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Jun 7, 2012 12:17 AM
If MKG is there at 4 the Cavs would be idiots to pass him up. Dude just has something about him that screams winner. I watched a lot of Kentucky basketball last year and he is a stud who will do very well in the NBA. The jumpshooting will improve, he may take 2-3 years to develop into a high level NBA player, but it will happen. If its trading up to get him when they could take Beal then I'm not so sure, but I think MKG is a lock to be an impact player somewhere. Cavs fans would go crazy over his hustle.

Just my 2 cents as a non-Cavs fan since you're talking about him.
Jun 7, 2012 12:17am
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Jun 7, 2012 12:32 PM
ohiobucks1;1191394 wrote:^^^

Saw somewhere that he has big anxiety issues which are turning people off from him... Isn't there medication for that lol
It's not as much anxiety as it is a huge fear of flying. He refused to fly to the tournament games this year because he needs a week to get himself mentally ready for a plane trip.
Jun 7, 2012 12:32pm
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Jun 7, 2012 12:57 PM
Here's the craziest part about how OKC built their team. It seems like they never "miss" on a draft pick. I don't know how any other team even competes with that.

Since 2007 when Presti took control here are the guys they have hit on (some of these were draft-day traded to other teams but they originally took as an asset and flipped). '*' indicate a 2nd round selection.

2007: Durant / *Carl Landry / *Glen Davis
2008: Westbrook / Ibaka (24th)
2009: Harden / R.Beaubois (25th)
2010: E.Bledsoe (18th)
2011: R.Jackson (24th) - injured last year but alot of positive hype before it.

Even Jeff Green (2007 drafted by Celtics, acquired by OKC for Ray Allen) who ended up being an overall bust ended up netting them Kendrick Perkins (back from Boston).

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If Irving was our Durant, then can this year be our Westbrook/Ibaka draft?
Jun 7, 2012 12:57pm
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Jun 7, 2012 1:18 PM
Commander of Awesome;1191964 wrote:Here's the craziest part about how OKC built their team. It seems like they never "miss" on a draft pick. I don't know how any other team even competes with that.

Since 2007 when Presti took control here are the guys they have hit on (some of these were draft-day traded to other teams but they originally took as an asset and flipped). '*' indicate a 2nd round selection.

2007: Durant / *Carl Landry / *Glen Davis
2008: Westbrook / Ibaka (24th)
2009: Harden / R.Beaubois (25th)
2010: E.Bledsoe (18th)
2011: R.Jackson (24th) - injured last year but alot of positive hype before it.

Even Jeff Green (2007 drafted by Celtics, acquired by OKC for Ray Allen) who ended up being an overall bust ended up netting them Kendrick Perkins (back from Boston).

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If Irving was our Durant, then can this year be our Westbrook/Ibaka draft?
A lot of luck too being in the top 3-5 in the draft for 3 years straight, with deep drafts i belive. With that being said, it seems pretty rare for NBA teams to build solely for through the draft these days it seems like.
Jun 7, 2012 1:18pm
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Jun 7, 2012 1:25 PM
Commander of Awesome;1191964 wrote:Here's the craziest part about how OKC built their team. It seems like they never "miss" on a draft pick. I don't know how any other team even competes with that.

Since 2007 when Presti took control here are the guys they have hit on (some of these were draft-day traded to other teams but they originally took as an asset and flipped). '*' indicate a 2nd round selection.

2007: Durant / *Carl Landry / *Glen Davis
2008: Westbrook / Ibaka (24th)
2009: Harden / R.Beaubois (25th)
2010: E.Bledsoe (18th)
2011: R.Jackson (24th) - injured last year but alot of positive hype before it.

Even Jeff Green (2007 drafted by Celtics, acquired by OKC for Ray Allen) who ended up being an overall bust ended up netting them Kendrick Perkins (back from Boston).

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If Irving was our Durant, then can this year be our Westbrook/Ibaka draft?

They drafted eric maynor as well. he was hurt this year but played very well last year the backup point guard
Jun 7, 2012 1:25pm
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Jun 8, 2012 8:43 AM
Bobcats looking to move the #2 pick...

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Jun 8, 2012 8:43am
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Jun 8, 2012 8:55 AM
I probably wouldn't be willing to deal for the #2 pick. I'd rather have Lamb or Barnes than MKG.
Jun 8, 2012 8:55am
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Jun 8, 2012 11:45 AM
gport_tennis;1192009 wrote:They drafted eric maynor as well. he was hurt this year but played very well last year the backup point guard
Presti has been gold with his trades and draft picks. I cannot find a bad move he is done whatsoever.

Maynor came from Utah in the middle of his rookie year. It was when Sloan was there. I was very surprised they dealt him....for a bum who stopped playing basketball in Germany a few months after the trade.

Beaubois was traded to Dallas for BJ Mullens and a 2010 2nd rounder. Mullens was then traded for '13 2nd rounder.

Presti pretty much traded Dexter Pittman(32nd pick in 2010) for Daequan Cook and Eric Bledsoe(traded to LAC) when Miami was in a salary shredding spree before the summer of Bosh/LeBron signing.

The draft pick that became Serge Ibaka was traded to OKC(then Seattle, on Presti's watch) with Kurt Thomas from Phoenix because they wanted to dump Thomas' salary.

Presti is without a doubt who Grant should carbon copy while trying to turn around the Cavs. Really remarkable stuff.
Jun 8, 2012 11:45am
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Jun 8, 2012 2:04 PM
How amazing would it be though, if we could trade for #2 and not give up #4. We could then take MKG and Lamb and have quite the future
Jun 8, 2012 2:04pm
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Jun 8, 2012 2:37 PM
Sullinger measured in at 6'9" with shoes. I know this is the Cavs thread, but I just thought you guys may be interested in that lol
Jun 8, 2012 2:37pm
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Jun 8, 2012 6:31 PM
I think the Bobcats asking price for #2 is going to be a little more than what the Cavs want to offer. I read that they want an all-star caliber player in return with some picks, Rudy Gay has been rumored.

I think they might talk to NOH about the 10th pick
Jun 8, 2012 6:31pm
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Jun 8, 2012 9:24 PM
ohiobucks1;1193296 wrote:Sullinger measured in at 6'9" with shoes. I know this is the Cavs thread, but I just thought you guys may be interested in that lol
A little over 6'7'' without shoes. Also measured in at +10% bodyfat
Jun 8, 2012 9:24pm
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Jun 9, 2012 11:37 PM
Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
Cleveland and Portland have talked about swapping draft picks, according to source. Cavs would get #6 and #11, Blazers would get #4 and #24.
Jun 9, 2012 11:37pm
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Jun 9, 2012 11:49 PM
KR1245;1194305 wrote:Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
Cleveland and Portland have talked about swapping draft picks, according to source. Cavs would get #6 and #11, Blazers would get #4 and #24.

Hmmmmmm
Jun 9, 2012 11:49pm
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Jun 9, 2012 11:52 PM
KR1245;1194305 wrote:Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
Cleveland and Portland have talked about swapping draft picks, according to source. Cavs would get #6 and #11, Blazers would get #4 and #24.
I think I'd be ok with that... Would still possibly get Lamb or Barnes then we could turn around and get another very good player at 11, or package 11 with a 2nd and a future and maybe a player and jump back into the top 8ish?

I also saw that Andre Drummond stated the Cavs were NOT at his recent workout to interview him.
Jun 9, 2012 11:52pm
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Jun 9, 2012 11:56 PM
hoops23;1194315 wrote:I think I'd be ok with that... Would still possibly get Lamb or Barnes then we could turn around and get another very good player at 11, or package 11 with a 2nd and a future and maybe a player and jump back into the top 8ish?

I also saw that Andre Drummond stated the Cavs were NOT at his recent workout to interview him.

Maybe both.

And YES!! Want no part of Drummond
Jun 9, 2012 11:56pm
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Jun 10, 2012 12:50 AM
hoops23;1194315 wrote:I think I'd be ok with that... Would still possibly get Lamb or Barnes then we could turn around and get another very good player at 11, or package 11 with a 2nd and a future and maybe a player and jump back into the top 8ish?

I also saw that Andre Drummond stated the Cavs were NOT at his recent workout to interview him.
I would love 6 and 11. Makes it even more likely to take Lamb.
Jun 10, 2012 12:50am
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Jun 10, 2012 12:55 AM
Would any of you take a look at Meyers Leonard? He was a legit 7'1 at his measurement and he seems to have a high ceiling skill wise.
Jun 10, 2012 12:55am
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Jun 10, 2012 12:57 AM
hoops23;1194371 wrote:Would any of you take a look at Meyers Leonard? He was a legit 7'1 at his measurement and he seems to have a high ceiling skill wise.
No. If a player is "raw" they better have off the charts potential to be considered. He doesn't. He's soft and he gets rattled easily.
Jun 10, 2012 12:57am
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Jun 10, 2012 1:12 AM
Mulva;1194374 wrote:No. If a player is "raw" they better have off the charts potential to be considered. He doesn't. He's soft and he gets rattled easily.
I only saw him once last year and he did pretty well against us. I honestly didn't know much about him, just heard some people talking about his size and skill.
Jun 10, 2012 1:12am
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Jun 10, 2012 2:03 AM
hoops23;1194388 wrote:I only saw him once last year and he did pretty well against us. I honestly didn't know much about him, just heard some people talking about his size and skill.
He's a great athlete and he has a decent J, but he disappears completely when he doesn't get his touches and even at his best he never dominated (from what I saw, probably 6-8 Illinois games).
Jun 10, 2012 2:03am
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Jun 10, 2012 2:32 AM
Piss poor attitude as well. Easily can get in his head.
Jun 10, 2012 2:32am
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Jun 10, 2012 8:10 AM
I think the top 3 are set with Davis, Robinson and MKG. I would love for MKG to fall to the Cavs but I dont think he gets past the Wiz.

There doesnt appear to be much of a gap between guys in the 4-9 area. If that's what the Cavs are thinking I would def make the trade with Portland. I wonder who Portland wants that bad that they're going to make that trade?
Jun 10, 2012 8:10am
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Jun 10, 2012 8:17 AM
Midstate01;1194423 wrote:Piss poor attitude as well. Easily can get in his head.
What worries me is that I have read the same things about Jeremy Lamb. It has been said that he looks disinterested in the interviews and on the court at times.

At the same time, a scout said that he moves Allen-like without the ball.
Jun 10, 2012 8:17am