5knots;1285544 wrote:Start listening to this at the 3:40 mark. Beckman fields a question about his 2 freshman LBs. One from Cleveland St Ignatius and Mason from little old Orrville. The "program" he speaks of is not St Iggys...he is referring to Orrville's program. Now I am not saying we have a better program than St Iggys...I am saying we have a "program" that is respected in the D1 ranks. That doesn't just happen by itself. Takes a lot of sacrifice by many coaches and their families. They love what they do.
http://www.fightingillini.com/sports/m-footbl/ill-m-footbl-body.html and click the Beckman presser pic for the 10-1 presser

RedRider1;1284969 wrote:Again, using your logic... I didn't have a kid who played for the former coach, so no need to discuss anything with him.

Was just a fan with an opinion...

rrfan;1285086 wrote:Series can't take his own medicine. I love it. He has no logic and redrider1 is eating his lunch. The "other coach" appearing on this thread had tons of talent and spoiled it. Coach Davault right now has basically no talent. That is the difference. Let me add !!!***** ****!!! so series knows I mean business. Lol.

BRF;1285630 wrote:Repost from Pitman:

Triway (5-1)
Copley (4-2)
Lexington (4-2)
Mansfield Senior (5-1)
West Holmes (6-0)

Pretty impressive and bad luck for us.

Series62;1285631 wrote:What logic has rr-1 given! To say why he didn't meet with Coach Short which is basically the same why I/we don't need to meet with Davault!
His logic is filled with hipocrisy and double-talk!

That coach Davault "has no talent" obviously reveals how good a coach he really is!

RedRider1;1285170 wrote:You really think our kids aren't in the weight room & watching film? Really?...

rrfan;1285178 wrote:...I also don't think this team did the work in the weight room. They may have spent there time there but the work was not done. This is a weak team...

RedRider1;1285642 wrote:I know it's tough to have to live by the rules you yourself made.

"If you don't address the coach face to face, you have zero credibility to post concerns on a message board."

Your rule, not mine.

Was it a rule or a suggestion? I believe that statement came from you during the previous football season. I brought it back to your attention when you began your tirade against the basketball coach. And as I said before, I did address the coach face to face.

Toss all the insults & language at me that you want (not very becoming), but I'm more interested in productive discussion.

You haven't provided any productive discussion. Your conversation is always against Red Rider Nation, Troll King and myself, however when Old Rider and a some of the other posters agree with our comments, you cease to post your disagreement and attempt to change the subject. Those aren't insults, those are descriptions of the attributes of you!

If you have to resort to swearing to make your point, you're doing it wrong. Makes you look immature.

Did I swear, I simply left out the place where you need to interject your reminder!

5knots;1285646 wrote:Depends on which kid you are talking about

Old Rider;1285659 wrote:This thread is about as entertaining as the circus we are running at Heartland Field...:thumbdown:

Stick to football and quit the cat fight!

Series62;1285647 wrote:Above rr-1

Series62;1285650 wrote:Ask rr-1 and rrfan. You didn't read rr-1 questioning or stating how wrong rrfan is do you!

Red Rider;1285704 wrote:I'll just put this out here, I do not have a kid on the team. I have 2 kids at OHS that play other sports. I have no special ties with any of the coaches, but I know many of them and respect what they do. I also know the frustrations of wanting to win and wanting the best players on the field/court. I also am a believer that being the "best" means being a solid individual as well and not a cancer.

A couple years ago I was just as angry as some posters about a situation in another sport. I was venting to a retired coach from another district about many of the same things being discussed here, as I knew the team was under performing and I believed kids were playing because of their dads relationship/influence with the coach. He said I was most likely right, but left me with this cold, hard fact he had gleaned from 20 years of coaching.

"You can coach to win or you can coach to keep (important) people happy, but you will never be able to do both. At a public school, you have the decision to make if you want to keep your job as a coach at the start of every season. Do you have the talent to win this year, or are you going to have to do your best just to keep a few key people happy."

It doesn't make it easy and it doesn't make it right, but it is the real world. As the old saying goes, the 2 greatest coaches in any program are the last one and the next one.

Troll King;1285754 wrote:There're buddies from the same good old boy club . As long as one of them speaks their opinion it's okay it's a mistake when one of us three speak ours.

Troll King;1285754 wrote:There're buddies from the same good old boy club . As long as one of them speaks their opinion it's okay it's a mistake when one of us three speak ours.

RedRider1;1285774 wrote:Good old boy club. LOL. That's rich.