Week 13 Dover (11-1) vs Mooney (8-3)

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september63
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Nov 13, 2011 8:54pm
ts1227;971793 wrote:Watch the language guys, or else you may lose the right to post on this thread.
Boom goes the Moderator!! And I was worried this week might be quiet bc Dover wasnt playing the Red?
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september63
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Nov 13, 2011 8:56pm
Mooney44Cards;971728 wrote:Man if the final score was decided by snarky posters on a message board then Dover would totally hang half a hundred on Mooney.

Dover just might score a Fitty Cent on ur Dirty butts!! You might score a fitty six though.
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Jim Shorts
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Nov 13, 2011 8:58pm
This thread is getting pretty snarky.
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J-Dover
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Nov 13, 2011 8:59pm
I love this message board. You guys are all great and don't want Friday to come along. For one I will miss getting on here every other day and catching up on how weak our schedule is and how we don't have a chance in hell, the other is because come Friday every one will see how bad our team really is. Not making excuses at all, we are bad! Our defense will give up as many yards as the Mooney running backs want to run and our "O" will just fizzle out. The offensive lineman will hold and draw at least 15 penalties and the defensive lineman will be chasing their helmets from getting popped off every snap they are on the field. All I can hope for is a couple long hail mary throws that hit one of our receivers. Have a safe week all, either at work or school. Good luck to both teams and here's to a injury free game.

GO DOVER GO
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Nov 13, 2011 9:10pm
Mooney44Cards;970373 wrote:Ya teams that actually play a tough schedule run the risk of not making the playoffs. Can you believe that?

BUT DOVER BEAT WOODWARD 62-0!!!!!

Man, I don't usually involve myself with such awful smack talking before they game, but if Dover fans really want to mock Ursuline for not making the playoffs, I have to step in. This pretty much assures the fact that you know absolutely nothing about football so everyting you say for the next 6 days I will laugh at with a heavy guffaw and then feel better once I see Mooney has won the game handily after another school's fans have claimed that they are the team that is talented enough/ has a good enough scheme to beat Mooney. Mooney has beaten at least 5 teams better than Dover, name ONE team Dover has played that has prepared them for Mooney. Seriously, NAME ONE. This is not to say that Dover has no chance, but seriously....having a chance sort of implies actually having faced similar competition before.

I'm sure this post will be quoted and then mocked for such arrogance and "oh man this is bulletin board material for Dover" BS, but I bet no one responds with the team Dover has beaten that has prepared them for Mooney because that team doesn't exist. Dover has played a cream puff schedule.......beef it up next time and maybe you will be prepared for the playoffs. As it is....Dover seems to be content with being awesome in the regular season and falling short in the post season every single year. Good luck with that.
We so sorry Kemosabe.

Tri Valley is still alive in D2 Region 7. They are not as good as the might Mooney (no one is) but they are not a cream puff. If they could get the best that Zanesville has to offer they probably would be pretty solid. By the way Zanesville did play pretty tight w/ the 2nd best that Youngstown has to offer. How did Mooney fair against the Irish. I know Ursuline beat Zanesville by less than a touchdown. The Tornadoes beat those cream puff Blue Devils by 2 scores

If Dover pulled from all of T-County, we could play a schedule comparable to Mooney. Unfortunately we do not, and we play a pretty solid schedule that earned us the #2 seed in the region. The Tornadoes will play their a** off come friday night. Will it be good enough to beat the Cardinals? We shall see but based on what many have said and what most have seen probably not. But if they play a great game they have a shot. And who they played the first 12 weeks really means absolutely jack. What does matter is the following:

Can Dover get a couple stops against the Mooney vaunted ground game. They are going to line it up and stuff it down our throat. They will score plenty of points I am sure. Dover needs to get a few stops. Probably will need some help via penalties or turnovers also.

Can Mooney slow down the Dover spread attack. You ask what makes Dover's offense different than other spread teams? They don't have extraordinary talent. But the QB is pretty legit. They have solid receivers. They will go 5 wide pretty much the entire game. They run their stuff as good as anyone else runs it. Their line holds on every play, just ask our previous opponents. The screens seem obvious, but they block it well and you better tackle well in space or else Dover's nonathletic boys will turn a 3 yard play into 15 yards. Really, the offense if built to give a less talented, smaller, slower team a shot in a game like this. It's the reason that the Mighty Big Red has struggled to slow Dover down.

Dover will pretty much have to play perfect Friday night, and maybe even hope Mooney struggles a bit. But we've seen it happen before. The Tornadoes have a punchers chance every Friday night, and we'll take that shot. Go Dover
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Nov 13, 2011 9:39pm
If the band plays Tusk, I like our chances
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Nov 13, 2011 9:53pm
bases_loaded;971876 wrote:If the band plays Tusk, I like our chances
I don't know - I heard mooney has musicians from all over the eastern half of the state(but they vehemently deny they come there just to be in the band)! It could be a tough night for the Dover band.
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Nov 13, 2011 10:02pm
Crimson and Gray Hair;971900 wrote:I don't know - I heard mooney has musicians from all over the eastern half of the state(but they vehemently deny they come there just to be in the band)! It could be a tough night for the Dover band.
I didn't think about this aspect of the game. Normally we have the edge when it comes to halftime, but with the best that Mahoning Valley has to offer I'm sure their Tuba's will blow us away.
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Dover
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Nov 13, 2011 11:21pm
Wooball;971920 wrote:I didn't think about this aspect of the game. Normally we have the edge when it comes to halftime, but with the best that Mahoning Valley has to offer I'm sure their Tuba's will blow us away.
I heard they have a tractor drag a pipe organ onto the sideline along with a full handbell choir
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Dean Wormer
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Nov 13, 2011 11:23pm
Wooball;971920 wrote:I didn't think about this aspect of the game. Normally we have the edge when it comes to halftime, but with the best that Mahoning Valley has to offer I'm sure their Tuba's will blow us away.
Even though the kids in Mooney's band are the toughest SOBs in the school I will concede this facet of the game.
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Nov 13, 2011 11:25pm
A football team with a winning tradition, tremendous ground game, great defense, and catholic priests. I bet this book is in every players locker.

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2002sunset
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Nov 14, 2011 7:57am
I love this thread. Mooney has to listen to this garbage all week. Let it fly, dOVER's you are only alive for 4 more days.
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holdingout
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Nov 14, 2011 8:19am
2002sunset;972203 wrote:I love this thread. Mooney has to listen to this garbage all week. Let it fly, dOVER's you are only alive for 4 more days.
What makes you think Mooney can stop Dover's passing attack? They basically couldn't stop Big Reds passing attack. Not saying Dover will win, but I like their chances. I have watched Mooney many times in playoffs. I've seen better Mooney teams than this years squad. Dover's passing game vs Mooney's running game. Scoreboard will be lighting up.
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2002sunset
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Nov 14, 2011 9:01am
holdingout;972223 wrote:What makes you think Mooney can stop Dover's passing attack? They basically couldn't stop Big Reds passing attack. Not saying Dover will win, but I like their chances. I have watched Mooney many times in playoffs. I've seen better Mooney teams than this years squad. Dover's passing game vs Mooney's running game. Scoreboard will be lighting up.
I don't think they can stop their passing game. That's not what I said. I like dOVER's team. The fans that have computer's are generally knuckleheads, that's all.

They will lose because they will be dominated on the line of scrimmage.
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genghis dong
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Nov 14, 2011 9:07am
holdingout;972223 wrote:What makes you think Mooney can stop Dover's passing attack? They basically couldn't stop Big Reds passing attack. Not saying Dover will win, but I like their chances. I have watched Mooney many times in playoffs. I've seen better Mooney teams than this years squad. Dover's passing game vs Mooney's running game. Scoreboard will be lighting up.
Come on Mooney sold out to stop the run there were 7 to 8 guys in the box all the time. You will see a whole new scheme for friday night against Dover's five wide look. The real question is can Dover's oline hold up against the Mooney line and line backers. I really don't see Dover stopping the Mooney running game at all. You gave up 498 yards rushing to Canfield. Sure Italiano is good but he's no McWilson, Moore, or Griffin. I know Dover can score in bunches, but I don't think they will not have the speed to keep up with Mooney.
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Jim Shorts
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Nov 14, 2011 9:17am
2002sunset;972258 wrote:The fans that have computer's are generally knuckleheads, that's all.
Hey twilight,

Pot calling kettle black?
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Dean Wormer
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Nov 14, 2011 9:20am
genghis dong;972266 wrote:Come on Mooney sold out to stop the run there were 7 to 8 guys in the box all the time. You will see a whole new scheme for friday night against Dover's five wide look. The real question is can Dover's oline hold up against the Mooney line and line backers. I really don't see Dover stopping the Mooney running game at all. You gave up 498 yards rushing to Canfield. Sure Italiano is good but he's no McWilson, Moore, or Griffin. I know Dover can score in bunches, but I don't think they will not have the speed to keep up with Mooney.
Mooney has never seen a passing attack like Dover has. The kid from Red Lion, a freshman who has an offer from USC, isn't even close to their QB. Mooney's linebackers are slow and clumsy and #59 couldn't tackle anybody. :rolleyes:
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Nov 14, 2011 9:25am
2002sunset;972203 wrote:I love this thread. Mooney has to listen to this garbage all week. Let it fly, dOVER's you are only alive for 4 more days.

That's 7 more than Big Red making at least 21 more days the last 2 years. Now back to your off season and basketball discussion. This thread is for teams that know how to get to week 13.

If Big Red can throw for 250 and Zanesville can hang with a team that best you, I love our chances.
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holdingout
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Nov 14, 2011 9:27am
2002sunset;972258 wrote:I don't think they can stop their passing game. That's not what I said. I like dOVER's team. The fans that have computer's are generally knuckleheads, that's all.

They will lose because they will be dominated on the line of scrimmage.
"They will lose because they will be dominated on the line of scrimmage"...Please explain your reasoning.
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Jim Shorts
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Nov 14, 2011 9:34am
Dean Wormer;972282 wrote:Mooney has never seen a passing attack like Dover has. The kid from Red Lion, a freshman who has an offer from USC, isn't even close to their QB. Mooney's linebackers are slow and clumsy and #59 couldn't tackle anybody. :rolleyes:
Pretty snarky, Dean.
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2002sunset
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Nov 14, 2011 9:36am
holdingout;972291 wrote:"They will lose because they will be dominated on the line of scrimmage"...Please explain your reasoning.
Really?

Mooney will run at will. They will not have to put the ball in the air unless they choose to. Dover will score, but more often than not, the QB will have 3 guys in his face. He unloads it quick, they can move the ball. By the 2nd half, the Mooney D will have their way with the offensive line. They get a couple guys to do their job in the secondary and it will be 3 and out.

I would like to see Dover pull it out (except for the handful of idiots on this site), but one dimensional teams have their hands full with all of the Mooney talent. Field day for the LB's with the D-Line blowing into the backfield.

You can't trade scores with Mooney. Running will be consistent, passing will not be.
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bases_loaded
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Nov 14, 2011 9:48am
holdingout;972291 wrote:"They will lose because they will be dominated on the line of scrimmage"...Please explain your reasoning.

Guess we won't be running on them.

Shucks
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holdingout
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Nov 14, 2011 9:50am
2002sunset;972310 wrote:Really?

Mooney will run at will. They will not have to put the ball in the air unless they choose to. Dover will score, but more often than not, the QB will have 3 guys in his face. He unloads it quick, they can move the ball. By the 2nd half, the Mooney D will have their way with the offensive line. They get a couple guys to do their job in the secondary and it will be 3 and out.

I would like to see Dover pull it out (except for the handful of idiots on this site), but one dimensional teams have their hands full with all of the Mooney talent. Field day for the LB's with the D-Line blowing into the backfield.

You can't trade scores with Mooney. Running will be consistent, passing will not be.
You make it sound like this is Mooney's best team ever. Believe me it's not. This is a good Mooney team, but I've seen many better Mooney teams than this one. Dover's passing gme is way better than Big Red's. Big Red passed for over 250yds.
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Jim Shorts
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Nov 14, 2011 9:51am
2002sunset;972310 wrote:
I would like to see Dover pull it out (except for the handful of idiots on this site)
You must have kettle on speed dial.
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2002sunset
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Nov 14, 2011 9:53am
holdingout;972322 wrote:You make it sound like this is Mooney's best team ever. Believe me it's not. This is a good Mooney team, but I've seen many better Mooney teams than this one. Dover's passing gme is way better than Big Red's. Big Red passed for over 250yds.
This is probably one of the weaker Mooney teams. But weaker compared to the stronger ones not weaker compared to other R11 teams.