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Dec 6, 2011 8:30 AM
sherm03;1003659 wrote:Just boycotting the BCS Championship game won't do ****, as they will still be pulling in ratings from all the other bowls.
So BCS people are just going to look at their awful ratings to their biggest game and just go, "oh well...we'll get em next year"?
Dec 6, 2011 8:30am
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Dec 6, 2011 9:13 AM
se-alum;1003878 wrote:Why would that matter? It's easy to see why OSU might have a let down, knowing they should be playing in a NCG, and not a bowl nobody outside of Stillwater will know they won or lost in a few years.
This excuse only works in the SEC(see Utah against Bama)
Dec 6, 2011 9:13am
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Dec 6, 2011 9:14 AM
enigmaax;1003880 wrote:I think it is funny that Petersen said that. The answer has never changed for Boise - go undefeated, win your conference, be the highest ranked non-AQ school. And be ****ing glad you get treated so good for winning one game a year against anything more than schedule filler for every single other school that wants to be in a BCS game.
Sounds exactly like Bama this year.
Dec 6, 2011 9:14am
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Dec 6, 2011 9:21 AM
sleeper;1003939 wrote:Sounds exactly like Bama this year.
Although there's a big difference, I'm sure Bama is grateful.
Dec 6, 2011 9:21am
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Dec 6, 2011 10:08 AM
SportsAndLady;1003900 wrote:You seriously don't think that if the ratings suck this year coupled with coaches now starting to speak out against the system...they won't make a change? With how popular college football is right now, having bad ratings means you are fucking up, which means you need to make a change.
Yes...I seriously think that if the ratings suck this year they will not scrap the whole deal during this offseason. You seriously think they are going to be able to scrap the BCS, come to an agreement on a playoff scenario that all conferences agree on, solidify TV deals and site coordination, and have that system ready to go for next year...all in one offseason?

It's sports. Poor ratings mean that people don't like the match-up. It happens every year, in every sport...sometimes people don't tune in to a championship game because they don't like the teams. But the BCS is more than just the NCG...if you guys hate the BCS so much and want it to change, you better not watch the Rose Bowl either. Don't tune in to the Fiesta Bowl. Don't watch the Orange Bowl. Every year one of those has lower ratings than the others. The BCS is going to look at it as a whole to determine a loss or gain. Not just one individual game.
Dec 6, 2011 10:08am
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Dec 6, 2011 10:12 AM
SportsAndLady;1003905 wrote:So BCS people are just going to look at their awful ratings to their biggest game and just go, "oh well...we'll get em next year"?
A business does not (or at least should not) over-react to a single bad year. Should interest decline over the next several years, one would expect changes to be made.
Dec 6, 2011 10:12am
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Dec 6, 2011 10:13 AM
sherm03;1004033 wrote:Yes...I seriously think that if the ratings suck this year they will not scrap the whole deal during this offseason. You seriously think they are going to be able to scrap the BCS, come to an agreement on a playoff scenario that all conferences agree on, solidify TV deals and site coordination, and have that system ready to go for next year...all in one offseason?
It'll do a lot more good than bad if you want the system to change. Good ratings=BCS forever

Bad ratings + coaches bitching=change

It's really not that hard, do comedians go to college?
Dec 6, 2011 10:13am
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Dec 6, 2011 10:28 AM
SportsAndLady;1004042 wrote:It'll do a lot more good than bad if you want the system to change. Good ratings=BCS forever

Bad ratings + coaches bitching=change

It's really not that hard, do comedians go to college?
Actually yes. Most do. But I'm not sure how that applies to this conversation.

But bad ratings (for one game) for one year =/= change. There are more than just one game associated with the BCS.

Now if you had said: bad ratings for all the BCS bowls, for a few years in a row = change...then I would have agreed. But if you think bad ratings for this one NCG will somehow evoke all this change, you're just plain wrong.

It's really not that hard, do retards go to college?
Dec 6, 2011 10:28am
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Dec 6, 2011 10:54 AM
sherm03;1004066 wrote:Actually yes. Most do. But I'm not sure how that applies to this conversation.

But bad ratings (for one game) for one year =/= change. There are more than just one game associated with the BCS.

Now if you had said: bad ratings for all the BCS bowls, for a few years in a row = change...then I would have agreed. But if you think bad ratings for this one NCG will somehow evoke all this change, you're just plain wrong.

It's really not that hard, do retards go to college?
Bad ratings + coaches/media talking, can absolutely be a jumpstart to change. Will it happen in a year, of course not, and I'm not sure anyone ever said it would. However, coaches are starting to talk, as more and more teams are backing into BCS games. Va. Tech? Really? Didn't have a win over a top 25 team, and didn't win their conference. How they get into a pool for a BCS game, I have no idea. UM, nice comeback year, deserving of a BCS game? No chance. It's not just the NCG, it's the whole system which has gotten worse, instead of better, over the past few years. It's never going to be perfect, but it has to get better than this. I even stated this back when Ohio State got into the NCG against LSU, there's no way they deserved to be in the NCG, but they lost earlier than the teams ahead of them, so they backed in. It's a terribly flawed system.
Dec 6, 2011 10:54am
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Dec 6, 2011 10:54 AM
sherm03;1004066 wrote:Actually yes. Most do. But I'm not sure how that applies to this conversation.

But bad ratings (for one game) for one year =/= change. There are more than just one game associated with the BCS.

Now if you had said: bad ratings for all the BCS bowls, for a few years in a row = change...then I would have agreed. But if you think bad ratings for this one NCG will somehow evoke all this change, you're just plain wrong.

It's really not that hard, do retards go to college?
Actually yes. Most do. But I'm not sure how that applies to this conversation.

And the bad ratings have to start somewhere..so people don't watch this game, the BCS people will take notice. Then all these coaches start bashing the system and the NCAA will take notice. Then it happens again the next year. They'll change.

And queencity, this isn't the first time the NCAA realizes people hate the system. It's not just "one bad year" of the BCS..it's been a decade worth of stupidity, and this is sort of the nail in the coffin.
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Dec 6, 2011 11:14 AM
SportsAndLady;1004104 wrote: And queencity, this isn't the first time the NCAA realizes people hate the system. It's not just "one bad year" of the BCS..it's been a decade worth of stupidity, and this is sort of the nail in the coffin.
The next time that college football fans show their disapproval of the BCS by their actions will be the first. Words are meaningless, votes = dollars.

If you ran a business, and every customer told you he hated your product while at the same time handing over his wallet, what would you do?
Dec 6, 2011 11:14am
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Dec 6, 2011 11:21 AM
se-alum;1004103 wrote:Will it happen in a year, of course not, and I'm not sure anyone ever said it would.
SportsAndLady did when he said you just have to sacrifice one championship game and change will happen. I am simply pointing out that the BCS makes money off of the other bowls as well...so sacrificing this one game won't do much except make them say, "well shit, probably shouldn't let two teams from the same conference in the title game anymore."

And I'm not saying the system is perfect, and isn't flawed. But it's not designed to give the fans a "true" national champion. It's designed to take the top two teams from the poll (which the BCS is) and have them play for a title that the NCAA doesn't even recognize. All the while, the conferences make money.
SportsAndLady;1004104 wrote:Actually yes. Most do. But I'm not sure how that applies to this conversation.

And the bad ratings have to start somewhere..so people don't watch this game, the BCS people will take notice. Then all these coaches start bashing the system and the NCAA will take notice. Then it happens again the next year. They'll change.

And queencity, this isn't the first time the NCAA realizes people hate the system. It's not just "one bad year" of the BCS..it's been a decade worth of stupidity, and this is sort of the nail in the coffin.
Nobody is changing anything for at least another three years after this. That's when ESPN's conference with the BCS is up again. The only reason why coaches and schools are upset right now is because the championship pits two teams from the same conference. It's funny, because that would probably happen a lot more with a playoff.

But with ESPN pumping in an extra $125 million a year that gets distributed to the major six conferences, the smaller conferences, and ND (all of this on top of what the BCS already splits - $142.5 million last year)...I'm sure the schools and coaches will settle down a little after their checks come in.
Dec 6, 2011 11:21am
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Dec 6, 2011 11:33 AM
queencitybuckeye;1004155 wrote:The next time that college football fans show their disapproval of the BCS by their actions will be the first. Words are meaningless, votes = dollars.

If you ran a business, and every customer told you he hated your product while at the same time handing over his wallet, what would you do?
I'd improve my product...seems like a simple answer.

People are always going to watch, why not improve the product to strengthen your brand?
Dec 6, 2011 11:33am
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Dec 6, 2011 11:41 AM
SportsAndLady;1004191 wrote:I'd improve my product...seems like a simple answer.

People are always going to watch, why not improve the product to strengthen your brand?
No need when there is a.) no competition, and b.) companies like ESPN paying you hundreds of millions of dollars to get exclusive rights to show your product.
Dec 6, 2011 11:41am
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Dec 6, 2011 11:46 AM
SportsAndLady;1004191 wrote:I'd improve my product...seems like a simple answer.

People are always going to watch, why not improve the product to strengthen your brand?
Incorrect answer. If you are maximizing your income, you do not fuck with success.
Dec 6, 2011 11:46am
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Dec 7, 2011 8:21 AM
queencitybuckeye;1004206 wrote:Incorrect answer. If you are maximizing your income, you do not **** with success.
Maximizing your income? How do you know they are maximizing their income right now? College football can only get more popular..you seriously do not think with a playoff system college football wouldn't become more popular than it is today?
Dec 7, 2011 8:21am
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Dec 7, 2011 8:39 AM
jordo212000;1003870 wrote:People will question the tagline "every game counts" and the fact that every week is a playoff. LSU already beat them in Alabama. It is a joke that they have to beat them again
If it were a literal playoff, LSU would be champs without need to play. They are the only undefeated team.
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Dec 7, 2011 8:40 AM
SportsAndLady;1003905 wrote:So BCS people are just going to look at their awful ratings to their biggest game and just go, "oh well...we'll get em next year"?
If I watch or don't watch, the BCS will have no idea.
Dec 7, 2011 8:40am
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Dec 7, 2011 8:43 AM
WebFire;1005251 wrote:If I watch or don't watch, the BCS will have no idea.
That isn't what I said moron.

I said if the ratings were bad...obviously just you won't affect the ratings at all..but if enough people like you don't watch..
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Dec 7, 2011 8:44 AM
SportsAndLady;1005255 wrote:That isn't what I said moron.

I said if the ratings were bad...obviously just you won't affect the ratings at all..but if enough people like you don't watch..
Wrong. Everyone in my town could not watch. If they don't have a Nielsen box, no difference.
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Dec 7, 2011 8:46 AM
se-alum;1002663 wrote:I think VA Tech/UM is a worse game than the Orange Bowl. Va Tech in no way, shape, or form deserved a BCS game, and MSU deserved a BCS bid over UM.
I could buy into this if you simply said "UM didn't deserve a bowl bid." I might still disagree, but it would be more accurate. MSU does not deserve a BCS bid.
Dec 7, 2011 8:46am
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Dec 7, 2011 8:52 AM
WebFire;1005259 wrote:Wrong. Everyone in my town could not watch. If they don't have a Nielsen box, no difference.
Again, I'm not talking about your fucking town

Like, is this serious?
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Dec 7, 2011 9:04 AM
SportsAndLady;1005270 wrote:Again, I'm not talking about your fucking town

Like, is this serious?
Do you know where they get ratings from?

Is this serious?
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Dec 7, 2011 9:08 AM
And, if you aren't talking about me or my town, then quit fucking telling me not to watch it!
Dec 7, 2011 9:08am
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Dec 7, 2011 9:34 AM
WebFire;1005282 wrote:Do you know where they get ratings from?

Is this serious?
WebFire;1005288 wrote:And, if you aren't talking about me or my town, then quit ****ing telling me not to watch it!
I'm talking about a general population. Not anything specific. If some shitty ohio town you are from doesn't watch the game, obviously it won't affect anything..but say a million less people watch this year than normal, that would do something (the million number is just a guess..I don't know exactly how many the dent would be)
Dec 7, 2011 9:34am