krambman;964795 wrote: But much like Woody Hayes, his legacy will have a darker second chapter where he will be remembered as someone who employed a pedophile, who knew about heinous acts of rape committed against young boys at his facility, and who covered it up for over a decade.

queencitybuckeye;964801 wrote:He should step down immediately for everyone's good IMO. In any case, the university should decline any bowl invitations. Play the scheduled games and shut it down.

dwccrew;964803 wrote:Didn't realize Woody employed a pedophile. I always thought he just punched an opposing player.

dwccrew;964805 wrote:I actually disagree with this part of your post. Why punish the players for something they had no part in? JoePa should be punished, as anyone else that was involved should be.

queencitybuckeye;964822 wrote:Punishing the players is obviously not my intent, but whether Paterno is the coach or not, business as usual sends a bad message IMO. In situations like these, there are always secondary victims (the players, the university community in general, etc.).

queencitybuckeye;964822 wrote:Punishing the players is obviously not my intent, but whether Paterno is the coach or not, business as usual sends a bad message IMO. In situations like these, there are always secondary victims (the players, the university community in general, etc.).

vball10set;964828 wrote:I know what you're saying, but I think if Paterno, and McQueary, resign immediately, the court of public opinion will be sympathetic to this year's team...jmo.

queencitybuckeye;964836 wrote:I don't believe that anyone is holding any of this against the kids, but if I'm associated with trying to sort this mess out, Penn State Football is the last phrase I'd want on anyone's lips in any context for a few months.

Fab1b;964818 wrote:To compare any coaches actions to this situation, with the exception of perhaps the Baylor coach that covered up a murder, is absurd.

krambman;964773 wrote:Had he reported the incident to the authorities 10 years ago like the law mandates, then this wouldn't be an issue for him and his legacy.

Tiernan;964783 wrote:The sheer repulsiveness of what was allowed to continue after he knew about it in '98 cancels out anything else this man ever accomplished. Harsh? You better damn well believe it's Harsh, dozens (maybe hundreds) of boys were sodomized because an old man wanted to save the reputation of himself, a football team and an old pervert buddy of his.

krambman;964795 wrote:His legacy will be two fold.

Mulva;964865 wrote:That isn't what the law mandates. He did what the law mandates.

(b) Staff members of public or private agencies, institutions and facilities. Licensees who are staff members of a medical or other public or private institution, school, facility or agency, and who, in the course of their employment, occupation or practice of their profession, come into contact with children shall immediately notify the person in charge of the institution, school facility or agency or the designated agent of the person in charge when they have reasonable cause to suspect on the basis of their professional or other training or experience, that a child coming before them in their professional or official capacity is a victim of child abuse. Upon notification by the licensee, the person in charge or the designated agent shall assume the responsibility and have the legal obligation to report or cause a report to be made in accordance with subsections (a), (c) and (d).
(c) Reporting procedure. Reports of suspected child abuse shall be made by telephone and by written report.
(1) Oral reports. Oral reports of suspected child abuse shall be made immediately by telephone to ChildLine, (800) 932-0313.
(2) Written reports. Written reports shall be made within 48 hours after the oral report is made by telephone. Written reports shall be made on forms available from a county children and youth social service agency.

krambman;964891 wrote:He technically did what the law required. Here is what Pennsylvania state law says about reporting child abuse.



While he did report it to his supervisor, you could argue that as the head coach he himself was in a supervisory role significant enough that he should have called the hotline and reported the incident himself. It was one of his coaches that informed him about it and it was one of his coaches that was involved. He was the person in charge of that school facility. Also, I would think that if your report it to the person in charge and they do not take the proper action on the suspected abuse then you would still be held responsible to report it.

krambman;964891 wrote:It was one of his coaches that informed him about it and it was one of his coaches that was involved.

krambman;964891 wrote:Also, I would think that if your report it to the person in charge and they do not take the proper action on the suspected abuse then you would still be held responsible to report it.

Heretic;964743 wrote:Well, Skyhook does seem to be pretty religious. And with some branches of the church, "turning a blind eye to child molesting to maintain pristine image" is pretty much as big a part of the regular routine as going to church on Sunday, so I can understand why he'd not have anything negative to say about Joe's legacy. Good enough for the church, good enough for JoePa.

queencitybuckeye;964906 wrote:That he (probably) didn't violate the law is all well and good, but what is not seriously arguable is that he could have taken actions that would have prevented additional victims of the monster Sandusky, and he did not. That's his legacy.