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Oct 8, 2012 1:42 PM
WebFire;1290365 wrote:But I wish it weren't part of it. I want the cars (setup etc) and drivers to have to win races.
But the car and driver does have to win the race. Fuel mileage is all part of a car setup. You can do things to get better or less mileage. Plus, if you're close to running out, the drivers skill comes into play on being able to save enough gas to make it to the end of the race as well.
Oct 8, 2012 1:42pm
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Oct 8, 2012 1:59 PM
GoChiefs;1290368 wrote:But the car and driver does have to win the race. Fuel mileage is all part of a car setup. You can do things to get better or less mileage. Plus, if you're close to running out, the drivers skill comes into play on being able to save enough gas to make it to the end of the race as well.
Meh. That's not racing. That is trying to improve gas mileage. We'll agree to disagree.

I'm a dirt track guy. So racing to me is balls out, fast as you can go all the time.
Oct 8, 2012 1:59pm
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Oct 8, 2012 2:02 PM
WebFire;1290385 wrote:Meh. That's not racing. That is trying to improve gas mileage. We'll agree to disagree.

I'm a dirt track guy. So racing to me is balls out, fast as you can go all the time.

So they should take the races down to 20 laps like dirt tracks? When you race 500 miles, fuel becomes a part of racing.
Oct 8, 2012 2:02pm
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Oct 8, 2012 4:36 PM
GoChiefs;1290388 wrote:So they should take the races down to 20 laps like dirt tracks? When you race 500 miles, fuel becomes a part of racing.
Obviously not what I am saying. Fuel mileage is fine if it is part of the overall strategy over the course of the whole race. The ones I hate are the "fuel mileage races" where a guy can run 25th all day and literally take a gamble on fuel mileage and win the race as others stall out on the last lap.

I think you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Oct 8, 2012 4:36pm
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Oct 8, 2012 4:39 PM
WebFire;1290529 wrote:Obviously not what I am saying. Fuel mileage is fine if it is part of the overall strategy over the course of the whole race. The ones I hate are the "fuel mileage races" where a guy can run 25th all day and literally take a gamble on fuel mileage and win the race as others stall out on the last lap.

I think you know exactly what I'm talking about.

Ahh, yes, I gotcha now. But honestly, how often does that happen? Not very.
Oct 8, 2012 4:39pm
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Oct 9, 2012 9:30 AM
I'd like to see NASCAR bring two tire options to tracks. Do you think having a softer and harder tire, different strategies would be tried?
I'm thinking harder tires last more than one stint and only take fuel in the pits for track position.

Not sure if different tire compounds would work for oval racing.
Oct 9, 2012 9:30am
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Oct 11, 2012 9:02 AM
Wow, that's huge!
Oct 11, 2012 9:02am
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Oct 11, 2012 10:05 AM
Yeah, yesterday was his birthday too. He's been a little sick and a lot sore this week.
Oct 11, 2012 10:05am
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Oct 11, 2012 11:27 AM
Speedofsand;1292550 wrote:Yeah, yesterday was his birthday too. He's been a little sick and a lot sore this week.
Do you think dramatic changes will finally be made in the restrictor plate races? Do fans really like watching "the big one" the final few laps in these races?
Oct 11, 2012 11:27am
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Oct 11, 2012 12:52 PM
I haven't thought about it, but I doubt they change much for plate races. Mike Helton will not make sudden drastic changes. I'll suggest covering the track with dirt, lol. Really, I'd like to see the July Daytona race changed to using the whole road course. Fans get nice and close watching by the infield fence too. Skip the turn 3 chicane for more speed and passing around the oval.

I know there are plenty who go just to see wrecks, but most just want to see passing. Nascar tries to put on a 'show' for the fans. Its a joke. Mark Martin said a long time ago why he hates plate races.
Oct 11, 2012 12:52pm
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Oct 11, 2012 2:36 PM
Bristol was built with a football field. The Redskins & Eagles played an exhibition game there in 1961.

Oct 11, 2012 2:36pm
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Oct 11, 2012 3:29 PM
WebFire;1292506 wrote:Wow, that's huge!
Good thing his championship hopes were already over.
Oct 11, 2012 3:29pm
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Oct 11, 2012 3:31 PM
said_aouita;1292610 wrote:Do you think dramatic changes will finally be made in the restrictor plate races? Do fans really like watching "the big one" the final few laps in these races?
Nope. Nothings going to change because Junior said this happened back at Kansas when he wrecked. Said he knew then something wasn't right, but didn't go to a doctor until he didn't feel right after the 'Dega crash. So NASCAR will chalk this up as a concussion from "several" races, and won't lay the blame on restrictor plate racing.

As for the fans, sadly, some do watch just for the wrecks. IMO, those aren't racing fans though.
Oct 11, 2012 3:31pm
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Oct 17, 2012 9:23 AM
Speedofsand;1296877 wrote:Nascar Trucks going to race at Eldora?

http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/truck/story/_/id/8513382/truck-race-possible-eldora-speedway-dirt-sources-say

The test was scheduled to take place Monday or Tuesday, the sources said. Officials at Eldora could not be reached for comment.
That would be I N S A N E !!!!!!

Heck with buying tickets, I just want to go experience the traffic jam covering most of Darke county.

Downtown New Weston, where Eldora is kinda located.

Oct 17, 2012 9:23am
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Oct 19, 2012 4:00 PM
Goldcoast stuff
http://vimeo.com/51739978



No more Prelude at Eldora. They are adding 3rd days to some events.
http://www.eldoraspeedway.com/
Oct 19, 2012 4:00pm
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Oct 20, 2012 12:41 PM
FYI: I added this week's race to vBookie. So, head on over sometime in the next 24 hours if you want to wager.
Oct 20, 2012 12:41pm
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Oct 21, 2012 1:36 AM
ts1227;1299579 wrote:FYI: I added this week's race to vBookie. So, head on over sometime in the next 24 hours if you want to wager.
Voted.
Oct 21, 2012 1:36am
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Oct 21, 2012 1:40 AM
Speedofsand;1299178 wrote:No more Prelude at Eldora. They are adding 3rd days to some events.
http://www.eldoraspeedway.com/
That sucks. They are expecting to bring in back in 2014 though. Something about they are expanding on "Dream week" this year and it's going to limit the Sprint cars that are borrowed?

I've got to make my way over to the track next summer.
Oct 21, 2012 1:40am
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Oct 22, 2012 7:17 PM
A truck race at Eldora would be sweet. Also, it's nice to see local(ish) guy Dave Blaney's son doing well in the truck series with Penske.

Nice to see Kenseth with a 2nd win in the chase. Suck it Roush
Oct 22, 2012 7:17pm
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Oct 23, 2012 8:09 AM
GoChiefs;1300431 wrote:That sucks. They are expecting to bring in back in 2014 though. Something about they are expanding on "Dream week" this year and it's going to limit the Sprint cars that are borrowed?

I've got to make my way over to the track next summer.
I think after last years cluster of a prelude celebrity race....too many cars were wrecked?
Oct 23, 2012 8:09am
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Oct 23, 2012 8:29 AM
said_aouita;1302533 wrote:I think after last years cluster of a prelude celebrity race....too many cars were wrecked?
Eh, I'm pretty sure they are fully aware that there cars are going to be fucked up when they let them borrow them.
Oct 23, 2012 8:29am