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Walt Disney

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Oct 5, 2012 11:01 AM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1287649 wrote:It's not the size of the kids, but rather, how big the kids play. HEART goes a long way in HS football.
I agree with this completely, but if HEART1 = HEART2 and SIZE1 > SIZE2, Lineman1 usually wins.
Oct 5, 2012 11:01am
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Oct 5, 2012 12:11 PM
Walt Disney;1287714 wrote:I agree with this completely, but if HEART1 = HEART2 and SIZE1 > SIZE2, Lineman1 usually wins.
Provided DISCIPLINE1 = DISCIPLINE2, I agree.
Oct 5, 2012 12:11pm
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Oct 5, 2012 12:50 PM
I see alot of talk about kids in the weight room. But I also see alot of kids who have never been taught the proper techniquies in the weight room and most coaches do not know them. A lot of kids if you ask them what they lift they will tell you their bench press and that is what most work on almost exclusively. IMO it does not give them the strength in the legs and lower body were you really need it in the trenches.
In 2010, my sons senior year he was between 180 and 190 pounds as a D tackle. He only would lift with one other guy on the team our 6'6" 285 pound O tackle because they used the same weights. They were repping 260 on front squats and 380 on back squats. They did not learn to lift in football they learned from the track throws coach. No one else liked to do hitting drills with either of them.
During the regional game with LCC one of the major adjustments LCC did at the half was go double on him the rest of the night.
Oct 5, 2012 12:50pm
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Oct 5, 2012 2:59 PM
Go Falcons;1287758 wrote:I see alot of talk about kids in the weight room. But I also see alot of kids who have never been taught the proper techniquies in the weight room and most coaches do not know them. A lot of kids if you ask them what they lift they will tell you their bench press and that is what most work on almost exclusively. IMO it does not give them the strength in the legs and lower body were you really need it in the trenches.
In 2010, my sons senior year he was between 180 and 190 pounds as a D tackle. He only would lift with one other guy on the team our 6'6" 285 pound O tackle because they used the same weights. They were repping 260 on front squats and 380 on back squats. They did not learn to lift in football they learned from the track throws coach. No one else liked to do hitting drills with either of them.
During the regional game with LCC one of the major adjustments LCC did at the half was go double on him the rest of the night.
Ya. I'm always surprised by this. In this day and age you'd think coaches would have this figured out better. Technique is something few teams work on or to a level that would be appropriate. With the amount kids are lifting compared to even 10 years ago... I would think this would be stressed more because of safety alone.
Oct 5, 2012 2:59pm
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Oct 5, 2012 3:21 PM
Jmar25;1287887 wrote:Ya. I'm always surprised by this. In this day and age you'd think coaches would have this figured out better. Technique is something few teams work on or to a level that would be appropriate. With the amount kids are lifting compared to even 10 years ago... I would think this would be stressed more because of safety alone.
I completely agree with you and GoFalc. When I said being in the weightroom, I meant with a very specific regimen. We were on the BFS program for three years when I was in school. I honestly recommend that any team who wants to win needs to have a specific program AND that the program be constructed by someone qualified. We only did a straight bench press once a week, spending more time with legs and core, as these are more important to most vertical sports.
Oct 5, 2012 3:21pm
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Oct 5, 2012 4:18 PM
O-Trap;1287744 wrote:Provided DISCIPLINE1 = DISCIPLINE2, I agree.
YEP YOU AGREE.
Oct 5, 2012 4:18pm
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Oct 5, 2012 4:20 PM
Paul;1287959 wrote:YEP YOU AGREE.
Oct 5, 2012 4:20pm
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Oct 5, 2012 7:49 PM
Z is king... Chipps score. 7-0.
Oct 5, 2012 7:49pm
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Oct 5, 2012 9:56 PM
This threads about to get real interesting....
Oct 5, 2012 9:56pm
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ghostrider

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Oct 5, 2012 10:10 PM
Bears end Chippewa losing streak. Chipps win 38-22?

I dont evn know wht to saye. My goodness
Oct 5, 2012 10:10pm
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Oct 5, 2012 10:15 PM
So we went with the AD's freshman son instead of your STARTING QB who was cleared to play and ready to go?!?!?!?!?!?! That right there is a coaching call! You CANNOT blame that on the boys or attitude or laziness!
Oct 5, 2012 10:15pm
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Oct 5, 2012 10:15 PM
Got rained on....
Oct 5, 2012 10:15pm
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Oct 5, 2012 10:29 PM
Buckz#1;1288155 wrote:So we went with the AD's freshman son instead of your STARTING QB who was cleared to play and ready to go?!?!?!?!?!?! That right there is a coaching call! You CANNOT blame that on the boys or attitude or laziness!
No, but 38 points is not a "who-started-at-QB" issue. That defense has some SERIOUS issues.

Any other scores around the league?
Oct 5, 2012 10:29pm
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Oct 5, 2012 10:31 PM
NW 28-17 over Hillsdale

Cats 50 something to 8 over Dalton
Oct 5, 2012 10:31pm
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855pride

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Oct 5, 2012 10:48 PM
smithville over rittman by 20+. i was not impressed with the smithies today.very sloppy play on both sides of the ball. bates not getting many carries but buss and shane doing work on the ground. the smithie recievers need to get strongers. it will be interestin to see how the green plans on slowing down the cats next week.
Oct 5, 2012 10:48pm
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Oct 5, 2012 10:54 PM
855pride;1288189 wrote: it will be interestin to see how the green plans on slowing down the cats next week.
They won't.
Oct 5, 2012 10:54pm
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Oct 5, 2012 10:55 PM
Paul_1;1288169 wrote:NW 28-17 over Hillsdale

Cats 50 something to 8 over Dalton
54-8, Norwayne is good, no doubt. I found a few things to be happy about watching my Dawgs tonight.
And glad I have a couple nephews in jr hi. It appears the Bobcat reign may be ending in a few years.
Good game all.
Oct 5, 2012 10:55pm
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855pride

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Oct 5, 2012 10:55 PM
Paul_1;1288193 wrote:They won't.
alot of thought put into that reply..... :rolleyes:
Oct 5, 2012 10:55pm
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Oct 5, 2012 10:59 PM
855pride;1288197 wrote:alot of thought put into that reply..... :rolleyes:
None needed for this game......;)
Oct 5, 2012 10:59pm
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eyes r burning

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Oct 5, 2012 11:15 PM
To coach Z, the AD and the Southeast Local Board we are there, the Brown and Gold has never looked so proud this will never be turned around, but the good old boys have jobs:thumbup:
Oct 5, 2012 11:15pm
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eyes r burning

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Oct 5, 2012 11:23 PM
Wasn't the Basketball coach that got releived of his duty's a great guy to? Who pulled the trigger on that? Could it have been the guy that is now the coach? Just so many questions only looking for some answers anyone got any insight. How about wclfan you always have the answers.
Oct 5, 2012 11:23pm
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Oct 5, 2012 11:24 PM
Congrats to Northwestern on the big win! I can't wait to read more about how it went.
Oct 5, 2012 11:24pm
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eyes r burning

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Oct 5, 2012 11:35 PM
WOW, wclfan you are trip, run and hide, you think these fans are that dumb?
Oct 5, 2012 11:35pm
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elitesmithie05

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Oct 5, 2012 11:47 PM
Heres hoping for another monsoon next friday haha
Oct 5, 2012 11:47pm