Also, how you lose and who you lose to matters, Nick fought the best of the best, he would be 95% of the division. Look at a guy like Lyoto Machida, he's 1-3 in his last 4 but in the past years time he has fought Weidman, Dolloway, Rockhold and Romero, that's tougher than anyone elses schedule in that time span.

robj55;1739460 wrote:Also, how you lose and who you lose to matters, Nick fought the best of the best, he would be 95% of the division. Look at a guy like Lyoto Machida, he's 1-3 in his last 4 but in the past years time he has fought Weidman, Dolloway, Rockhold and Romero, that's tougher than anyone elses schedule in that time span.

Machida won the belt and then fought for a second in a different division. Melendez, Diaz, and Shields were hyped up as the best guys outside the UFC and when put against the best guys in the UFC they lost. I just see them as busts considering the hype train behind all of them. Not to mention they've all be popped for some sort of drug use.

Raw Dawgin' it;1739552 wrote:Machida won the belt and then fought for a second in a different division. Melendez, Diaz, and Shields were hyped up as the best guys outside the UFC and when put against the best guys in the UFC they lost. I just see them as busts considering the hype train behind all of them. Not to mention they've all be popped for some sort of drug use.

I don't see it that way, as for Melendez, he's 1-3 in the UFC but I thought he beat both Bendo and Alvarez, his only definitive loss was Pettis. All subjective.

How about ATT coming back and winning TUF

sportchampps;1739706 wrote:How about ATT coming back and winning TUF

Crazy.

That fight last night between Hayder Hassan vs Vicente Luque was crazy. Easily fight of the season. Luque won Rd 1, but I think Hassan did enough in Rd 2 to force a 3rd Rd. Int he 3rd Rd, I had Hassan over Luque as well. Both guys battled bravely. It was sad there had to be a loser.

ATT coming back and winning the season after being down as bad as they were is crazy. I kinda feel bad for the Blackzillians, because it should have been over last week. Jason Jackson had Michael Graves beat. How in the world the ref didn't stop that fight is behind me. Graves was turtling and taking shots left & right. But props to Graves... he still fought back and submitted Jackson. Yeah there might have been 2-3 'fouls' on Jackson that fight like Dana said, but you know what... they weren't called and they were calls that could have gone either way. The blatant non-stoppage is just inexcusable. Jackson was PUMMELING Graves. But I guess you could just as easily say, well Jason obviously didn't knockout Michael, and you know what, you'd be absolutely right.

If I had to rank the fighters from this season, I'd rank 'em:

#5 TOSS-UP: Carrington Banks (BZ) (1-0) or Michael Graves (ATT) (1-1) or Nathan Coy (ATT) (1-1)
#3/4 Interchangeable between Vicente Luque (BZ) (1-1) and Jason Jackson (BZ) (1-1) - slight edge to Luque because of his performance against Hassan
#2 Kamaru Usman (BZ) (2-0)
#1 Hayder Hassan (ATT) (3-0)


I think the got the Final right between Hassan vs. Usman. I think Hassan might be the real-deal. I think if you put him up tho against a true wrestler/bjj, he could get owned; but Hassan just has that 'I will NOT lose' mentality that you just don't see to often in guys.

Should be a good Final.

I like Luque fighting Graves in the Final as well. That should be a good matchup. Wish they had more guys from the show fighting, instead of a bunch of guys that weren't on the show fighting.

sportchampps;1739706 wrote:How about ATT coming back and winning TUF

Hard to believe, looked like they were dead in the water.

Travis Browne pulled from fight week activities due to domestic abuse allegations.

What are everyone's final predictions for this card? I'm getting pumped.

I like: Mendes, Rory, Bermudez, Thatch, and Almedia. Think Mendez could be by TKO/KO on the feet to. He can counter with power, and Conor is open to be hit. Hoping Conor wins though.

Conor
Lawler
Stephens
Thatch
Almeida

Think there is a decent shot that Tim Means beats Matt Brown as well as much as I hate to say it.

Damn isn't brown still dating a super hot chick

Travis Browne's wife

Fab1b;1740095 wrote:Travis Browne's wife

Damn...

tomorrow's card is gonna be amazing man!

I may not get to watch due to some other plans. Hoping a nearby bar may show it.

Mendes stops the hype!

Mendes (McGregor hasn't fought anyone of Mendes's caliber nor a legit wrestler, and the hype ends tonight thankfully)
Lawler
Bermudez
Thatch
Almeida

Matt Brown with another great finish.

My god this card man, unreal

So pissed I'm fucking missing it as results come in

Rory just got his face pizza'd. Tko lawler in 5th. Best fight I've seen for a bit.

Absolute bloody war

The first two rounds sucked of the lawler fight but the last 3 made up for it but not the greatest fight in the division ever

If it went to cards who would you have taken?

Mvgregor with the ko. Mendes was controlling him on ground then they got back to feet and he stood there and mcgregor fucked him up lol strange

Still don't think McGregor can beat Aldo. He can stand with him but on the ground? Nah.

Mendes was working him on the ground til he stood in front of him and got lit up

Best PPV ever? incredible!