sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 29, 2011 12:05pm
Ohio State needs to play in a bowl game. Not doing so is an arrogant display that would be looked down upon any place outside of South Bend. Play the bowl game, win it, then go home and cry that you had a mediocre season(or a great season if you are Notre Dame).
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Nov 29, 2011 12:06pm
he was on one fucking kneeFab1b;992715 wrote:Shazier got tore up against UM
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Nov 29, 2011 12:12pm
I understand he was hurt, then get his ass out of there he became a liability at that point and some plays cost us there. Poor coaching on the D side this game all around.
Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Nov 29, 2011 12:19pm
This. And Shazier might even be ahead of Sweat. Probably not, but it's closer than the other way.vball10set;992711 wrote:IMO, at this stage, Sweat>Shazier>Sabino>Klein
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Nov 29, 2011 12:19pm
There are only so many players that travel and the other 2 linebackers there were a sr walk on and a freshman with 0 playing time. A hurt Shazier was probably the best option. If you paid attention to the presser, the first thing Fickell told Urban was "we need depth at Linebacker"Fab1b;992735 wrote:I understand he was hurt, then get his ass out of there he became a liability at that point and some plays cost us there. Poor coaching on the D side this game all around.
Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Nov 29, 2011 12:20pm
He had a bum knee and he's a freshman. What more did you want from him?Fab1b;992715 wrote:Shazier got tore up against UM
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Nov 29, 2011 12:34pm
I didn't get to see the presser was working but we all know we need depth at LB. I understand who travels etc...however if he is continually being beat give someone who is healthy a shot, shake things up. I just thought the D adjustments got worse after half.
jhay78
Posts: 1,917
Nov 29, 2011 12:42pm
Fixed.Fab1b;992715 wrote:Shazier played on one leg against UM
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Nov 29, 2011 12:43pm
My point Jhay78, get someone out there with two legs 
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Nov 29, 2011 12:58pm
So, I've still not seen any information on Stoneburner actually being injured.
imex99
Posts: 4,927
Nov 29, 2011 7:32pm
Only osu coaches staying on Meyers staff: FIckell
Drayton
Johnson
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se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Nov 29, 2011 7:44pm
Great if true! Those are the 3 guys I thought would fit in with an Urban Meyer staff.imex99;993448 wrote:Only osu coaches staying on Meyers staff: FIckell
Drayton
Johnson
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TwinTurbo
Posts: 23
Nov 29, 2011 7:56pm
Jordan hall maybe?Ty Webb;992312 wrote:This team is going to be really fun to watch next year in this offense...
Was reading around on another board and heard Urban is planning on moving one of the tailbacks to WR and use him like Harvin? Would that be Jamaal Berry?
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Sonofanump
Nov 30, 2011 2:02pm
Ohio State technically finished 8th in the conference. The 8th team goes to Detriot, correct?
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Nov 30, 2011 2:07pm
During the pregame last sat they talked about bowls beyond a certain point can go up or down 1 or 2 spots or something crazy like that, which is how the Gator Bowl would get OSU?Sonofanump;994912 wrote:Ohio State technically finished 8th in the conference. The 8th team goes to Detriot, correct?
I dunno, I only caught part of it and it didn't sound like they fully understood either
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Nov 30, 2011 2:10pm
You can disagree all you want. Stats and game scores tell otherwise. Shazier is a BIG TALENT. He will be a stud. But at 210, he had trouble getting off blocks. Yes he made some plays. But many were down field. Sweat was a pretty darn good LB. What, 2nd team all big ten? A senior. Again, Shazier will be VERY good. But he needs to add strength and some weight yet. I believe Sweat was what held the defense together.... somewhat. When he went out, look at the past 3 games? Not good.dat dude;992675 wrote:I'll disagree. My post wasn't to compare the impact of Sweat vs. Shazier. I'll agree that Sweat was good during the season, but to say Shazier would not be a loss at all is just silly. Assuming Sweat is back and Shazier would be healthy, I wouldn't be surprised for OSU to try and get both on the field. Shazier has proven he is a playmaker when healthy. He also has a ton of potential for a true freshman.
Good thing, I saw him at basketball game last nite and he wasn't in his sling. So I would expect him back for a bowl game, if there is one.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Nov 30, 2011 2:11pm
I don't understand why Sweat wasn't moved to Mike and leave Shazier and Sabino on the outside
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Nov 30, 2011 2:15pm
Who is Mike?LJ;994929 wrote:I don't understand why Sweat wasn't moved to Mike and leave Shazier and Sabino on the outside
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Nov 30, 2011 2:18pm
Shazier will continue to get bigger and stronger...centralbucksfan;994926 wrote:You can disagree all you want. Stats and game scores tell otherwise. Shazier is a BIG TALENT. He will be a stud. But at 210, he had trouble getting off blocks. Yes he made some plays. But many were down field. Sweat was a pretty darn good LB. What, 2nd team all big ten? A senior. Again, Shazier will be VERY good. But he needs to add strength and some weight yet. I believe Sweat was what held the defense together.... somewhat. When he went out, look at the past 3 games? Not good.
Good thing, I saw him at basketball game last nite and he wasn't in his sling. So I would expect him back for a bowl game, if there is one.
He was also playing on one leg as others have said during the scUM game
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Nov 30, 2011 2:19pm
Sam and Will's big brotherFatHobbit;994941 wrote:Who is Mike?
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Nov 30, 2011 2:34pm
Maybe because he wasn't as good as those in front of him? Thus the reason he didn't get on the field until there was an injury.LJ;994929 wrote:I don't understand why Sweat wasn't moved to Mike and leave Shazier and Sabino on the outside
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Nov 30, 2011 2:36pm
Hear me out.centralbucksfan;994964 wrote:Maybe because he wasn't as good as those in front of him? Thus the reason he didn't get on the field until there was an injury.
I think Sweat would have made a much better MLB than Klein. That leaves you with Shazier on the outside.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Nov 30, 2011 2:45pm
I understand what you are saying. I just watched Shazier pretty close. Yes, he made great plays, that made highlights. But the highlights don't show all the times he couldn't get off blocks or fill the hole at the line. The last 3 games, that was what was missing with Sweat. OSU was sliced and diced. Purdue, PSU and UM ran down their throats. Like I hadn't seen in a LONG time. It wasn't just him, I know. But the OSU defense missed Sweat quite a bit more than many realize.LJ;994968 wrote:Hear me out.
I think Sweat would have made a much better MLB than Klein. That leaves you with Shazier on the outside.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Nov 30, 2011 2:48pm
Uh, Sweat would be on the field with what i proposed.centralbucksfan;994979 wrote:I understand what you are saying. I just watched Shazier pretty close. Yes, he made great plays, that made highlights. But the highlights don't show all the times he couldn't get off blocks or fill the hole at the line. The last 3 games, that was what was missing with Sweat. OSU was sliced and diced. Purdue, PSU and UM ran down their throats. Like I hadn't seen in a LONG time. It wasn't just him, I know. But the OSU defense missed Sweat quite a bit more than many realize.
Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Dec 1, 2011 9:28am
Damnit. Not another one.FatHobbit;994941 wrote:Who is Mike?
Go hang out with SportsAndLadies.
SMH.