krambman
Posts: 3,606
Dec 4, 2011 12:47am
This is the most open race in recent history. Voters get to rank three players on their ballots. If you were a voter, what would your ballot look like? Here's mine.
1. Robert Griffin III
2. Tyrann Matheiu
3. Monte Ball
Here is how I would rank the rest of the contenders.
4. Trent Richardson
5. Matt Barkley
6. Andrew Luck
7. Case Keenum
8. LaMichael James
9. Kellen Moore
10. Justin Blackmon
REMEMBER: The specific criteria given to actual Heisman voters is to vote for who they believe to be the "most outstanding player in college football this year." Keep this in mind while filling out your list.
1. Robert Griffin III
2. Tyrann Matheiu
3. Monte Ball
Here is how I would rank the rest of the contenders.
4. Trent Richardson
5. Matt Barkley
6. Andrew Luck
7. Case Keenum
8. LaMichael James
9. Kellen Moore
10. Justin Blackmon
REMEMBER: The specific criteria given to actual Heisman voters is to vote for who they believe to be the "most outstanding player in college football this year." Keep this in mind while filling out your list.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 4, 2011 12:48am
RG3
Ball
Mathieu
Richardson
Keenum
Ball
Mathieu
Richardson
Keenum
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Dec 4, 2011 12:53am
1. Robert Griffin III
2. Montee Ball
3. Andrew Luck
Tyrann Matheiu is an insane addition...plays well but let's face it he's about as stupid as box of rocks, hell he threw the ball to the official before he crossed the line completely tonight. Not to mention the off the field crap.
I would include Richardson were it not for the fact that he didn't get to play today, I think that will hurt his chances though he may still get an invite.
2. Montee Ball
3. Andrew Luck
Tyrann Matheiu is an insane addition...plays well but let's face it he's about as stupid as box of rocks, hell he threw the ball to the official before he crossed the line completely tonight. Not to mention the off the field crap.
I would include Richardson were it not for the fact that he didn't get to play today, I think that will hurt his chances though he may still get an invite.
End of Line
Posts: 6,867
Dec 4, 2011 12:59am
1. RGIII
2. Montee Ball
3. Andrew Luck
2. Montee Ball
3. Andrew Luck
Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Dec 4, 2011 1:06am
1. Andre Luck
2. Robert Griffin III
3. Montee Ball
2. Robert Griffin III
3. Montee Ball
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 4, 2011 1:32am
Tobias Fünke;1000228 wrote:1. Andre Luck
2. Robert Griffin III
3. Montee Ball
Andrew luck first?
I'll agree with that idiocy if you let me out of this awful nd avatar lol
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 4, 2011 1:40am
1. RGIII - puts up insane numbers and, in my opinion, means more to his team than any other candidate. Baylor is like a 4-8 team without him.
2. Montee Ball - He would have been my #4 before tonight, he benefits from having an extra game to pad his numbers.
3. Andrew Luck - too many interceptions the 2nd half of the season for me to vote him #1, but I appreciate that he runs his offense better and does more at the line of scrimmage than some NFL quarterbacks do. Intangible stuff doesn't show up in the stats but I would consider it when voting.
Trent Richardson just misses out on my ballot. I would have had him 3 before Ball put up 4 more touchdowns tonight.
2. Montee Ball - He would have been my #4 before tonight, he benefits from having an extra game to pad his numbers.
3. Andrew Luck - too many interceptions the 2nd half of the season for me to vote him #1, but I appreciate that he runs his offense better and does more at the line of scrimmage than some NFL quarterbacks do. Intangible stuff doesn't show up in the stats but I would consider it when voting.
Trent Richardson just misses out on my ballot. I would have had him 3 before Ball put up 4 more touchdowns tonight.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 4, 2011 7:50am
RG III
Montee Ball
Andrew Luck
Trent Richardson
Montee Ball
Andrew Luck
Trent Richardson
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 4, 2011 10:40am
Mathieu had the most standout season out of all the players mentioned imo.
They might as well change the Heisman to the best offensive player award.
They might as well change the Heisman to the best offensive player award.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Dec 4, 2011 10:45am
I really can't see how anyone can put Luck in their top 3. I get he might be the best player. But he hasn't had the best year. IMO, Barkley is more deserving.
1. RG3
2. Ball
3. Richardson
1. RG3
2. Ball
3. Richardson
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 5, 2011 6:27pm
Finalists announced:
Ball
Griffin III
Luck
Mathieu
Richardson
Ball
Griffin III
Luck
Mathieu
Richardson
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 5, 2011 6:33pm
1. Ball
2. Griffin III
3. Luck
2. Griffin III
3. Luck
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 5, 2011 6:34pm
The Heisman has always been kind of a joke. I agree that it needs to simply be "The most outstanding player in CFB" not just best RB or QB.like_that;1000352 wrote:Mathieu had the most standout season out of all the players mentioned imo.
They might as well change the Heisman to the best offensive player award.
And no, TM7 does not deserve it.
V
vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 5, 2011 6:54pm
it's as follows:
1.) RGIII
2.) Richardson
3.) Luck
Ball and Mathieu are window dressing, but they did get a trip to NYC, and deservedly so :thumbup:
1.) RGIII
2.) Richardson
3.) Luck
Ball and Mathieu are window dressing, but they did get a trip to NYC, and deservedly so :thumbup:
T
that_guy
Posts: 439
Dec 5, 2011 7:07pm
For once I think each of the five finalists is very deserving. My vote would be for Griffen III, with Mathieu a close 2nd.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 5, 2011 7:08pm
RG3
Ball
Mathieu
Richardson
Luck
Ball
Mathieu
Richardson
Luck
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 5, 2011 8:22pm
Based on all Heisman projections, RGIII is going to win and it might not be that close.
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Dec 5, 2011 8:25pm
I have no idea how Richardson would/should be above Ball. It doesn't make any sense to me. Someone explain why Richardson should be above Ball.
I am not against Robert Griffin III winning. It's also going to a small school player. It's been a bit, at least to my recollection, that we've seen someone win from not a major university. Good for him and the season he's put together.
I am not against Robert Griffin III winning. It's also going to a small school player. It's been a bit, at least to my recollection, that we've seen someone win from not a major university. Good for him and the season he's put together.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 5, 2011 9:38pm
They'll tell you Richardson plays in a tougher conference and lead his team to a fraudulent NCG appearance. They always make crap up to justify mediocrity.OSH;1003477 wrote:I have no idea how Richardson would/should be above Ball. It doesn't make any sense to me. Someone explain why Richardson should be above Ball.
I am not against Robert Griffin III winning. It's also going to a small school player. It's been a bit, at least to my recollection, that we've seen someone win from not a major university. Good for him and the season he's put together.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Dec 5, 2011 9:40pm
The last "non-helmet-school" player to win was Ron Dayne in 99, or if you think Wisconsin is a helmet school, probably Rashaan Salaam in 94. Schools since 94:
USC (3)
Oklahoma (2)
Florida (2)
Ohio State (2)
Florida State (1)
Nebraska (1)
Michigan (1)
Texas (1)
Auburn (1)
Wisconsin (1)
Alabama (1)
I think RG3 should win, followed by Ball and Luck.
USC (3)
Oklahoma (2)
Florida (2)
Ohio State (2)
Florida State (1)
Nebraska (1)
Michigan (1)
Texas (1)
Auburn (1)
Wisconsin (1)
Alabama (1)
I think RG3 should win, followed by Ball and Luck.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 5, 2011 9:55pm
RGIII
Luck
Ball
Richardson
Mathieu
Luck
Ball
Richardson
Mathieu
Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Dec 5, 2011 9:55pm
non-helmet-school?gorocks99;1003576 wrote:The last "non-helmet-school" player to win was Ron Dayne in 99, or if you think Wisconsin is a helmet school, probably Rashaan Salaam in 94. Schools since 94:
USC (3)
Oklahoma (2)
Florida (2)
Ohio State (2)
Florida State (1)
Nebraska (1)
Michigan (1)
Texas (1)
Auburn (1)
Wisconsin (1)
Alabama (1)
I think RG3 should win, followed by Ball and Luck.
Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Dec 5, 2011 9:56pm
haha oh be a good sport!SportsAndLady;1000246 wrote:Andrew luck first?
I'll agree with that idiocy if you let me out of this awful nd avatar lol
But I think Andrew Luck is the best player in the country, and an absolute paragon of a student-athlete. So he gets my meaningless vote.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 5, 2011 10:06pm
Tobias Fünke;1003602 wrote:haha oh be a good sport!
But I think Andrew Luck is the best player in the country, and an absolute paragon of a student-athlete. So he gets my meaningless vote.
Ill be a good sport..just how long is this bet for anyway lol
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Dec 5, 2011 10:06pm
Anybody but Andrew Luck. The way they hyped him this year, I really don't think he was as good as advertised. RGIII would get my vote. Or Ball from Wisky.