swamisez;991008 wrote:I can't see Duke shooting the three well enough to win this game in a hostile environment. Duke will need to be at least 12-25 from 3 to stay in this game. Buckeyes will be as amped up as a team can be I imagine. Lots of energy in the building.

OSU by 13, close game then OSU hits free throws down stretch to ice it.

Duke is one of the best 3 point shooting teams in the nation as they are shooting 46% from beyond the arc. 12-25 from 3 point land by the Blue Devils would not surprise me at all.

Go Bucks. Chance to jump to #1.

Ohio State by 15

ccrunner609;990369 wrote:Well they didnt score 82 did they moron?

As for what I think OSU will score? OSU wont want to run with Duke. Sully wont be able to play a game that will require him to run the whole game. DId you ever think that? Maybe Belmont was playing with players that like an uptempo game hence the score?

Look at the teams that play with big men.........Kansas 61 pts, Davidson 67, Tenn. 67, MSU 69.


I am no bandwagoner but you are an idiot. Read a book about basketball before questioning me.

OSU is #3 in the country, and duke isn't in the top 5. why would you think duke will dominate/win especially being AT osu? I smell me a dumbass/homer

birddog23;991104 wrote:Duke is one of the best 3 point shooting teams in the nation as they are shooting 46% from beyond the arc. 12-25 from 3 point land by the Blue Devils would not surprise me at all.

OSU is also better than duke. Duke is playing AT OSU, are you just retarded or a huge homer?

OSU won't want to run with Duke?

I lol'd. :laugh:

DeyDurkie5;991150 wrote:OSU is also better than duke.

Because they have played the most challenging schedule right?

Of course I am not sure what birddog said to prompt this response...but homers need to look in the mirror.

As an afterthought...I might see this as an issue with OSU tomorrow night.

georgemc80;991156 wrote:Because they have played the most challenging schedule right?

As an afterthought...I might see this as an issue with OSU tomorrow night.

I dont care who they played, they brought back almost all their talent. No need to even think twice about it.

Should be a great game. I think it could go either way. I'll give OSU the edge playing at home. OSU outside shooting concerns me so far this year. They are not a very good 3pt team. That being said, they are a different type of team this year, getting to the rim, and FT line. If they are able to do that vs Duke, they will be fine. Thomas and Even R. are going to need to play well. OSU will need to guard the perimeter well in this game as well. Fla came out on fire, but OSU adjusted. I thought Valpo got too many good looks as well.
Should be a fun and entertaining game. Even moreso if Urban is introduced at half.

DeyDurkie5;991161 wrote:I dont care who they played, they brought back almost all their talent. No need to even think twice about it.

They lost 3 starters. They didnt bring back almost all their talent. But they have a ton of talent, so the SRs arent missed in that regard too much.

Laley23;991193 wrote:They lost 3 starters. They didnt bring back almost all their talent. But they have a ton of talent, so the SRs arent missed in that regard too much.

nuh uh

I guess that Florida is a scrub OSU beat too arent they?

Lol at the Duke fans already complaining and making excuses about Craft fouling. Even they know that their small guards are going to lose physically to Craft's D.

I find it odd that people actually think Craft "gets away" with fouls. He locks people down, so he must be fouling? lol

His positioning on D is damn near perfect.

DeyDurkie5;991150 wrote:OSU is also better than duke. Duke is playing AT OSU, are you just retarded or a huge homer?

What point are you trying to make here? I simply stated that Duke is and has been one of the best 3 point shooting teams in the nation. Yeah I realize Duke is playing at OSU but last time I checked I believe their hoop is still 10 feet tall and their 3 point line is still 20 feet 9 inches. What is "homer" about that? I never said Duke will win by 15+ or anything like that.

Oh and your argument about Ohio State being a top 5 team and that Duke is not is simply stupid. At this point in the year rankings mean nothing, but even with the rankings in mind Duke is currently #3 in the AP poll.

As for Craft, more power to him if he can be physical with Duke's guards, I just don't think the refs will let him get away with some of it. Once again just my opinion.

DeyDurkie5;991148 wrote:OSU is #3 in the country, and duke isn't in the top 5. why would you think duke will dominate/win especially being AT osu? I smell me a dumbass/homer

What rankings are you looking at?

Edit...ESPN from last week?

birddog23;991255 wrote:What point are you trying to make here? I simply stated that Duke is and has been one of the best 3 point shooting teams in the nation. Yeah I realize Duke is playing at OSU but last time I checked I believe their hoop is still 10 feet tall and their 3 point line is still 20 feet 9 inches. What is "homer" about that? I never said Duke will win by 15+ or anything like that.

Oh and your argument about Ohio State being a top 5 team and that Duke is not is simply stupid. At this point in the year rankings mean nothing, but even with the rankings in mind Duke is currently #3 in the AP poll.

As for Craft, more power to him if he can be physical with Duke's guards, I just don't think the refs will let him get away with some of it. Once again just my opinion.

You're wasting your time. He's trolling.

birddog23;991255 wrote:As for Craft, more power to him if he can be physical with Duke's guards, I just don't think the refs will let him get away with some of it. Once again just my opinion.

get away with what? Perfect defense? again you sound like a homer

DeyDurkie5;991276 wrote:get away with what? Perfect defense? again you sound like a homer

I like Aaron Craft a lot, love the way he plays the game actually. Not many kids play with the enthusiasm and passion he does. I just feel that at times he will be more physical with guards and body them and at times hand-check. Both of which are fouls. Like I said more power to him. Duke gets away with it at times and often gets player control calls to go their way just because they have been doing it for so long. If my statements that I have made on this thread make me a "homer" then so be it.

birddog23;991286 wrote:I like Aaron Craft a lot, love the way he plays the game actually. Not many kids play with the enthusiasm and passion he does. I just feel that at times he will be more physical with guards and body them and at times hand-check. Both of which are fouls. Like I said more power to him. Duke gets away with it at times and often gets player control calls to go their way just because they have been doing it for so long. If my statements that I have made on this thread make me a "homer" then so be it.

when the opposing coach says you play perfect defense, i trust that man over some random dude on the chatter. especially a duke fan at that. get out of here with that shit

birddog23;991255 wrote:As for Craft, more power to him if he can be physical with Duke's guards, I just don't think the refs will let him get away with some of it. Once again just my opinion.

It isn't about the refs letting him get away with anything. He is unbelievable defender. Maybe one of the best I have seen at this level. His positioning and instincts, along with this latteral movement seperate him from anyone else. He will get his 2/3 fouls. But he rarely gets into foul trouble. Hand checks are comical. He rarely does this.
The only question in this game about officiating, is how much will they let Duke inside players beat up on Sullinger. That will be the difference in this game.

Duke's bigs don't really like to be too physical down low. Sullinger will get his for sure. The Plumlee's, mainly Mason, need to avoid picking up stupid fouls and giving Sullinger and one's.

Perimeter defense is the key to this game. If OSU can do a better job than they've shown in most of their games, they win. If not, Duke could leave with the W.

OSU's 3 point shooting has been awful for the most part, so far. They don't want to get into a shooting match from outside or they'll lose. OSU needs to use its superior athleticism and go to the basket. If they do this, and play the defense they're capable of playing, they win.

Duke has three post players to throw at Sullinger. I HOPE K makes a mistake and has them get physical with Sullinger. Matta would be more than happy seeing Sullinger go to the line a dozen times, he makes 85% of his foul shots. The key will be William Buford. Duke doesn't have a good match up for him. He can't go 2 for 16 again. If he gets his 20 Ohio State wins.

I'm not actually too worried about Duke's shooters in the so-called hostile Value City Arena environment. While I'm certain the Schott will be as loud as it has ever been with the Blue Devils coming to town -- Duke is the biggest draw in America wherever it plays -- Duke's players are used to having to operate in that type of frenzied and vitriol-fueled atmosphere. The Duke men's basketball team is arguably the most hated team in all of college sports in whatever arena it walks into. And that's partly because Duke's unthinkable success over the last three decades and partly because Duke's players, who are always the most targeted and despised in the sport, often rise to their best while on the road. Christian Laettner and J.J. Redick elevated the art of playing on the road to new levels. Like Reggie Miller, Duke players love being the enemy. They thrive on it. And truth be told, playing the villain is a lot of fun. I will thoroughly enjoy walking into the Schott tomorrow night lit up like a blue Christmas tree.

Some of Duke's best outside shooting performances of the last several years have come on the "road," in unfriendly and wildly raucous venues.

-9 of 20 threes in Greensboro against UNC, 2011 ACC championship (fans of the ACC know that Greensboro is Tar Heel town, and, when Duke plays there, it is Duke versus North Carolina and fans of the rest of the ACC)
-6 of 12 threes in Kansas City against Kansas State
-10 of 23 threes at Maryland, 2011
-13 of 29 threes at Miami, 2010
-9 of 18 threes at North Carolina, 2010
-8 of 19 threes Maryland, 2009
-12 of 25 threes at Florida State, 2009
-13 of 29 threes at North Carolina, 2008
-15 of 37 threes at Miami, 2008

Past performances certainly promise nothing, but Duke's players are rarely ever rattled by loud fans. They're used to it. The thing about this Duke team is that it not only has a legitimate three or four guys on the floor at all times that can hit the deep ball if someone else is struggling, but it also, unlike in the program's leaner years of '05 through '09, always has one or two crafty penetrators on the court in Rivers and Curry who can finish and get to the line or create scoring inside for Duke's bigs.