Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Dec 5, 2011 10:48am
Disagree. I think those soccer studs are the same type of personality that would have won state if coach put them in at QB. Anyone who was really a star soccer player in high school could dribble circles around a non-soccer player.Manhattan Buckeye;1002648 wrote:At that level soccer is the easiest....this is from empirical evidence having gone to college with guys that were "soccer studs" in HS.....hilarious how angry they'd get in intramurals when guys that never handled a soccer ball in their life would force them into a 0-0 tie. All you have to do is be faster than them and kick the ball away constantly.
Every sport has one of those guys that thinks he is better than he really was.
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Dec 5, 2011 10:58am
Baseball and basketball are JUST as popular with little kids. The same things happen in those sports. C'mon...they put baseballs on tees and give a kid 10 swings to hit it! All youth sports are based on kids running around, having fun, and learning motor skills.Zoltan;1002665 wrote:Soccer is the easiest sport to play and not get embarrased. It's easy to blend in, run around, and just be part of the game. This is why it's so popular with little kids. Everyone can run around and have fun and little Johnny doesn't have to strike out in front of everyone.
Got that right. Football happens to have the most of them. Just go to any local bar and you'll hear the "has beens" talking about the "good ol' days" when they beat their rivals. I've only seen one sport produce a guy who wore his varsity letter jacket 7-8 years after he had graduated -- that was football. Was at a mall in 2001-02 with my buddy and there was a guy walking around in a '94-95 varsity letter jacket with his football letter on it.Fly4Fun;1002672 wrote:Disagree. I think those soccer studs are the same type of personality that would have won state if coach put them in at QB. Anyone who was really a star soccer player in high school could dribble circles around a non-soccer player.
Every sport has one of those guys that thinks he is better than he really was.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Dec 5, 2011 11:03am
" Anyone who was really a star soccer player in high school could dribble circles around a non-soccer player."
They can dribble all they want, they aren't scoring, especially when I keep kicking the ball 50 yards down the field or out of bounds. At least in basketball there are rules that force you to try to score. In soccer I can be a jackass and as Zoltan explained disrupt the game by not trying to score and being a PITA. I'm not winning, but as long as I'm bigger and faster the opponent isn't scoring, especially if there is a highly athletic goalkeeper.
Again I have empirical evidence of this, I didn't touch a soccer ball until college and could keep the prep school boys from scoring....they couldn't say the same thing in basketball because the rules force you to do things - 10 seconds to get to half-court, five second rule while being guarded, etc.
They can dribble all they want, they aren't scoring, especially when I keep kicking the ball 50 yards down the field or out of bounds. At least in basketball there are rules that force you to try to score. In soccer I can be a jackass and as Zoltan explained disrupt the game by not trying to score and being a PITA. I'm not winning, but as long as I'm bigger and faster the opponent isn't scoring, especially if there is a highly athletic goalkeeper.
Again I have empirical evidence of this, I didn't touch a soccer ball until college and could keep the prep school boys from scoring....they couldn't say the same thing in basketball because the rules force you to do things - 10 seconds to get to half-court, five second rule while being guarded, etc.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Dec 5, 2011 11:24am
Same applies to soccer... there are rules which prevent you from fouling. But in a pick up game or rec league, most likely wouldn't be called as such.Manhattan Buckeye;1002700 wrote:" Anyone who was really a star soccer player in high school could dribble circles around a non-soccer player."
They can dribble all they want, they aren't scoring, especially when I keep kicking the ball 50 yards down the field or out of bounds. At least in basketball there are rules that force you to try to score. In soccer I can be a jackass and as Zoltan explained disrupt the game by not trying to score and being a PITA. I'm not winning, but as long as I'm bigger and faster the opponent isn't scoring, especially if there is a highly athletic goalkeeper.
Again I have empirical evidence of this, I didn't touch a soccer ball until college and could keep the prep school boys from scoring....they couldn't say the same thing in basketball because the rules force you to do things - 10 seconds to get to half-court, five second rule while being guarded, etc.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Dec 5, 2011 11:33am
I'm a little late to the party, but based on the OP I'm going to say grammar is the toughest sport.
password
Posts: 2,360
Dec 5, 2011 11:58am
I don't think they were soccer studs or they would have embarrassed you. The same can be said for all sports, a sports stud will embarrass everyone that has not played their sport. Could someone who never played baseball hit a 91 mph inside fastball, could a kid who never played football tackle a 235 lb fullback or block a rushing linebacker, No they would not. Every sport is considered easy to some kids and hard to others so there is no right or wrong answer on which sport is easy.Manhattan Buckeye;1002648 wrote:At that level soccer is the easiest....this is from empirical evidence having gone to college with guys that were "soccer studs" in HS.....hilarious how angry they'd get in intramurals when guys that never handled a soccer ball in their life would force them into a 0-0 tie. All you have to do is be faster than them and kick the ball away constantly.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Dec 5, 2011 12:07pm
Does that mean we can know all agreed?password;1002794 wrote: Every sport is considered easy to some kids and hard to others so there is no right or wrong answer on which sport is easy.
password
Posts: 2,360
Dec 5, 2011 1:15pm
This is the OC, we can never agree.FatHobbit;1002806 wrote:Does that mean we can know all agreed?
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Dec 5, 2011 3:33pm
My opinions...Dr.Pizza;1002158 wrote:I dont get why every one makes such a big deal out of how hard baseball is. Someone Baseball fans always say hitting a 80mph(miles per hours) fastball is the hardest thing in sports.
I've have been to the batting cages before and I've have been able to hit 80mph(miles per hours). Also, they always say that feilding a ground ball requires a whole lot of agilities and talent but I dont' think it would that hard! Does anyone agree that baseball is not baseball is not that hard of a sport? If it was so hard, then why do portoricans accell at baseball so much!?
You're thoughts
1. You are grammatically challenged.
2. You have your analogy wrong. Most baseball fans say hitting an 80 MPH CURVEBALL is the hardest thing in sports. 80 MPH fastball is seen at the high school level, not that impressive.
3. They are right, hitting an 80 MPH curveball is the hardest single normal act to do in sports.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Dec 5, 2011 3:44pm
You obviously have never really tried hitting a good curveball, even a HS level curveball.I Wear Pants;1002267 wrote:GTFOOHWTS
You serious? Baseball is in your top five toughest sports and is above hockey?
/madbro
I'm sorry, but while other sports are most definitely harder physically on your body, no typical act in any sport is harder than hitting in baseball. There's a reason you are an all star if you are successful 30% of the time at hitting. The physics of taking a cylinder (bat) and hitting a curving sphere (ball) is crazy.
Now, what sport is most physically and athletically difficult? I go with wrestling, no doubt about it.
said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Dec 5, 2011 4:01pm
Track and XC are probably the easiest to do but the hardest to excel in.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Dec 5, 2011 4:03pm
I'd say wrestling is the hardest to excel in to be honest.said_aouita;1003191 wrote:Track and XC are probably the easiest to do but the hardest to excel in.
said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Dec 5, 2011 4:14pm
I've heard this many times before too. Been dozens of 4x state champs in wrestling. Not one 4x state champ ever in XC for the state of Ohio.jmog;1003195 wrote:I'd say wrestling is the hardest to excel in to be honest.
You can win a state title in wrestling (even a national title) just on pure talent while being "lazy" in practice. You could never do this in distance running or XC. Wrestling has an "off-season" where you can do nothing and not dramatically effect your ability to be successful in the sport, unlike distance running.
Too many intangibles in distance running....
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Dec 5, 2011 4:29pm
Your whole paragraph shows me you know nothing about wrestling, and this is coming from someone who hated wrestling in HS.said_aouita;1003211 wrote:I've heard this many times before too. Been dozens of 4x state champs in wrestling. Not one 4x state champ ever in XC for the state of Ohio.
You can win a state title in wrestling (even a national title) just on pure talent while being "lazy" in practice. You could never do this in distance running or XC. Wrestling has an "off-season" where you can do nothing and not dramatically effect your ability to be successful in the sport, unlike distance running.
Too many intangibles in distance running....
You don't have 4x state champions in XC because there is only one state champ per division.
In wrestling there are 3 divisions and 14 weight classes per division. That is 42 state champions every season. XC has 3 state champions per season...HUGE difference.
If you believe that ANY of the 4x state champions in history did not wrestle all year long then again, you don't understand the sport. To get that good kids start wrestling all year long at the age of 5 and 6, not even waiting until HS.
My one son loves wrestling, he's 8 right now. Even at the youth age there are wrestling tournaments all year long. They are spread out more come summer, but you can easily wrestle at 2 or more tournaments a month all year long easily even for little kids.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Dec 5, 2011 4:31pm
yeah anyone can run around in a pufffuck league and not have skill...i'd make a bet that becoming a good soccer player takes a lot more skill and is harder to do than a lot of sports. just my opinion though after playing almost every sport there is. Takes a lot of skill to run at fulll speed controllin the ball with your feet. then again, it's your opinion though, so i guess more power to ya.Zoltan;1002665 wrote:Soccer is the easiest sport to play and not get embarrased. It's easy to blend in, run around, and just be part of the game. This is why it's so popular with little kids. Everyone can run around and have fun and little Johnny doesn't have to strike out in front of everyone.
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Dec 5, 2011 4:33pm
I think a 95MPH fastball is harder to hit. A 80MPH curveball is only hard to hit after seeing a 90+ Fastball. If you throw both pitches 100 times in a row, a baseball player will hit the curveball better I would think. I think a 90+ Splitter or hard slider would also be harder to hit than a 80 MPH curve.jmog;1003141 wrote:My opinions...
1. You are grammatically challenged.
2. You have your analogy wrong. Most baseball fans say hitting an 80 MPH CURVEBALL is the hardest thing in sports. 80 MPH fastball is seen at the high school level, not that impressive.
3. They are right, hitting an 80 MPH curveball is the hardest single normal act to do in sports.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Dec 5, 2011 7:55pm
Who needs to control the ball? I just need to knock it away from you, and my favorite trick is booting the ball out of bounds over and over again while the soccer nerds curse at me because I'm not playing "fair".DeyDurkie5;1003226 wrote:yeah anyone can run around in a puff**** league and not have skill...i'd make a bet that becoming a good soccer player takes a lot more skill and is harder to do than a lot of sports. just my opinion though after playing almost every sport there is. Takes a lot of skill to run at fulll speed controllin the ball with your feet. then again, it's your opinion though, so i guess more power to ya.
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Dec 5, 2011 8:09pm
I don't think you are really playing with true "soccer nerds." If you were, they wouldn't be saying that kicking the ball out of play is "fair" or "unfair." Heck, if I were on your team I'd be annoyed...kicking the ball out of play does nothing but give the ball back to the other team. That makes no sense. So, in essence, you are really not doing much to help your own team.Manhattan Buckeye;1003441 wrote:Who needs to control the ball? I just need to knock it away from you, and my favorite trick is booting the ball out of bounds over and over again while the soccer nerds curse at me because I'm not playing "fair".
And, you used the term "booting." Probably one of the worst "soccer parent" terms that is used.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 5, 2011 8:22pm
lolOSH;1003452 wrote:And, you used the term "booting." Probably one of the worst "soccer parent" terms that is used.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Dec 5, 2011 8:27pm
One guy was Texas all-state at Memorial high school (Houston) and turned down some Div-I schollies to go my college - he was my roommate for two years. Thing is some of us non-soccer guys in our frat were more athletic than the soccer guys and could just keep them from scoring the entire time. That is my point. At most they might beat us 1-0 or good heavens 2-0 in a regulation game. We aren't scoring on them barring a miracle, but we aren't trying to score, we can just stop them. They can nutmeg, nuthug, dribble on each other all they want, as soon as one of us gets an opportunity to kick the living crap out of the ball in the other direction we do.OSH;1003452 wrote:I don't think you are really playing with true "soccer nerds." If you were, they wouldn't be saying that kicking the ball out of play is "fair" or "unfair." Heck, if I were on your team I'd be annoyed...kicking the ball out of play does nothing but give the ball back to the other team. That makes no sense. So, in essence, you are really not doing much to help your own team.
And, you used the term "booting." Probably one of the worst "soccer parent" terms that is used.
In basketball, we pick our score because they can't disrupt the game and the skill level/rules dictate that even trying to hijack the game results in scoring opportunities for the opposition.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Dec 5, 2011 8:41pm
yeah they still won. what's your point? If you don't like soccer fine, but it's still hard as shit to master. And I'll bet anything you were awful and loooked retarded/awkward as hell out there.Manhattan Buckeye;1003478 wrote:One guy was Texas all-state at Memorial high school (Houston) and turned down some Div-I schollies to go my college - he was my roommate for two years. Thing is some of us non-soccer guys in our frat were more athletic than the soccer guys and could just keep them from scoring the entire time. That is my point. At most they might beat us 1-0 or good heavens 2-0 in a regulation game. We aren't scoring on them barring a miracle, but we aren't trying to score, we can just stop them. They can nutmeg, nuthug, dribble on each other all they want, as soon as one of us gets an opportunity to kick the living crap out of the ball in the other direction we do.
In basketball, we pick our score because they can't disrupt the game and the skill level/rules dictate that even trying to hijack the game results in scoring opportunities for the opposition.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Dec 5, 2011 8:45pm
I'm sure I looked awful, that's why soccer is the easiest sport, you can be awful and be competitive.DeyDurkie5;1003490 wrote:yeah they still won. what's your point? If you don't like soccer fine, but it's still hard as **** to master. And I'll bet anything you were awful and loooked retarded/awkward as hell out there.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Dec 5, 2011 8:48pm
one foot in front of the other, head up, whoosh arms back and forth and you have cross country. kindly go fuck yourselfccrunner609;1003495 wrote:lol at soccer being hard to master????
8 year old girls can play soccer......cant be that hard.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Dec 5, 2011 8:49pm
you dont get what im trying to say. so ill just leave this convo for now.Manhattan Buckeye;1003497 wrote:I'm sure I looked awful, that's why soccer is the easiest sport, you can be awful and be competitive.
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Dec 5, 2011 8:51pm
People can run without legs...so, running can't be that hard.ccrunner609;1003495 wrote:lol at soccer being hard to master????
8 year old girls can play soccer......cant be that hard.
So, out of the guys, you mentioned 1 all-state player. That's not too many "soccer nerds" that you played against. Now, I am not asking you to list all the players there...but that really didn't prove a point. You can be awful and competitive in just about any sport. Look through some of the awful NBA/college players...yet they are in the league/compete for MANY years. I was an awful hitter in baseball, but I could field...so I still was competitive. Your story, while I still don't agree with it being an "easy sport...you can be awful and competitive," was successful for you, is not commonplace. It's rare. Just like any other sport being plugged into that same story/situation.Manhattan Buckeye;1003497 wrote:I'm sure I looked awful, that's why soccer is the easiest sport, you can be awful and be competitive.