hoops23;1078632 wrote:What does that have to do with anything? You're pulling **** out of your ass...

If athletes are superior today then it's all fair game, is it not? Magic played in the 80's with athletes similar to him (though Magic was a freak) and LBJ is playing in today's game with athletes similar to him (though he is a freak as well)...

That point is seriously stupid.

Heretic;1078638 wrote:To counterpoint that argument: If LeBron was a player in that era, he wouldn't have access to all the physical training techniques and improvements that players of today had. And if Magic played now, he would have access to all that.

So I don't know that you can say a player is better because of their era, as it ignores the fact that everyone in a particular era is playing by the same rules and if they were transplanted to another era, they'd be using the techniques of that era.

robj55;1078634 wrote:Magic is 19,11, and 7 for his career. Lebron is 27,7 and 7.

Heretic;1078638 wrote:To counterpoint that argument: If LeBron was a player in that era, he wouldn't have access to all the physical training techniques and improvements that players of today had. And if Magic played now, he would have access to all that.

So I don't know that you can say a player is better because of their era, as it ignores the fact that everyone in a particular era is playing by the same rules and if they were transplanted to another era, they'd be using the techniques of that era.

robj55;1078640 wrote:I'm comparing them head to head, I said earlier Lebron would eat Magic alive and I stand by that. Lebron would lock Magic down and Magic wouldn't be able to guard him. You think Magic could lock down someone like DRose, no way.

Y-Town Steelhound;1078635 wrote:Ok, but you can also play the other side of that argument. I would argue if the 80s players had access to the supplements, workouts, equipment (shoes, uniforms), travel amenities, and other technological advantages today's athlete has that they would pretty much close that gap. It's all relative.

LBbj'spenisinmymouth55;1078634 wrote:So we base shooting on free throw shooting now? Lebron is a far better jump shooter than Magic ever was and is one of the best finishers around the rim this game has ever seen. 85 is Magic's career%. Magic is 19,11, and 7 for his career. Lebron is 27,7 and 7.

hoops23;1078645 wrote:LeBron couldn't lock down Paul Pierce, yet he's going to lock down Magic... LOL

sleeper;1078644 wrote:It's a lot easier to stand out as a freak in the 80's because your competition was terrible than it is now when your competition are all freaks, its much more difficult.

Heretic;1078643 wrote:Which puts them at even. The 7 rebs cancel each other out, Lebron scores eight more a game and Magic's four extra assists provides for a matching eight.

Commander of Awesome;1078647 wrote:So LBJ is a better finisher at the rim and still avgs 48%, Magic avg 52%. Hmmmmm, sounds like a better shooter to me. Nice fail.

sleeper;1078644 wrote:It's a lot easier to stand out as a freak in the 80's because your competition was terrible than it is now when your competition are all freaks, its much more difficult.

robj55;1078642 wrote:Fair point, I said earlier it's hard to compare players from different eras.

hoops23;1078645 wrote:LeBron couldn't lock down Paul Pierce, yet he's going to lock down Magic... LOL

wildcats20;1078653 wrote:Then why do you keep doing it?

Y-Town Steelhound;1078652 wrote:If being a good basketball player was solely based on athletic ability, Christian Eyenga would be an All-Star.

robj55;1078654 wrote:But he locked down Derrick Rose..

Y-Town Steelhound;1078657 wrote:Also Magic got laid more....so you have to take that into consideration.

Commander of Awesome;1078658 wrote:He did? When?

robj55;1078654 wrote:But he locked down Derrick Rose..

Y-Town Steelhound;1078564 wrote:Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize Cleveland elected Mulva as spokesperson for all Cleveland fans. I must have missed those elections. Please let me know when the next ones are. In the meantime here's a tip, generalizations are not the same as fact based points.

hoops23;1078663 wrote:LeBron 6'8 270

DRose 6'3 190...

I'd hope LBJ could check D Rose for spurts within a game..

So I guess you assume LBJ would **** on MJ as well then? Because Magic and MJ had a few good battles as well.. Even thought Magic's career was winding down..