GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Oct 8, 2012 1:42pm
But the car and driver does have to win the race. Fuel mileage is all part of a car setup. You can do things to get better or less mileage. Plus, if you're close to running out, the drivers skill comes into play on being able to save enough gas to make it to the end of the race as well.WebFire;1290365 wrote:But I wish it weren't part of it. I want the cars (setup etc) and drivers to have to win races.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 8, 2012 1:59pm
Meh. That's not racing. That is trying to improve gas mileage. We'll agree to disagree.GoChiefs;1290368 wrote:But the car and driver does have to win the race. Fuel mileage is all part of a car setup. You can do things to get better or less mileage. Plus, if you're close to running out, the drivers skill comes into play on being able to save enough gas to make it to the end of the race as well.
I'm a dirt track guy. So racing to me is balls out, fast as you can go all the time.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Oct 8, 2012 2:02pm
WebFire;1290385 wrote:Meh. That's not racing. That is trying to improve gas mileage. We'll agree to disagree.
I'm a dirt track guy. So racing to me is balls out, fast as you can go all the time.
So they should take the races down to 20 laps like dirt tracks? When you race 500 miles, fuel becomes a part of racing.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 8, 2012 4:36pm
Obviously not what I am saying. Fuel mileage is fine if it is part of the overall strategy over the course of the whole race. The ones I hate are the "fuel mileage races" where a guy can run 25th all day and literally take a gamble on fuel mileage and win the race as others stall out on the last lap.GoChiefs;1290388 wrote:So they should take the races down to 20 laps like dirt tracks? When you race 500 miles, fuel becomes a part of racing.
I think you know exactly what I'm talking about.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Oct 8, 2012 4:39pm
WebFire;1290529 wrote:Obviously not what I am saying. Fuel mileage is fine if it is part of the overall strategy over the course of the whole race. The ones I hate are the "fuel mileage races" where a guy can run 25th all day and literally take a gamble on fuel mileage and win the race as others stall out on the last lap.
I think you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Ahh, yes, I gotcha now. But honestly, how often does that happen? Not very.
said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Oct 9, 2012 9:30am
I'd like to see NASCAR bring two tire options to tracks. Do you think having a softer and harder tire, different strategies would be tried?
I'm thinking harder tires last more than one stint and only take fuel in the pits for track position.
Not sure if different tire compounds would work for oval racing.
I'm thinking harder tires last more than one stint and only take fuel in the pits for track position.
Not sure if different tire compounds would work for oval racing.
said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Oct 11, 2012 8:48am
Dale Jr out the next two races.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20121011/car-nascar-earnhardt-concussion/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20121011/car-nascar-earnhardt-concussion/
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 11, 2012 9:02am
Wow, that's huge!
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Oct 11, 2012 10:05am
Yeah, yesterday was his birthday too. He's been a little sick and a lot sore this week.
said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Oct 11, 2012 11:27am
Do you think dramatic changes will finally be made in the restrictor plate races? Do fans really like watching "the big one" the final few laps in these races?Speedofsand;1292550 wrote:Yeah, yesterday was his birthday too. He's been a little sick and a lot sore this week.
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Oct 11, 2012 12:52pm
I haven't thought about it, but I doubt they change much for plate races. Mike Helton will not make sudden drastic changes. I'll suggest covering the track with dirt, lol. Really, I'd like to see the July Daytona race changed to using the whole road course. Fans get nice and close watching by the infield fence too. Skip the turn 3 chicane for more speed and passing around the oval.
I know there are plenty who go just to see wrecks, but most just want to see passing. Nascar tries to put on a 'show' for the fans. Its a joke. Mark Martin said a long time ago why he hates plate races.
I know there are plenty who go just to see wrecks, but most just want to see passing. Nascar tries to put on a 'show' for the fans. Its a joke. Mark Martin said a long time ago why he hates plate races.
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Oct 11, 2012 2:36pm
Bristol was built with a football field. The Redskins & Eagles played an exhibition game there in 1961.
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Oct 11, 2012 2:38pm
Daytona 1963. Football field is in the tri-oval.
http://www.floridastockcars.com/gallery3/v/Daytona/?g2_page=13
http://www.floridastockcars.com/gallery3/v/Daytona/?g2_page=13
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Oct 11, 2012 3:29pm
Good thing his championship hopes were already over.WebFire;1292506 wrote:Wow, that's huge!
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Oct 11, 2012 3:31pm
Nope. Nothings going to change because Junior said this happened back at Kansas when he wrecked. Said he knew then something wasn't right, but didn't go to a doctor until he didn't feel right after the 'Dega crash. So NASCAR will chalk this up as a concussion from "several" races, and won't lay the blame on restrictor plate racing.said_aouita;1292610 wrote:Do you think dramatic changes will finally be made in the restrictor plate races? Do fans really like watching "the big one" the final few laps in these races?
As for the fans, sadly, some do watch just for the wrecks. IMO, those aren't racing fans though.
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Oct 16, 2012 7:33pm
Nascar Trucks going to race at Eldora?
http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/truck/story/_/id/8513382/truck-race-possible-eldora-speedway-dirt-sources-say
The test was scheduled to take place Monday or Tuesday, the sources said. Officials at Eldora could not be reached for comment.
http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/truck/story/_/id/8513382/truck-race-possible-eldora-speedway-dirt-sources-say
The test was scheduled to take place Monday or Tuesday, the sources said. Officials at Eldora could not be reached for comment.
said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Oct 17, 2012 9:23am
That would be I N S A N E !!!!!!Speedofsand;1296877 wrote:Nascar Trucks going to race at Eldora?
http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/truck/story/_/id/8513382/truck-race-possible-eldora-speedway-dirt-sources-say
The test was scheduled to take place Monday or Tuesday, the sources said. Officials at Eldora could not be reached for comment.
Heck with buying tickets, I just want to go experience the traffic jam covering most of Darke county.
Downtown New Weston, where Eldora is kinda located.
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Oct 19, 2012 4:00pm
Goldcoast stuff
http://vimeo.com/51739978
No more Prelude at Eldora. They are adding 3rd days to some events.
http://www.eldoraspeedway.com/
http://vimeo.com/51739978
No more Prelude at Eldora. They are adding 3rd days to some events.
http://www.eldoraspeedway.com/
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Oct 20, 2012 12:41pm
FYI: I added this week's race to vBookie. So, head on over sometime in the next 24 hours if you want to wager.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Oct 21, 2012 1:36am
Voted.ts1227;1299579 wrote:FYI: I added this week's race to vBookie. So, head on over sometime in the next 24 hours if you want to wager.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Oct 21, 2012 1:40am
That sucks. They are expecting to bring in back in 2014 though. Something about they are expanding on "Dream week" this year and it's going to limit the Sprint cars that are borrowed?Speedofsand;1299178 wrote:No more Prelude at Eldora. They are adding 3rd days to some events.
http://www.eldoraspeedway.com/
I've got to make my way over to the track next summer.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Oct 21, 2012 1:41am
I REALLY hope this happens!Speedofsand;1296877 wrote:Nascar Trucks going to race at Eldora?
http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/truck/story/_/id/8513382/truck-race-possible-eldora-speedway-dirt-sources-say
The test was scheduled to take place Monday or Tuesday, the sources said. Officials at Eldora could not be reached for comment.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Oct 22, 2012 7:17pm
A truck race at Eldora would be sweet. Also, it's nice to see local(ish) guy Dave Blaney's son doing well in the truck series with Penske.
Nice to see Kenseth with a 2nd win in the chase. Suck it Roush
Nice to see Kenseth with a 2nd win in the chase. Suck it Roush
said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Oct 23, 2012 8:09am
I think after last years cluster of a prelude celebrity race....too many cars were wrecked?GoChiefs;1300431 wrote:That sucks. They are expecting to bring in back in 2014 though. Something about they are expanding on "Dream week" this year and it's going to limit the Sprint cars that are borrowed?
I've got to make my way over to the track next summer.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Oct 23, 2012 8:29am
Eh, I'm pretty sure they are fully aware that there cars are going to be fucked up when they let them borrow them.said_aouita;1302533 wrote:I think after last years cluster of a prelude celebrity race....too many cars were wrecked?