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Fab1b

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Jul 19, 2011 2:29 AM
IMO Diaz has a chance of winning by way of Matt Sierra, land that one big punch. I see GSP constantly taking the fight to the ground and controlling Diaz there for 5 rds, I hope not would love to see fireworks but GSP will grind out a victory by top position here.
Jul 18, 2011 10:29pm
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Jul 19, 2011 3:09 AM
Realistically Nick will have to win this fight off his back, GSP won't stand with Nick because of his boxing ability. Nick throws punches in bunches and walks forward at all times, GSP does not respond well to being hit. GSP will have to be careful on the ground because Nick has an excellent guard and submission skills. Nick will bring the fight to GSP unlike any other welterweight however and hopefully will make for an exciting fight(i've never seen Nick in a boring fight). GSP needs a good, EXCITING performance. People are getting sick of his playing it safe and fighting not to lose approach to fights. In the end GSP's wrestling may be able to neutralize Nicks game, but Diaz will fight wherever the bout takes him, not a game plan fighter.
Jul 18, 2011 11:09pm
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Jul 19, 2011 3:10 AM
robj55;833908 wrote:Realistically Nick will have to win this fight off his back, GSP won't stand with Nick because of his boxing ability. Nick throws punches in bunches and walks forward at all times, GSP does not respond well to being hit. GSP will have to be careful on the ground because Nick has an excellent guard and submission skills. Nick will bring the fight to GSP unlike any other welterweight however and hopefully will make for an exciting fight(i've never seen Nick in a boring fight). GSP needs a good, EXCITING performance. People are getting sick of his playing it safe and fighting not to lose approach to fights. In the end GSP's wrestling may be able to neutralize Nicks game, but Diaz will fight wherever the bout takes him, not a game plan fighter.

Pretty well said. Diaz is no slouch when it comes to the sub game. But we have a few months til we can get serious.
Jul 18, 2011 11:10pm
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Jul 19, 2011 3:10 AM
jmog;833695 wrote:Anyone willing to make a bet on gsp vs diaz? I like both guys but I just dont see it being that close. Gsp is on a different overall level than diaz.

GSP is a better wrestler and is stronger/better athlete. I think Nick takes the striking, BJJ, cardio, heart and chin categories. Only problem is that GSP has the ability to dictate where the fight takes place with his wrestling, that's the difference.
Jul 18, 2011 11:10pm
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Jul 19, 2011 3:17 AM
Apparently Overeem has a toe injury.
Jul 18, 2011 11:17pm
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Jul 19, 2011 4:22 AM
robj55;833933 wrote:Apparently Overeem has a vagina injury.
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Jul 19, 2011 12:22am
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Jul 21, 2011 3:28 PM
robj55;833915 wrote:GSP is a better wrestler and is stronger/better athlete. I think Nick takes the striking, BJJ, cardio, heart and chin categories. Only problem is that GSP has the ability to dictate where the fight takes place with his wrestling, that's the difference.

Overall Striking they are about even. Boxing no doubt Diaz, but once you include footwork and kicks they are darn close.
Overall Ground game I have to go with GSP as well. No doubt Diaz's straight submission BJJ is better, but GSP's submission defense is off the charts and so is his wrestling. BJPenn couldn't sub GSP off his back and he's better than Diaz in the BJJ world.
Cardio I find it hard to believe anyone can go against GSP on this too, he is a workout/cardio machine, plus through the fact that he is about 20-25 lbs bigger than Diaz and Diaz will have to carry his weight up against the cage or on the mat, Diaz will be the first to get tired in my opinion. However, Diaz's cardio is nuts as well, at best they are even here.
Chin-only thing that hands down Diaz has, he can take a beating and GSP has shown that he can not.

I see this fight being a highly technical ground battle...and on the ground no one at 170 can match GSP.
Jul 21, 2011 11:28am
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Jul 21, 2011 5:05 PM
I want to see the UFC come back during the Arnold weekend,
Jul 21, 2011 1:05pm
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Jul 21, 2011 6:03 PM
jmog;836628 wrote:Overall Striking they are about even. Boxing no doubt Diaz, but once you include footwork and kicks they are darn close.
Overall Ground game I have to go with GSP as well. No doubt Diaz's straight submission BJJ is better, but GSP's submission defense is off the charts and so is his wrestling. BJPenn couldn't sub GSP off his back and he's better than Diaz in the BJJ world.
Cardio I find it hard to believe anyone can go against GSP on this too, he is a workout/cardio machine, plus through the fact that he is about 20-25 lbs bigger than Diaz and Diaz will have to carry his weight up against the cage or on the mat, Diaz will be the first to get tired in my opinion. However, Diaz's cardio is nuts as well, at best they are even here.
Chin-only thing that hands down Diaz has, he can take a beating and GSP has shown that he can not.

I see this fight being a highly technical ground battle...and on the ground no one at 170 can match GSP.

Not saying you're wrong about the ground game but GSP refused to jump into the guard of Jake Shields several times in their fight and Diaz is just as dangerous as Shields is on the ground. What makes this fight intriguing is that GSP has no comfort zone whether on the feet or on the ground. Diaz is dangerous everywhere, where as GSP knew he was in no danger on the feet against Shields.
Jul 21, 2011 2:03pm
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Jul 21, 2011 9:56 PM
robj55;836786 wrote:Not saying you're wrong about the ground game but GSP refused to jump into the guard of Jake Shields several times in their fight and Diaz is just as dangerous as Shields is on the ground. What makes this fight intriguing is that GSP has no comfort zone whether on the feet or on the ground. Diaz is dangerous everywhere, where as GSP knew he was in no danger on the feet against Shields.

He didnt jump in shields guard because gsp had a big advantage standing.

You want to see a fighter gsp has fought like Diaz watch bjpenn. Bjp has better bjj slightly lower boxing technique but much more power than diaz. Gsp had no qualms about taking bjp down.

Diaz is an undersized ww just like bjp too.
Jul 21, 2011 5:56pm
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Jul 22, 2011 1:58 AM
jmog;837047 wrote:He didnt jump in shields guard because gsp had a big advantage standing.

You want to see a fighter gsp has fought like Diaz watch bjpenn. Bjp has better bjj slightly lower boxing technique but much more power than diaz. Gsp had no qualms about taking bjp down.

Diaz is an undersized ww just like bjp too.

That's pretty much what I was saying
Jul 21, 2011 9:58pm
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Jul 22, 2011 4:45 PM
Upcoming cards with big fights listed:

UFC on Versus 5 - August 14th on Versus from Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Dan Hardy vs. Chris Lytle
Ben Henderson vs. Jim Miller
Charles Oliveira vs. Donald Cerrone
Amir Sadollah vs. Duane Ludwig

UFC 134 - August 27th on PPV from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Anderson Silva (c) vs. Yushin Okami II for Middleweight Title
Forrest Griffin vs. Shogun Rua II
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Brendan Schaub

Strikeforce 36 - September 10th on Showtime from Cincinnati, Ohio
Jacare Souza (c) vs. Luke Rockhold for Middleweight Title
Antonio Silva vs. Daniel Cormier in Strikeforce Grand Prix Semifinal
Sergei Kharitonov vs. Josh Barnett in Strikeforce Grand Prix Semifinal
Muhammad Lawal vs. Roger Gracie
Josh Thompson vs. Maximo Blanco

UFC Fight Night: Shields vs. Ellenberger - September 17th on Spike TV from New Orleans, Louisiana
Jake Shields vs. Jake Ellenberger
Alan Belcher vs. Jason MacDonald
Dong Yi Yang vs. Court McGee

UFC 135 - September 24th on PPV from Denver, Colorado
Jon Jones (c) vs. Rampage Jackson for Light Heavyweight Title
Matt Hughes vs. Diego Sanchez
Takanori Gomi vs. Nate Diaz
Ben Rothwell vs. Mark Hunt

UFC on Versus 6 - October 1st on Versus from Washington, D.C.
Dominick Cruz (c) vs. Demetrious Johnson for Bantamweight Title
Pat Barry vs. Stefan Struve
Charlie Brennaman vs. Anthony Johnson
Matt Wiman vs. Mac Danzig II

UFC 136 - October 8th on PPV from Houston, Texas
Frank Edgar (c) vs. Gray Maynard III for Lightweight Title
Jose Aldo (c) vs. Kenny Florian for Featherweight Title
Brian Stann vs. Chael Sonnen
Melvin Guillard vs. Joe Lauzon
Demian Maia vs. Jorge Santiago

UFC 137 - October 29th on PPV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Georges St-Pierre (c) vs. Nick Diaz for UFC Welterweight Title
B.J. Penn vs. Carlos Condit
Cheick Kongo vs. Matt Mitrione
Mirko Cro Cop vs. Roy Nelson
Denis Siver vs. Sam Stout

UFC 138 - November 5th on PPV/Spike TV from Birmingham, England
Chris Leben vs. Mark Munoz
Thiago Alves vs. Papy Abedi

UFC 139 - November 19th on PPV from San Jose, California
Cain Velasquez (c) vs. Junior dos Santos for Heavyweight Title
Urijah Faber vs. Brian Bowles

The Ultimate Fighter 14 Finale - December 3rd on Spike TV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Jason Miller vs. Michael Bisping
Finalist #1 vs. Finalist #2

UFC 140 - December 10th on PPV from Toronto, Ontario, Canada
TBA
Jul 22, 2011 12:45pm
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Jul 22, 2011 4:52 PM
Pumped for next Saturday's Strikeforce show, 133 for Rashad and Tito, 134, 135, 136, and 137.
Jul 22, 2011 12:52pm
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Jul 22, 2011 5:39 PM
bigdaddy2003;837787 wrote:Pumped for next Saturday's Strikeforce show, 133 for Rashad and Tito, 134, 135, 136, and 137.

Definitely man! That strikeforce card is loaded, they have been putting on real quality fights this past year.
Jul 22, 2011 1:39pm
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Jul 27, 2011 3:27 PM
I am pumped for Fedor and Hendo! Getting closer.
Jul 27, 2011 11:27am
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Jul 27, 2011 3:39 PM
bigdaddy2003;843007 wrote:I am pumped for Fedor and Hendo! Getting closer.

Think I am just gonna order showtime for a month Sat morning as this is one I want to see
Jul 27, 2011 11:39am
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Jul 27, 2011 4:15 PM
Yeah man I wouldn't have Showtime if it wasn't for the fact that I got it free for a year.
Jul 27, 2011 12:15pm
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Jul 28, 2011 4:52 PM
overeem is over rated anyway
Jul 28, 2011 12:52pm
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Jul 28, 2011 9:05 PM
Leonardo;837760 wrote:Dominick Cruz to defend Bantamweight Title against Demetrious Johnson at UFC on Versus 6:
http://mmajunkie.com/news/24517/champ-dominick-cruz-defends-title-against-demetrious-johnson-at-ufc-on-versus-6.mma

Is this the first time a UFC title will be defended live on free TV?

Henderson vs Rampage for the title was free here since the fight was in England.

I really hope Henderson wins tomorrow.
Jul 28, 2011 5:05pm