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Zombaypirate
Posts: 581
Dec 25, 2011 9:08pm
Makes the sport unwatchable IMO. No, I will certainly not be watching.wes_mantooth;1026681 wrote:I forgot how terrible NBA officiating is.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 25, 2011 9:09pm
I root for players and then what teams they are on.
I've never had an NBA team.....growing up it was the Lakers as Magic and Kareem were the choice over Larry, McHale and co. Once Magic left basketball in 1991....I turned to my next favorite player MJ. Bulls were my team until 1999.....rooted for Grant Hill's team until all the ankle injuries kept him from being relevant.....rooted for LeBron's teams since 2003, but no where near how I rooted for Magic and Jordan.
Growing up it was bandwagon Lakers or Celtics....no other teams on tv......with games on nearly every night it would be easier to not bandwagon......but basketball seems to lend itself that way.
I've never had an NBA team.....growing up it was the Lakers as Magic and Kareem were the choice over Larry, McHale and co. Once Magic left basketball in 1991....I turned to my next favorite player MJ. Bulls were my team until 1999.....rooted for Grant Hill's team until all the ankle injuries kept him from being relevant.....rooted for LeBron's teams since 2003, but no where near how I rooted for Magic and Jordan.
Growing up it was bandwagon Lakers or Celtics....no other teams on tv......with games on nearly every night it would be easier to not bandwagon......but basketball seems to lend itself that way.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 25, 2011 9:10pm
***** I am a certifiable bandwagon NBA fan.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 25, 2011 9:14pm
No worse than the flag football that the NFL has become with the horrible penalties and calls.Zombaypirate;1026933 wrote:Makes the sport unwatchable IMO. No, I will certainly not be watching.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Dec 25, 2011 9:17pm
I'd disagree based only on the fact that one really only needs to watch the last 15 of an NBA game. I know what you're saying but the NFL is a far superior product.Hb31187;1026938 wrote:No worse than the flag football that the NFL has become with the horrible penalties and calls.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 25, 2011 9:19pm
It is worse than football. In football, if it were like the NBA the star players could start the play well before the snap.....and then bitch about every single penalty flag like a baby....mixed with ridiculous flops.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 25, 2011 9:19pm
so you are a bandwagon fan. got it.jordo212000;1026919 wrote:Yup. Nothing worse than watching bad basketball. Especially bad NBA basketball. I avoid Charlotte, Sacramento, et al. all season. I watch the good matchups and then really start watching in the playoffs. I'm much more of a baseball and football guy
I have never liked Lebron and now I loathe Dan Gilbert. The Comic Sans email to Stern protesting the Paul trade was icing on the cake. That's why I don't root for Cleveland
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Zombaypirate
Posts: 581
Dec 25, 2011 9:20pm
It [BB] is worse, just not by much. I have watched zero complete NFL games this season. I watched a few qtrs here and there and one half one time. The NFL is getting close.Hb31187;1026938 wrote:No worse than the flag football that the NFL has become with the horrible penalties and calls.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 25, 2011 9:30pm
In the NFL star players (Qbs, Wr's, Rbs') dont have to bitch at the refs bc the refs give them the penalties already lol.Ironman92;1026943 wrote:It is worse than football. In football, if it were like the NBA the star players could start the play well before the snap.....and then bitch about every single penalty flag like a baby....mixed with ridiculous flops.
Not so sure why the NBA gets such a bad rap for players complaining, it happens in EVERY professional sport.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 25, 2011 9:31pm
I Agree the NFL is a superior product, I just think the refereeing is equally horrible lolytownfootball;1026941 wrote:I'd disagree based only on the fact that one really only needs to watch the last 15 of an NBA game. I know what you're saying but the NFL is a far superior product.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 25, 2011 9:38pm
Not even close. When was the last time LeBron even fouled out? NBA refs are a joke.Hb31187;1026958 wrote:I Agree the NFL is a superior product, I just think the refereeing is equally horrible lol
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 25, 2011 9:39pm
True. He just never plays defense unless its a chase down block though. Hard to get fouls called on you when you check the teams worst offensive player usually lollike_that;1026969 wrote:Not even close. When was the last time LeBron even fouled out? NBA refs are a joke.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 25, 2011 9:40pm
Hb31187;1026956 wrote:In the NFL star players (Qbs, Wr's, Rbs') dont have to bitch at the refs bc the refs give them the penalties already lol.
Not so sure why the NBA gets such a bad rap for players complaining, it happens in EVERY professional sport.
Stars in NFL are more 'embraceable'. Manning, Rodgers, Brady, Strahan etc.
Stars in the NBA are Kobe, Lebron, Dwade, and Howard. Each of those guys have done things that casual fans are irritated by. So fans root against them. Casual fans then see Kobe or Lebron getting star calls that Brady gets in the NFL and it drives us crazy because we dislike those guys so much
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Dec 25, 2011 9:40pm
Yeah but overall it suuucks...hard
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 25, 2011 9:41pm
So you speak for the "casual fan" party now?jordo212000;1026974 wrote:Stars in NFL are more 'embraceable'. Manning, Rodgers, Brady, Strahan etc.
Stars in the NBA are Kobe, Lebron, Dwade, and Howard. Each of those guys have done things that casual fans are irritated by. So fans root against them. Casual fans then see Kobe or Lebron getting star calls that Brady gets in the NFL and it drives us crazy because we dislike those guys so much
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 25, 2011 9:47pm
What have Howard and Wade ever done lol?jordo212000;1026974 wrote:Stars in NFL are more 'embraceable'. Manning, Rodgers, Brady, Strahan etc.
Stars in the NBA are Kobe, Lebron, Dwade, and Howard. Each of those guys have done things that casual fans are irritated by. So fans root against them. Casual fans then see Kobe or Lebron getting star calls that Brady gets in the NFL and it drives us crazy because we dislike those guys so much
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 25, 2011 9:53pm
Hb31187;1026985 wrote:What have Howard and Wade ever done lol?
You serious about Dwade? Remember what he and Lebron orchestrated last year?
Howard I guess technically hasnt done anything too major... Yet. But I have lost alot of respect for him over the past year or 2. He's held the Magic hostage and his BS is really getting old. "I want to be in Orlando." "I want traded" etc. You signed a contract. Shut up and play. At the end of the year, sit down with them and address the future.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 25, 2011 9:56pm
Funny how LeBron did the same thing, yet you always spew your "the cavs did nothing to support lebron" bullshit.jordo212000;1026990 wrote:You serious about Dwade? Remember what he and Lebron orchestrated last year?
Howard I guess technically hasnt done anything too major... Yet. But I have lost alot of respect for him over the past year or 2. He's held the Magic hostage and his BS is really getting old. "I want to be in Orlando." "I want traded" etc. You signed a contract. Shut up and play. At the end of the year, sit down with them and address the future.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 25, 2011 9:58pm
Wade resigned with the team hes been playing with his entire career and tried to get big name FA's to sign with him(like athletes do for all other teams in all sports).jordo212000;1026990 wrote:You serious about Dwade? Remember what he and Lebron orchestrated last year?
Howard I guess technically hasnt done anything too major... Yet. But I have lost alot of respect for him over the past year or 2. He's held the Magic hostage and his BS is really getting old. "I want to be in Orlando." "I want traded" etc. You signed a contract. Shut up and play. At the end of the year, sit down with them and address the future.
Howard played just as hard as he did last year every year hes been in the league, I dont think hes done anything wrong.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 25, 2011 9:58pm
Manning Rodgers Brady and strahan....where in the FUCK did strahan come from!?
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 25, 2011 9:59pm
like_that;1026994 wrote:Funny how LeBron did the same thing, yet you always spew your "the cavs did nothing to support lebron" bullshit.
I didn't say Howard can't leave, I just said that him preening to the media and changing his mind every other day annoys the bejeesus out of me. What Lebron did and what Howard is doing is very different, but okay.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 25, 2011 10:00pm
SportsAndLady;1026998 wrote:Manning Rodgers Brady and strahan....where in the FUCK did strahan come from!?
Strahan is all over the TV on commercials and was a star back in the day.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 25, 2011 10:00pm
My guess is he just wanted to name a black guy? hahahaSportsAndLady;1026998 wrote:Manning Rodgers Brady and strahan....where in the **** did strahan come from!?
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 25, 2011 10:02pm
So are you saying that no NBA fan holds that against him? Haha I wouldn't say that.Hb31187;1026997 wrote:Wade resigned with the team hes been playing with his entire career and tried to get big name FA's to sign with him(like athletes do for all other teams in all sports).
My point is that people hate the Miami Heat. Wade and Lebron were among the most hated in the NBA in a recent poll
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 25, 2011 10:03pm
Hb31187;1027004 wrote:My guess is he just wanted to name a black guy? hahaha
He could have asked why I included Manning as well. He hasnt played a down this year