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Dec 31, 2011 8:09 PM
hoops23;1032804 wrote:Why did Buford shoot a 3? Terrible decisions plagued this team all game.

This team is not capable of winning a national title.
because in big moments he chokes and makes bad decisions.
Dec 31, 2011 8:09pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:09 PM
Midstate01;1032806 wrote:We will win the game in cbus by 25. Maybe easily.
You think IU got some home cookin? Or are you sayin OSU just plays that much better at home
Dec 31, 2011 8:09pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:11 PM
tyranny;1032807 wrote:How much money did the officials have on IU to cover? Over/Under 10k?
They called it just like they call MAC games when they work those (this crew works almost all B1G/MAC, few others), which is foul crazy. Since B1G teams beat the shit out of each other, it gets ugly fast.
Dec 31, 2011 8:11pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:11 PM
That loss is on Matta--no way Thompson should've been in there at the end...period.
Dec 31, 2011 8:11pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:11 PM
Hb31187;1032810 wrote:You think IU got some home cookin?

think? LOL
Dec 31, 2011 8:11pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:12 PM
wes_mantooth;1032809 wrote:because in big moments he chokes and makes bad decisions.
Damn, I hate it when you're right--HUGE choke by a senior!!!
Dec 31, 2011 8:12pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:12 PM
Big games bring out the best in some players, they seem to bring out the worst in Willy

Craft played a bad game, Thomas couldn't get it going. Alot of unforced turnovers, overall a bad game by the Bucks
Dec 31, 2011 8:12pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:12 PM
tyranny;1032814 wrote:think? LOL
The game was called the same way on both ends. Very tightly, it wasnt like IU had no calls against them. It was equally shitty
Dec 31, 2011 8:12pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:12 PM
OSU let the refs get to them, the really good teams can ignore/play thru the refs. 4 straight terrible possessions lost the game for the Bucks not the refs.
Sully didn't touch the ball the last 4 times.
Dec 31, 2011 8:12pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:12 PM
I'm not one to bitch about the officiating but there's no way those guys should have a job tomorrow. Horrible calls on both sides.
Dec 31, 2011 8:12pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:12 PM
Def lopsided, but I think that is because OSU is a physical team...and like TS said...these mac officials have a quick trigger
Dec 31, 2011 8:12pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:13 PM
Hb31187;1032818 wrote:The game was called the same way on both ends.
Didn't watch the 1st half?
GoPens;1032820 wrote:I'm not one to bitch about the officiating but there's no way those guys should have a job tomorrow. Horrible calls on both sides.
Pretty much this. There's no way SOMETHING wasn't at play here. I think everyone can agree this isn't a crew that deserves to ref at this level.
Dec 31, 2011 8:13pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:13 PM
KR1245;1032817 wrote:Big games bring out the best in some players, they seem to bring out the worst in Willy

Craft played a bad game, Thomas couldn't get it going. Alot of unforced turnovers, overall a bad game by the Bucks
Better now than later---everyone was outplayed, and Matta was outcoached....on to the next game
Dec 31, 2011 8:13pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:14 PM
Skyhook79;1032819 wrote:OSU let the refs get to them, the really good teams can ignore/play thru the refs. 4 straight terrible possessions lost the game for the Bucks not the refs.
Sully didn't touch the ball the last 4 times.
Agreed 100%

The fact that Sully never touched the ball, especially when OSU was up 1 on consecutive trips was mind boggling.
Dec 31, 2011 8:14pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:16 PM
Ive never been so mad watching a game. Unreal. Officiating was terrible. Then defense late(because of officiating) was poor. Ah!!!!
Dec 31, 2011 8:16pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:17 PM
This team isn't as good as last years, no one can create their own shot consitently and we don't have knock down shooters like last year so our floor spacing sucks. Teams are preventing Sully from getting the ball and they can do that because there is no Diebler on the same side of the floor as him this year. When our offense doesn't go through Sully we are an average team on offense.
Dec 31, 2011 8:17pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:17 PM
hoops23;1032824 wrote:Agreed 100%

The fact that Sully never touched the ball, especially when OSU was up 1 on consecutive trips was mind boggling.
yeah, it should pretty much a rule that he should touch the ball on every half court possession
Dec 31, 2011 8:17pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:18 PM
Happy fucking New Year, Laley :p
Dec 31, 2011 8:18pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:19 PM
Hopefully OSU learns from this, because if they want to win the national championship, there will be a moment in the NCAA tourney where they will HAVE to overcome adversity.

They let the refs get in their head and stopped playing defense for a good stretch in the second half. You simply can not do that. IU honestly had no business winning this game, but OSU let them hang around.

Somebody has to develop a killer instinct on this team, though I'm not sure who.

IMO, Matta really needs to try and work LaQuinton Ross in. This team needs more scoring and he's also a good sized player at 6'8''..
Dec 31, 2011 8:19pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:19 PM
Classyposter58;1032775 wrote:Dickie V?
Probably on twitter. He tweets during games a lot.
Olaspookado
Wow...You would have been much closer had you called Oladipshit.
Dec 31, 2011 8:19pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:20 PM
vball10set;1032830 wrote:Happy fucking New Year, Laley :p
This. If he didnt see this one too, he should just stop watching all together. Haha.
Dec 31, 2011 8:20pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:20 PM
I honestly dont think its that bad of a loss, IU is a solid solid team. But I agree with hoops that they need someone with a killer instinct. Thomas has it...but hes too wildly inconsistent
Dec 31, 2011 8:20pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:21 PM
vball10set;1032813 wrote:That loss is on Matta--no way Thompson should've been in there at the end...period.
My complaint isn't necessarily that Thompson was in there, it's more that Smith wasn't. He had 12/6/3 today, his corner 3 ball was there, and he plays very solid D on the wing. Don't really get why he wasn't out there.

Other random thoughts... Thomas is a rhythm player. Not surprised he couldn't get it going with his foul trouble.

I didn't have any trouble with the shot Buford took at the end. IU did a good job of contesting it, but that's a play a lot of teams run in situations like that and Will is very good at the catch and shoot moving to his left.

Would definitely rather see Craft score 6 points and control the offense than score 16 but be out of control half of the time and finish with 6 turnovers.

And finally, the officials were absolutely terrible. The 2nd half was equally bad both ways (I thought Zeller's 5th foul was a pretty terrible call), but the 1st half was OSU just getting bent over. But still had a chance to win it at the end and couldn't close it out.

Don't have to wait too long for a rematch though, Hoosiers come to Columbus on the 15th.
Dec 31, 2011 8:21pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:23 PM
robj55;1032828 wrote:This team isn't as good as last years, no one can create their own shot consitently and we don't have knock down shooters like last year so our floor spacing sucks. Teams are preventing Sully from getting the ball and they can do that because there is no Diebler on the same side of the floor as him this year. When our offense doesn't go through Sully we are an average team on offense.
Eh IDK you are right about the 3pt shooting. IU is a very,very good team at Home. The Bucks shot 49% for the game, not great but not bad.
What is bad for this game is when Sully only gets 5 shots, that should NEVER happen. I think Matta out coached himself by sitting Sully,Thomas with 2 fouls in the 1st half for so long. Craft took 10 shots Sully 5, Buford 7 and Thomas 6. Thats on Matta for not correcting that. Your 3 best scorers need more shots than that.
Dec 31, 2011 8:23pm
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Dec 31, 2011 8:24 PM
I now hate Laley and when logs on next time, he will notice that he is banned.
Dec 31, 2011 8:24pm