Dr Winston O'Boogie;971588 wrote:Chris Hanson, the show's host said their show deals with sexual predators and not pedophiles.

The two terms are not mutually exclusive. You can be a sexual predator and be a pedophile.

Mooney44Cards;971622 wrote:The two terms are not mutually exclusive. You can be a sexual predator and be a pedophile.

I assume you're correct. I was just saying that Hanson said the show doesn't go after pedophiles.

I'm just waiting for Boogie's next thread "Why are all Muslim's pedophiles?"

GoPens;971710 wrote:I'm just waiting for Boogie's next thread "Why are all Muslim's pedophiles?"

Why isn't this a legitimate discussion topic? Is it because it isn't politically correct. Go research the topic. Pedophiles go after boys more often then girls. My question is why is that. I never said anything about all gay people being pedophiles. I don't think that at all. I am asking a reasonable question.

Op is a moron.

I Wear Pants;971805 wrote:Op is a moron.

Who's Op?

You are moron.

Op?

So by asking a legitimate question (that you apparently offer an answer to), I'm a moron? Intellectual vigor obviously doesn't run deep in your veins. You probaby hated your shop teacher too when you failed to understand what he talking about when he described different uses for a hammer.

It means original poster moron. Perhaps you should use some of your "intellectual vigor" and find out what shit means on here.

GoPens;971849 wrote:It means original poster moron. Perhaps you should use some of your "intellectual vigor" and find out what **** means on here.

Sorry, I'm not up on my internet geek speak quite like you are.

You're not quite up to reality either from your dumb ass threads.

First, I think the OP is looking at it from the wrong angle. Pedophiles are not 'gay' or 'straight'. They're 'pedophiles'. They like young pre-pubescent children. That's their target. I think the reason you see young boys targeted by older men because it's easy for the pedophile to not raise suspicion.

Anecdotal question: which would raise more alarm, an old man letting a ten year old boy sleep in a room in his basement or letting a ten year old girl sleep in a room in his basement? The amount of interaction between the pedophile and his soon-to-be victim would increased if he used activities that a grown man participating in wouldn't seem 'weird' to the outside observer. Sports, etc. An old man spending a lot of time with a young girl (and not family-related) comes across as much more unlikely.

In the end, they're fucked up. They're not gay, and they're not straight. The sex of their victim matters little to them. The fact they're pre-pubescent is what they're after.

Sykotyk;971974 wrote:First, I think the OP is looking at it from the wrong angle. Pedophiles are not 'gay' or 'straight'. They're 'pedophiles'. They like young pre-pubescent children. That's their target. I think the reason you see young boys targeted by older men because it's easy for the pedophile to not raise suspicion.

Anecdotal question: which would raise more alarm, an old man letting a ten year old boy sleep in a room in his basement or letting a ten year old girl sleep in a room in his basement? The amount of interaction between the pedophile and his soon-to-be victim would increased if he used activities that a grown man participating in wouldn't seem 'weird' to the outside observer. Sports, etc. An old man spending a lot of time with a young girl (and not family-related) comes across as much more unlikely.

In the end, they're ****ed up. They're not gay, and they're not straight. The sex of their victim matters little to them. The fact they're pre-pubescent is what they're after.

Reps. The sexual orientation of the predator is not what motivates them to prey on children as the shitty article that was linked suggests.

Sykotyk;971974 wrote:First, I think the OP is looking at it from the wrong angle. Pedophiles are not 'gay' or 'straight'. They're 'pedophiles'. They like young pre-pubescent children. That's their target. I think the reason you see young boys targeted by older men because it's easy for the pedophile to not raise suspicion.

Anecdotal question: which would raise more alarm, an old man letting a ten year old boy sleep in a room in his basement or letting a ten year old girl sleep in a room in his basement? The amount of interaction between the pedophile and his soon-to-be victim would increased if he used activities that a grown man participating in wouldn't seem 'weird' to the outside observer. Sports, etc. An old man spending a lot of time with a young girl (and not family-related) comes across as much more unlikely.

In the end, they're ****ed up. They're not gay, and they're not straight. The sex of their victim matters little to them. The fact they're pre-pubescent is what they're after.

I think this makes a lot of sense.

Sykotyk;971974 wrote:First, I think the OP is looking at it from the wrong angle. Pedophiles are not 'gay' or 'straight'. They're 'pedophiles'. They like young pre-pubescent children. That's their target. I think the reason you see young boys targeted by older men because it's easy for the pedophile to not raise suspicion.

Anecdotal question: which would raise more alarm, an old man letting a ten year old boy sleep in a room in his basement or letting a ten year old girl sleep in a room in his basement? The amount of interaction between the pedophile and his soon-to-be victim would increased if he used activities that a grown man participating in wouldn't seem 'weird' to the outside observer. Sports, etc. An old man spending a lot of time with a young girl (and not family-related) comes across as much more unlikely.

In the end, they're fucked up. They're not gay, and they're not straight. The sex of their victim matters little to them. The fact they're pre-pubescent is what they're after.

Reps. I first read this on my phone then had to get to a PC for the Reps !!!

I've also read in some of the Penn State coverage that many psychiatrists don't believe a pedophile can be effectively "cured" or helped. This makes it very frightening.

Here are some stats on child sex abuse

http://www.prevent-abuse-now.com/stats.htm#Child

1.7 out of 1000 girls report being abused. .4 out of 1000 boys report being abused. It would seem to me that more than 4 times as many girls are abused as boys. So I think we can stop worrying about why all homosexuals are also pedophiles.

FatHobbit;972479 wrote:Here are some stats on child sex abuse

http://www.prevent-abuse-now.com/stats.htm#Child

1.7 out of 1000 girls report being abused. .4 out of 1000 boys report being abused. It would seem to me that more than 4 times as many girls are abused as boys. So I think we can stop worrying about why all homosexuals are also pedophiles.

If you read my question, you would know that was never my contention. I am not asking why "all homosexuals are also pedophile" as I don't believe that at to be the case at all. My question was why more pedophiles pick boys than girls. Here is a link that explains this to be so: http://www.crisisconnectioninc.org/sexualassault/pedophilia_and_molestation.htm

If my thread title is misleading, I apologize. I didn't know how to properly phrase my question. Again, I don't allege that homosexuals are all pedophiles at all. And one poster here explained it well that maybe it's a matter of opportunity. It is a physchological question, not a political one.

Dr Winston O'Boogie;972590 wrote: My question was why more pedophiles pick boys than girls. Here is a link that explains this to be so: http://www.crisisconnectioninc.org/sexualassault/pedophilia_and_molestation.htm

I skimmed your link but I only see where it says most offenders are male. Did I miss the part where it says most victims are male.

Dr Winston O'Boogie;972590 wrote:And one poster here explained it well that maybe it's a matter of opportunity.

I think most victims are molested by someone they know and trust. And I believe from the link I posted that most victims are female so I don't think parents do a better job protecting girls. I know several women that were molested when they were children and all of them were by a family member or family friend.

I'm sure glad the thread title got fixed. Im not as offended now.

FatHobbit;972638 wrote:I skimmed your link but I only see where it says most offenders are male. Did I miss the part where it says most victims are male.



I think most victims are molested by someone they know and trust. And I believe from the link I posted that most victims are female so I don't think parents do a better job protecting girls. I know several women that were molested when they were children and all of them were by a family member or family friend.

The link said, "Offenders report that when they touch a child, most (60%) of the victims are boys." I think the earlier poster probably hit the nail on the head. The opportunity for a pedophile to be alone with a male child is a lot easier than with a female. I hadn't thought of that, but it makes a lot of sense.

Steel Valley Football;972669 wrote:I'm sure glad the thread title got fixed. Im not as offended now.

My original choice of wording was poor. It obviously was misleading people and that wasn't my intention at all.

Dr Winston O'Boogie;972718 wrote:The link said, "Offenders report that when they touch a child, most (60%) of the victims are boys." I think the earlier poster probably hit the nail on the head. The opportunity for a pedophile to be alone with a male child is a lot easier than with a female. I hadn't thought of that, but it makes a lot of sense.

Thank you for clarifying.



Here's a study of 17,337 sex abuse victims. 9,367 female and 7,970 are female. I do not believe that the majority of victims are male. (Although I would be willing to believe that most male victims do not want to come forward.)

http://www.jimhopper.com/pdfs/Dube_(2005)_Childhood_sexual_abuse_by_gender_of_victim.pdf

here is another link that states "girls are at twice the risk than boys for sexual victimization throughout childhood and at eight times the risk during adolescence. "

http://www.aaets.org/article124.htm

Girls ages 16-19 are 4 times more likely than the general population to be victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault.

http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/sexual-assault-victims

http://www.childadvocate.net/child_sexual_abuse.htm

USA today article stating "Most reported victims of sexual abuse are female."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2002-07-23-victim-gender_x.htm

The term pedophile in this context refers to someone who attacks a pre-pubescent. Thinking of Sandusky, who is being termed a pedophile, was what got me thinking on this.

You know what has always bugged me is the attitude towards pedophilia and child sex abuse from the general public. It really shows a lack of understanding of what pedophilia is and how it works.

What I mean is....pedophilia and other sexual compulsions are just that....compulsions. To try to understand why somebody would rape a child or what was going through their head implies that there is a certain level of justification that goes into the act. Unlike other crimes, this is not the case. So basically these guys aren't thinking when they are doing it, they are just doing it.

Then we get the people that say about repeat offenders "I don't know how he didn't learn his lesson when he went to jail the last time." Again, these are not crimes of logic or justification, therefore no amount of jailtime will deter them from committing these acts again in the future.

So we're left with two choices for people like this: lifetime in prison, or attempt at rehabilitation. Now as has already been said....it is not something that can be fixed through therapy, but certain people can be taught to control their compulsions to a certain degree.

I guess the moral of the story is, to simply be mad and spout hatred towards people like this shows a lack of understanding of the mental disorder. These men literally cannot help themselves. The more everybody knows about, the better we understand it, the more we can do to prevent it.