one with my first 3 picks...they need to get guys who can come in and play right now and can help the team out.
Mar 20, 2012 10:58pm
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Mar 21, 2012 3:21 AM
Mulva;1122553 wrote:I'm pretty sure it was 4, meaning 2014 would be the last year of his contract.
I wasn't sure, but if that's true...it means all 3 will have contracts coming due about the same time. It's going to be very costly to retain all three (assuming Taylor progresses and becomes at least as good as Rubin).
Mar 20, 2012 11:21pm
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Mar 21, 2012 3:40 AM
Early Doucet resigned with Arizona today, so another WR goes off the board.
Mar 20, 2012 11:40pm
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Mar 21, 2012 4:42 AM
Skyhook79;1122550 wrote:Just think of the Glory in the DawgPound and you chanting "WEED" "WEED" "WEED"

Mar 21, 2012 12:42am
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Mar 21, 2012 8:59 AM
Cleveland Browns reportedly pursuing free agent LB Manny Lawson http://dlvr.it/1LMZq5
Mar 21, 2012 4:59am
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Mar 21, 2012 9:04 AM
like_that;1122513 wrote:No. Just because he is 28, doesn't mean he is ready to play in the NFL.
If Weeden is 22-23 years old he's a top 10 pick. Most scouts have him as the most "NFL ready" QB in this draft outside of Luck. He gets kicked in the dick because he's 28. I'd have more confidence in him starting as a rookie over Tannehill. I think Tannehill will also be fine but he's going to need to sit a year and learn from a good WCO QB like a Hasselbeck.
Mar 21, 2012 5:04am
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Mar 21, 2012 9:09 AM
Writerbuckeye;1122631 wrote:I wasn't sure, but if that's true...it means all 3 will have contracts coming due about the same time. It's going to be very costly to retain all three (assuming Taylor progresses and becomes at least as good as Rubin).
From Heckert's recent pattern (if he sticks around), I'm not too worried about this. Looks like he's using the John Hart/mid-09's Cleveland Indians "model" by re-signing guys to extensions BEFORE their contracts are up (see Joe Thomas, Gocong, Rubin). He's locking up this "core" talent, long-term. Alex Mack is likely to be next and I'd imagine they will have a ton of cap space next year.
Mar 21, 2012 5:09am
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Mar 21, 2012 9:15 AM
Could be just posturing but it sounds like the Vikes may prefer Mo Claiborne over Matt Kalil at #3. If Kalil is on the board at 4, what do you do? I know that 4 is WAY too high to grab a RT but damn that would be tempting. Even IF Lauvao stays at RG, a player of Kalil's ilk should definitely help upgrade Lauvao's play.
Mar 21, 2012 5:15am
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Mar 21, 2012 11:04 AM
I will never bitch about spending first rounders on o/d line.
Mar 21, 2012 7:04am
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Mar 21, 2012 11:10 AM
Commander of Awesome;1122728 wrote:I will never bitch about spending first rounders on o/d line.
Same. If Heckert made decisions based on whether the fan base will cry or not, he would be a horrible GM. I would definitely take Kalil.
Mar 21, 2012 7:10am
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Mar 21, 2012 11:13 AM
Kalil sets up the Browns for the best oline in the league and a pwn league for the next 10 yrs. If a RB/QB can't be productive behind that line than they need to GTFO.
Mar 21, 2012 7:13am
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Mar 21, 2012 11:29 AM
Listening to Pluto's podcast from yesterday, he's really complaining about lack of Browns moves and his/MKC's lack of browns insight. Says they haven't been able to get a single good rumor and says its the agents dealing exclusively with the agents etc...

He thinks we should go after demetrius bell to play RT.
Mar 21, 2012 7:29am
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Mar 21, 2012 11:50 AM
Browns have offered a 5th for Tebow....
Mar 21, 2012 7:50am
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Mar 21, 2012 11:58 AM
Browns still in discussions with the Texans regarding acquiring Tate. If something happens it will likely be draft day.

Also are expressing interest in Rams WR Mark Clayton.

And in the "at least they are doing their due diligence department", they have reached out to the Colts regarding acquiring the #1 overall pick in the draft within the last 10 days. Colts said "no thanks." So much for Holmgren's "confidence boost" in McCoy.
Mar 21, 2012 7:58am
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Mar 21, 2012 11:59 AM
BR1986FB;1122742 wrote:Browns have offered a 5th for Tebow....
This the same we signed Painter stunt?
Mar 21, 2012 7:59am
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Mar 21, 2012 12:00 PM
BR1986FB;1122742 wrote:Browns have offered a 5th for Tebow....
WTF? What's wrong with Watson and Moore?
Mar 21, 2012 8:00am