
imex99
Posts: 4,927
Nov 18, 2011 7:48pm
Nice comparison...
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/blogs/alex/pryor-2008-vs-miller-2011-ytd
Keep in mind Miller didn't play in the Toledo game, while Pryor played in every game, so we will compare by games played in by the individual, not team games.
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/blogs/alex/pryor-2008-vs-miller-2011-ytd
Keep in mind Miller didn't play in the Toledo game, while Pryor played in every game, so we will compare by games played in by the individual, not team games.

jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Nov 18, 2011 7:54pm
If I would have guessed, I would have said that Pryor had much better stats than Braxton Miller. Had no idea they were that close.
With that being said, Miller has a ton of growth and improving to do. I think he will with a new coaching staff not made up of Tressel "yes men." I also think Miller has a much higher ceiling than TP did. You can tell that Miller uses better fundamentals, is less worried about being an star, and my perception is that he is a little less mistake prone.
With that being said, Miller has a ton of growth and improving to do. I think he will with a new coaching staff not made up of Tressel "yes men." I also think Miller has a much higher ceiling than TP did. You can tell that Miller uses better fundamentals, is less worried about being an star, and my perception is that he is a little less mistake prone.

ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Nov 18, 2011 8:02pm
The upside is that Pryor had somebody to throw the rock to, Miller gets his first look a legit receiver for the first time tomorrow.

Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Nov 18, 2011 8:24pm
Pretty sure Miller played in the Akron game.imex99;978371 wrote:Nice comparison...
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/blogs/alex/pryor-2008-vs-miller-2011-ytd
Keep in mind Miller didn't play in the Akron game, while Pryor played in every game, so we will compare by games played in by the individual, not team games.

HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Nov 18, 2011 9:09pm
Miller gets his first look a legit receiver for the first time tomorrow.

imex99
Posts: 4,927
Nov 18, 2011 9:44pm
Pick6;978423 wrote:Pretty sure Miller played in the Akron game.
Toledo
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imex99
Posts: 4,927
Nov 19, 2011 11:55am
From the comments...
Huge difference, Pryor was throwing to Robiskie, Hartline, Sanzo, Ballard. No comparison really.
All on current nfl rosters!
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Huge difference, Pryor was throwing to Robiskie, Hartline, Sanzo, Ballard. No comparison really.
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BearBoy69
Posts: 291
Nov 19, 2011 9:39pm
here's the thing... Pryor played the VERY conservative "Tresselball" if Pryor were able to open it up.. not even close. Though Braxton Miller will be a better QB his last year at OSU than Pryor was IMO

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Nov 19, 2011 9:51pm
Lol what? What the hell kind of offense do you think Miller is playing? it's not like OSU is going 4 or 5 wide.BearBoy69;979887 wrote:here's the thing... Pryor played the VERY conservative "Tresselball" if Pryor were able to open it up.. not even close. Though Braxton Miller will be a better QB his last year at OSU than Pryor was IMO

imex99
Posts: 4,927
Dec 30, 2011 5:26pm
Nice highlights [video=youtube;HX_9X01-v2A][/video]

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 30, 2011 5:33pm
Pryor is the better ATH, Miller is the better QB.

merv
Posts: 174
Dec 30, 2011 6:12pm
Miller is 0-1 vs Michigan.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 30, 2011 7:02pm
very astute :rolleyes:merv;1031687 wrote:Miller is 0-1 vs Michigan.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 30, 2011 7:39pm
imex99;1031660 wrote:Nice highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX_9X01-v2A
Seems to me more like a video of every positive yardage play that Miller made
A 4 yard dump pass to a FB in a "highlight" film
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 30, 2011 7:43pm
Tough comparison. Its more about opinion than stats. Miller had inexperience around him big time. I said prior to the start off the season, that this offense would struggle. I said the defense would struggle. Hate to say I told some so, but I did. I did expect a better record. But said 4/5 losses. But Miller didnt' have any experience at WR, which was HUGE. He had limited experience at RB. And the defense wasn't good enough to keep OSU in games or create turnovers for the offense. Pryor had a GREAT RB in Beane Wells. And he had a VERY good defense as well.
I don't always agree with Sleeper, but he is right. Pryor is a better athlete, Miller will be the better QB.
I don't always agree with Sleeper, but he is right. Pryor is a better athlete, Miller will be the better QB.

goosebumps
Posts: 1,058
Jan 2, 2012 3:27pm
Does miller have any tattoos?

Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 2, 2012 3:38pm
he has to win some memorabilia before he can get any of them.goosebumps;1035365 wrote:Does miller have any tattoos?
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 2, 2012 3:56pm
Clueless as usual. You are only as good as those around you. Pryor was surrounded with talent and experience. Look at the Oline today. Pitiful.ccrunner609;1035353 wrote:After this bowl game.....Pryor all day

goosebumps
Posts: 1,058
Jan 2, 2012 5:20pm
Haha thanks for not jumping on me. I said it very tongue in cheek.Pick6;1035389 wrote:he has to win some memorabilia before he can get any of them.
As an outside observer, I think Miller will be much better than Pryor. He's a one year in and very capable of some big plays. Under Coach Meyer, OSU will be very dangerous, and Miller will be the reason why.
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beverboy1
Posts: 514
Jan 3, 2012 6:21pm
yes he could if the wr could get open!! pryor had alot better wr then miller !!ccrunner609;1035933 wrote:I believe that Miller has plenty around him.......its the fact that he got sacked 7 times and literally he could of prevented every one of them.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 3, 2012 7:20pm
I think Miller will end up being better than TP.

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jan 3, 2012 7:27pm
lol....did you even watch the fucking game? He didn't play great thats fro sure but saying he could have prevented those sacks is asinine.ccrunner609;1035933 wrote:I believe that Miller has plenty around him.......its the fact that he got sacked 7 times and literally he could of prevented every one of them.
The receivers were either locked down and not doing shit or the O-line acted as revolving doors.
Every time I read a post of yours regarding OSU I facepalm....basketball included
Pryor was leaps and bounds a better athlete. I think at this point their passing was pretty similar. Pryor had that awful hitch motion, while Miller tends to get fidgety and completely miss open receivers. Miller still has the better mechanics at this point in time. His passing will definitely improve.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 3, 2012 7:43pm
I honestly think Miller is a better runner than TP.

jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jan 3, 2012 8:41pm
Comparisons are hard because Miller's supporting cast was largely garbage and the few guys who could have helped were too busy worrying about getting tattoos on their body and being selfish.
Miller showed flashes of brilliance despite being coached by one of the worst offensive minds in the nation. I really cringe at the damage Bollman and Nepotism Siciliano might have done to him. Hopefully Meyer can come in and get his confidence up.
I think the WRs who consistently let him down by either dropping the ball or not getting open consistently will probably be largely tossed to the side. I tend to think you'll see more guys with pure speed on the edge who are versatile enough to run with the ball, because let's be honest Miller probably still will not be incredibly accurate next year. Going to have to run.
So long story short, the piece of garbage that is TP was better than Miller as a freshman, but the book is not closed on Miller. I still expect him to be a better pure QB by the time he hangs them up.
Miller showed flashes of brilliance despite being coached by one of the worst offensive minds in the nation. I really cringe at the damage Bollman and Nepotism Siciliano might have done to him. Hopefully Meyer can come in and get his confidence up.
I think the WRs who consistently let him down by either dropping the ball or not getting open consistently will probably be largely tossed to the side. I tend to think you'll see more guys with pure speed on the edge who are versatile enough to run with the ball, because let's be honest Miller probably still will not be incredibly accurate next year. Going to have to run.
So long story short, the piece of garbage that is TP was better than Miller as a freshman, but the book is not closed on Miller. I still expect him to be a better pure QB by the time he hangs them up.

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jan 3, 2012 8:53pm
Yes, leaps and bounds.
You said Miller "had plenty around him" when comparing his supporting cast to Pryor's. That is laughable.
You said Miller "had plenty around him" when comparing his supporting cast to Pryor's. That is laughable.