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Nov 15, 2011 4:37 PM
The_Crosby_Show;973783 wrote:Yes he's a Black Belt.

I still don't think he deserves to fight for the title right now, but it's whatever.
I really hope hendo stomps out shogun so he can get a crack at jones. rashad is made of glass so i doubt he's back anytime soon
Nov 15, 2011 11:37am
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Nov 15, 2011 5:10 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;973604 wrote:I totally forgot Jones was fighting the dragon. Really hoping Machida comes out and surprises everyone. He's elusive, so maybe he can get inside and taking him down. If Machida a bjj black belt?
Machida will present different problems for Jones than he has ever faced. Rampage and Shogun pretty much walked strait forward and were easy targets for Jones, Machida won't do that. Will be interesting to see if Jones gets wild with his striking if Machida can catch him. Machida also has tremendous take down defense. Machida is the only guy with even a slim chance to beat Jones imo.
Nov 15, 2011 12:10pm
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Nov 15, 2011 5:36 PM
I really want to see Bones vs Silva.
Nov 15, 2011 12:36pm
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Nov 15, 2011 5:44 PM
bigdaddy2003;973899 wrote:I really want to see Bones vs Silva.
Me too but I don't think Silva has the wrestling to beat Jones, bad match up for him imo.
Nov 15, 2011 12:44pm
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Nov 15, 2011 7:11 PM
Zuffa (UFC) is suing the New York Attorney General.
Nov 15, 2011 2:11pm
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Nov 15, 2011 7:13 PM
That should be interesting...lol.
Nov 15, 2011 2:13pm
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Nov 17, 2011 5:41 AM
Who does everyone have for this weekend?

Shogun or Hendo
Le or The Axe Murderer
Bowles or Faber
Kampmann or Story
Bonnar or Kingsbury

Bader vs Brilz on the prelims? Wow.

I forgot about Fedor fighting Monson this weekend also.
Nov 17, 2011 12:41am
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Nov 17, 2011 5:55 AM
Hendo, Silva, Bowles, Story, Bonnar.
Nov 17, 2011 12:55am
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Nov 17, 2011 7:02 AM
bigdaddy2003;976001 wrote:Who does everyone have for this weekend?

Shogun or Hendo
Le or The Axe Murderer
Bowles or Faber
Kampmann or Story
Bonnar or Kingsbury

Bader vs Brilz on the prelims? Wow.

I forgot about Fedor fighting Monson this weekend also.
Shogun
Le
Faber
Kampmann
Bonnar

Miguel Torres is on the prelims too!
Nov 17, 2011 2:02am
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Nov 17, 2011 7:06 AM
Shogun (I love both fighters)
Silva
Faber
Kampmann
Bonnar
Nov 17, 2011 2:06am
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Nov 17, 2011 1:27 PM
Hendo!!
Wandy
Bowles
Story
Bonnar
Bader
Torres
Nov 17, 2011 8:27am
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Nov 17, 2011 3:20 PM
Also, why is everyone so big on shogun? He has one quality win in the UFC and that was against Lyoto. He's beaten 1 top 10 contender since joining the UFC. He's overrated.
Nov 17, 2011 10:20am
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Nov 17, 2011 6:00 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;976228 wrote:Also, why is everyone so big on shogun? He has one quality win in the UFC and that was against Lyoto. He's beaten 1 top 10 contender since joining the UFC. He's overrated.
Completely disagree, while he has been inconsistent with injuries hampering him, he is extremely dangerous. Chuck and Forrest were great wins. I think if Hendo stands with him that Shogun will be the first person to finish him with strikes.
Nov 17, 2011 1:00pm
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Nov 17, 2011 6:11 PM
robj55;976387 wrote:Completely disagree, while he has been inconsistent with injuries hampering him, he is extremely dangerous. Chuck and Forrest were great wins. I think if Hendo stands with him that Shogun will be the first person to finish him with strikes.
Completely disagree...chuck was passed him prime. He had been KO'd by Rampage and Evans and people were already talking about his weak chin and being old. And Forrest? KO'd by evans and silva, barely beats an old tito and gets a decision over a guy who is a middle weight.

I don't see Hendo getting KO'd, i see shogun being aggressive and getting put to sleep.
Nov 17, 2011 1:11pm
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Nov 17, 2011 6:15 PM
Yeah, Shogun is definitely dangerous. I think he finishes Hendo in some shape or form.
Nov 17, 2011 1:15pm
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Nov 17, 2011 6:17 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;976401 wrote:Completely disagree...chuck was passed him prime. He had been KO'd by Rampage and Evans and people were already talking about his weak chin and being old. And Forrest? KO'd by evans and silva, barely beats an old tito and gets a decision over a guy who is a middle weight.

I don't see Hendo getting KO'd, i see shogun being aggressive and getting put to sleep.
Just because those guys had been finished previously to fighting Shogun doesn't mean they weren't dangerous and top ten fighters. I know Hendo's chin is legendary but people forget that Shoguns is as well, he can take some serious punishment. I think it would be in Hendo's best interest to use his wrestling since Shogun doesn't have the best defensive wrestling.
Nov 17, 2011 1:17pm
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Nov 17, 2011 6:27 PM
robj55;976407 wrote:Just because those guys had been finished previously to fighting Shogun doesn't mean they weren't dangerous and top ten fighters. I know Hendo's chin is legendary but people forget that Shoguns is as well, he can take some serious punishment. I think it would be in Hendo's best interest to use his wrestling since Shogun doesn't have the best defensive wrestling.
I just don't agree that Shoguns road to the title was very hard. He beat coleman and chuck and he got a crack at the title. He had two great fights against machida but i think that KO was his only quality win. I don't think Chuck was very dangerous. Shogun was a younger faster fighter and we all knew if chuck got caught he was going lights out. Also, forrest doesn't finish many guys and i thought that was fight was also just a matter of time before forrest got beat up. He's big and slow.

I'm not saying shogun isn't dangerous or a great fighter...just think he's a little overrated right now. I think hendo will counter punch him out. He may use his wrestling, but shogun is no slouch on the ground.
Nov 17, 2011 1:27pm
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Nov 17, 2011 6:33 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;976418 wrote:I just don't agree that Shoguns road to the title was very hard. He beat coleman and chuck and he got a crack at the title. He had two great fights against machida but i think that KO was his only quality win. I don't think Chuck was very dangerous. Shogun was a younger faster fighter and we all knew if chuck got caught he was going lights out. Also, forrest doesn't finish many guys and i thought that was fight was also just a matter of time before forrest got beat up. He's big and slow.

I'm not saying shogun isn't dangerous or a great fighter...just think he's a little overrated right now. I think hendo will counter punch him out. He may use his wrestling, but shogun is no slouch on the ground.
Shogun's standup is superior to Hendo's imo, way more diverse of an attack.
Nov 17, 2011 1:33pm
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Nov 17, 2011 6:34 PM
I think Shogun is winning the fight but then Dan lands that ledendary right and it's ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Nov 17, 2011 1:34pm
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Nov 17, 2011 6:39 PM
robj55;976433 wrote:Shogun's standup is superior to Hendo's imo, way more diverse of an attack.
More diverse...but i think dan hits harder and doesn't need to connect as much as shogun will.
Nov 17, 2011 1:39pm
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Nov 17, 2011 6:43 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;976457 wrote:More diverse...but i think dan hits harder and doesn't need to connect as much as shogun will.
He may hit harder but Shogun will land more, with kicks, knees and punches. Dan throws little more than a right hand anymore and got clipped by Feijao and Fedor. Would be curious to see if Shogun could take one of those right hand bombs lol, both these guys probably have the best chins at 205 and in all of MMA. I'm hoping for a 5 round stand up war.
Nov 17, 2011 1:43pm
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Nov 17, 2011 7:14 PM
robj55;976464 wrote:He may hit harder but Shogun will land more, with kicks, knees and punches. Dan throws little more than a right hand anymore and got clipped by Feijao and Fedor. Would be curious to see if Shogun could take one of those right hand bombs lol, both these guys probably have the best chins at 205 and in all of MMA. I'm hoping for a 5 round stand up war.
Totally agree. I thought Fedor was going to finish the fight, he also had 20 pounds on him so that punch definitely had some force.

The good thing is, both guys know how to put on a good fight, we won't see any pussy footing in there
Nov 17, 2011 2:14pm
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Nov 17, 2011 7:16 PM
How does everyone think the Fedor v Monson fight goes down?
Nov 17, 2011 2:16pm
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Nov 17, 2011 7:29 PM
bigdaddy2003;976527 wrote:How does everyone think the Fedor v Monson fight goes down?
Fedor by sub after rocking him on the feet. Would like to see Fedor string 3 or 4 wins together and M1 to keep their heads and find a way to get him into the UFC, not likely to happen but there would be some amazing match ups there for him.
Nov 17, 2011 2:29pm
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Nov 17, 2011 7:30 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;976521 wrote:Totally agree. I thought Fedor was going to finish the fight, he also had 20 pounds on him so that punch definitely had some force.

The good thing is, both guys know how to put on a good fight, we won't see any **** footing in there
What I respect about Hendo is his willingness to fight whoever at whatever weight basically, total badass and warrior.
Nov 17, 2011 2:30pm