A lot of differing opinions on this.

robj55;1707985 wrote:[video=youtube;7lsVA7W_P4o][/video]

That video is disgusting, and criminal charges need to be brought against this thug. How is Josh Neer any different than the thuggery we see of people beating the crap out of other helpless people on a bus / at Dennys / in front of Target / etc.

Scarlet_Buckeye;1708239 wrote:That video is disgusting, and criminal charges need to be brought against this thug. How is Josh Neer any different than the thuggery we see of people beating the crap out of other helpless people on a bus / at Dennys / in front of Target / etc.

1) The guy is not helpless, he is 6'6" and 240 lbs.
2) He agreed to fight Josh Neer, and actually begged to do so.
3) The fight was in a controlled gym environment - no weird objects to hit your head on, the number one cause of serious injury in street fights.

That is three ways this was very different. However, it does seem the gym lost some control over the fight and there should be some accountability. The problem is, we don't know exactly what led up to that. The guy taking the shots doesn't seem to mad about it either, he just wants a rematch haha.

Only thing that was over the line imo was the soccer kick, the guy asked for the fight.

Zoltan;1708254 wrote:1) The guy is not helpless, he is 6'6" and 240 lbs.
2) He agreed to fight Josh Neer, and actually begged to do so.
3) The fight was in a controlled gym environment - no weird objects to hit your head on, the number one cause of serious injury in street fights.

That is three ways this was very different. However, it does seem the gym lost some control over the fight and there should be some accountability. The problem is, we don't know exactly what led up to that. The guy taking the shots doesn't seem to mad about it either, he just wants a rematch haha.

1) Was that a sanctioned MMA event/fight? Exactly which part of him laying motionless on the mat, and Neer repeatedly elbowing the guy and kicking him in the head isn't "helpless"?
2) Asking to fight someone / begging to fight someone, is not the same as... here, please beat me till I lay completely motionless on the ground. One thing you hear consistently throughout MMA is the respect and admiration these fighters have one one another. Elbowing and kicking someone in the head while they lay nearly motionless on the ground is not "the MMA way".
3) Didn't look controlled to me. Again, exactly which part about a guy laying motionless on the canvass while still taking shots is "controlled"? In fact, someone half-heartedly stepped in later and pulled Neer off the guy, and yet Neer STILL throws a kick to the guy laying down. In any MMA sanctioned /controlled environment, that would likely result in some sort of fine/penalty.

No. That was ZERO ways this was different.

robj55;1708257 wrote:Only thing that was over the line imo was the soccer kick, the guy asked for the fight.

Yep, agreed. Neer should be in trouble for it. The very end, or basically what we can see on video is poor form.

Scarlet_Buckeye;1708259 wrote:1) Was that a sanctioned MMA event/fight? Exactly which part of him laying motionless on the mat, and Neer repeatedly elbowing the guy and kicking him in the head isn't "helpless"?
2) Asking to fight someone / begging to fight someone, is not the same as... here, please beat me till I lay completely motionless on the ground. One thing you hear consistently throughout MMA is the respect and admiration these fighters have one one another. Elbowing and kicking someone in the head while they lay nearly motionless on the ground is not "the MMA way".
3) Didn't look controlled to me. Again, exactly which part about a guy laying motionless on the canvass while still taking shots is "controlled"? In fact, someone half-heartedly stepped in later and pulled Neer off the guy, and yet Neer STILL throws a kick to the guy laying down. In any MMA sanctioned /controlled environment, that would likely result in some sort of fine/penalty.

No. That was ZERO ways this was different.

You asked how it's different from a helpless person getting mugged on the street. All of those are different. Plus, they had on gloves as well. I'm not defending Neer, he looks terrible here and will likely get in trouble.

Kimbo Slice vs Ken Sharock announced for Bellator LOl what a circus that's gonna be.

lol bellator

Shamrock is 51 years old

I had no idea Shamrock was even still alive.

Some good fights on Bellator tonight

That was ducked up by Neer. Everybody in that gym is responsible.

This dumb ass got put in the triangle 3 diff times in the first round.

domination. same shit every round.

Who won the last fight? I quit watching after that joke of a fight between Mo and Kongo.

Round 5 of a zzzzzZZZZ fest

se-alum;1708987 wrote:Who won the last fight? I quit watching after that joke of a fight between Mo and Kongo.

5th round just finished. I've got the British dude 48-47. Newton was almost submitted an easy 10 times. Same exact position over and over.

Going newton. 3-2

Liam wins.

King Mo needs to just go do pro wrestling, quite a few of his recent fights he is just stalling position and not attempting to do any damage what so ever. Cyborg destroyed her opponent in like 46 second.

So basically we got the same from bellator that they always deliver

What the hell happened to Mark Munoz, guy is a shell of his former self.

Any updates had to miss tonight

sportchampps;1709095 wrote:Any updates had to miss tonight

Ferguson steam rolled Tibau, Alan Jouban KO'd Richard Walsh with a nasty elbow, Ellenberger hit a nasty modified choke on Koscheck which had him foaming at the mouth, Holm won a decision, looked solid but not the performance she needed.