Raw Dawgin' it;1686653 wrote:Slice was a joke - he went through TUF and got beat up. Brock had a DIV-1 wrestling background and is beyond athletically gifted. He also fought outside the UFC before being signed. Punk has zero background in fighting.

robj55;1686742 wrote:Also, I'm not saying that seniority with the company should mean everything, I'm saying that it should factor in somehow. When Nate signed the contract he was top 5 in the world, you're telling me that someone who is top 5 in the world at what they do should be making 30/30? No way.

OSH;1686748 wrote:Never said Slice wasn't a joke. All I said was UFC missed a major attraction in signing Slice and Brock at the same time. Put them on a PPV and it would've been the top buy...maybe ever. UFC should have been the first MMA organization to sign Slice. Slice signed with EliteXC in 2007, Lesnar shortly after in 2008. This was at the height of Slice's YouTube popularity and the major rumors of Lesnar going MMA.

It would've been a major card. People would've watched it. It had the potential to be massive.

It does factor in. But it doesn't really factor in with people who take a year off, win 1 out of last 4 fights, and come in overweight/unfit. Why should someone get MORE pay for that? Oh, because you won a good fight 4 years ago? Meh...I don't buy that one bit.

robj55;1686742 wrote:Also, I'm not saying that seniority with the company should mean everything, I'm saying that it should factor in somehow. When Nate signed the contract he was top 5 in the world, you're telling me that someone who is top 5 in the world at what they do should be making 30/30? No way.

OSH;1686748 wrote:
It does factor in. But it doesn't really factor in with people who take a year off, win 1 out of last 4 fights, and come in overweight/unfit. Why should someone get MORE pay for that? Oh, because you won a good fight 4 years ago? Meh...I don't buy that one bit.

jmog;1686758 wrote:I actually agree that he "should" make more than 30/30, but him, his agent, and the UFC came to an agreement. Maybe he gets a HUGE ppv/viewership (on Fox cards) bonus compared to other fighters? That would be a valid reason to sign a 30/30 for him since his is a "big draw".

The PPV/viewership bonuses are not publicized, so who knows how much he really makes per fight from the UFC.

Shoot, I think his brother's contract is one of the few (percentage wise) in the UFC that has no win bonus, its just $200k to show. Although I am SURE he has PPV bonus money in there.

robj55;1686749 wrote:Give me an example where that factors in then. Again, the contract was signed two years ago before the Ben Henderson title fight. What happened this week has no bearing on the terms of the contract.

robj55;1686761 wrote:I doubt he is getting any type of bonus like that because he probably wouldn't be complaining if he did, impossible to know for sure though. I bet he makes more on sponsors than he does on fight purse. I'm sure Nick get's PPV points.

OSH;1686763 wrote:Then he should honor the terms of his contract and be a responsible employee/fighter. Maybe that affects every contract he signs? If he doesn't like them, don't sign them.

He could probably get hired at McDonald's somewhere if he needs money bad enough.

jmog;1686777 wrote:I don't understand him complaining about a contract that him and his agent signed and agreed to. I DEFINITELY don't understand someone outside of the situation (you) complaining about a contract that HE and HIS AGENT agreed to?

If he was worth more, don't you think his agent would have got him more?

robj55;1686793 wrote:http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/12/16/7405055/jon-fitch-nate-quarry-and-cung-le-file-class-action-lawsuit-against

Game changer right here, could change MMA forever.

robj55;1686793 wrote:http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/12/16/7405055/jon-fitch-nate-quarry-and-cung-le-file-class-action-lawsuit-against

Game changer right here, could change MMA forever.

Zoltan;1686936 wrote:I am really curious to see the evidence the fighters have, because I haven't seen anything that looks bad for the UFC. If anything comes out of this, it won't be good for fight fans. This age right now, where almost all of the best fighters are in the UFC fighting each other is really good for fans. I dread a day where it gets splintered, and we cannot get the good match ups the fans want.

bigdaddy2003;1687914 wrote:I just don't give CB much of a chance.

robj55;1687916 wrote:I don't think anyone does, but he has improved a ton over the last few years.

robj55;1687916 wrote:I don't think anyone does, but he has improved a ton over the last few years.

Raw Dawgin' it;1687933 wrote:Seems like a must win for both guys if they want a title shot, especially Lyoto.