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Steel Valley Football
Posts: 4,548
Nov 6, 2011 12:13pm
As a side note, WGH has been sending their running backs to the Big Ten lately over the past decade plus:
1998
Deryck Toles - Penn State
Carl Diggs - Michigan
2001
Maurice Clarett - Ohio State
Dave Herron - Mich State
2006
Danny Herron - Ohio State
Pretty good for one HS in an eight-year span.
1998
Deryck Toles - Penn State
Carl Diggs - Michigan
2001
Maurice Clarett - Ohio State
Dave Herron - Mich State
2006
Danny Herron - Ohio State
Pretty good for one HS in an eight-year span.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 6, 2011 12:47pm
What is WGH?Steel Valley Football;960241 wrote:As a side note, WGH has been sending their running backs to the Big Ten lately over the past decade plus:
1998
Deryck Toles - Penn State
Carl Diggs - Michigan
2001
Maurice Clarett - Ohio State
Dave Herron - Mich State
2006
Danny Herron - Ohio State
Pretty good for one HS in an eight-year span.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Nov 6, 2011 12:48pm
sleeper;960262 wrote:What is WGH?
Warren G. Harding
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 6, 2011 12:52pm
Ah, yeah that is impressive. It would have been nice for WGH to instill some discipline in Clarrett though. That guy would have won another championship, a Heisman, and possibly more.
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Steel Valley Football
Posts: 4,548
Nov 6, 2011 9:00pm
I'm sure you know that their HS team/coaches is not where a player's discipline comes from. Thom Mcdaniels benched him for two games for breaking team rules. That has nothing to do w what Clarett does three years later in college. Clarett was a model athlete and student at Warren. That's a family issue bud. Of course, Clarett was a local superstar since he went into 7th grade. Going to OSU and being on espn didn't help things in that regard.sleeper;960267 wrote:Ah, yeah that is impressive. It would have been nice for WGH to instill some discipline in Clarrett though. That guy would have won another championship, a Heisman, and possibly more.
ghosthunter
Posts: 154
Nov 7, 2011 5:53am
I think the main thing Boom immediately brought to the huddle was a steady influence. Normally you would look to the qb for this but, but with Miller being so inexperienced, that leadership had to come from elsewhere. I also agree he's playing with an attitude to try and make up for the mess he was part of. The biggest thing that will keep Boom from being a high pick is his size. Brother Dave got all of it. While the "tale of the tape" can't measure heart and determination, scouts put quite a bit in those numbers. Boom just needs to keep playing at a high level, displaying on the field leadership, and genuine remorse for all the crap he was involved in and he will get a shot in the NFL.
ghosthunter
Posts: 154
Nov 7, 2011 5:58am
Sleeper; coach McDaniels had Mo C in front of him damn near everyday; talking with him about life in general and what was going on in his life. Coach McDaniels did instill that discipline in Clarett at the high school level, however once Clarett left, that "steady influence" was gone. The rest is history.
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Steel Valley Football
Posts: 4,548
Nov 7, 2011 9:06am
ghosthunter;961686 wrote:Sleeper; coach McDaniels had Mo C in front of him damn near everyday; talking with him about life in general and what was going on in his life. Coach McDaniels did instill that discipline in Clarett at the high school level, however once Clarett left, that "steady influence" was gone. The rest is history.
In other words, he never had it.
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georgemc80
Posts: 983
Nov 7, 2011 12:36pm
Zoltan;955397 wrote: I personally think Luke is gone even if he wins every game the rest of the year though, including a bowl.
Do you realize what you just typed?
Win out including the bowl could/would mean:
1. Win over Michigan
2. Win the inaugural BIG Championship game
3. Defeat Oregon/Stanford in the Rose Bowl
At that point, is it possible to fire him?
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Nov 7, 2011 2:24pm
^^^he won't be fired, he just won't be retained...I don't think he was going to get the job no matter what he did...jmo
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Nov 7, 2011 2:47pm
If he wins the Rose Bowl in a season like this, the alumni/fanbase would be in an UPROAR if he didn't get the job. If the next coach didn't work out and Fickell succeeded elsewhere, I doubt Gene Smith would ever have an AD job again.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 7, 2011 2:49pm
Interesting. Did not know this.ghosthunter;961686 wrote:Sleeper; coach McDaniels had Mo C in front of him damn near everyday; talking with him about life in general and what was going on in his life. Coach McDaniels did instill that discipline in Clarett at the high school level, however once Clarett left, that "steady influence" was gone. The rest is history.
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wkfan
Posts: 1,641
Nov 7, 2011 3:52pm
He shouldn't have the one that he has now.Y-Town Steelhound;962161 wrote:....I doubt Gene Smith would ever have an AD job again.
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Steel Valley Football
Posts: 4,548
Nov 7, 2011 10:15pm
sleeper;962164 wrote:Interesting. Did not know this.
Then why call out WGH in the first place? Especially, as I posted, since it's foolish to blame a college kids mental shortcomings on the HS program where they played.
Lastly, how does a self-proclaimed Ohio State fan not know who WGH is in the context of a post referencing M Clarett and Boom Herron. I'm honestly perplexed about that one lol.
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Nov 8, 2011 1:02am
Because most Panth....I'm sorry, Raiders, end up going to Michigan...Steel Valley Football;962699 wrote:Then why call out WGH in the first place? Especially, as I posted, since it's foolish to blame a college kids mental shortcomings on the HS program where they played.
Lastly, how does a self-proclaimed Ohio State fan not know who WGH is in the context of a post referencing M Clarett and Boom Herron. I'm honestly perplexed about that one lol.
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Big Gain
Posts: 2,073
Nov 8, 2011 1:57am
Then you will have to wait to draft day, no one on here knows.Steel Valley Football;959575 wrote:I'm a little curious as to when he'll get picked.
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Big Gain
Posts: 2,073
Nov 8, 2011 2:00am
Fickell got a new contact a month ago, it lasts for exactly four months. it expires 1/31/2012.
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Steel Valley Football
Posts: 4,548
Nov 8, 2011 9:23am
Are you sure? WGH and WWR have both sent twice as many players to OSU than they have to UM.Y-Town Steelhound;962932 wrote:Because most Panth....I'm sorry, Raiders, end up going to Michigan...
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Nov 8, 2011 6:23pm
Just thinking of lately. Guys like Mario Manningham and Prescott Burgess immediately come to mind.Steel Valley Football;963167 wrote:Are you sure? WGH and WWR have both sent twice as many players to OSU than they have to UM.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 8, 2011 6:47pm
Because WGH has historically been known as a corrupt program. It's one of the worst high schools in the country, and if I'd of went there for high school, I'd probably be unemployed/web developer.Steel Valley Football;962699 wrote:Then why call out WGH in the first place? Especially, as I posted, since it's foolish to blame a college kids mental shortcomings on the HS program where they played.
Lastly, how does a self-proclaimed Ohio State fan not know who WGH is in the context of a post referencing M Clarett and Boom Herron. I'm honestly perplexed about that one lol.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Nov 8, 2011 7:20pm
sleeper;963969 wrote:Because WGH has historically been known as a corrupt program. It's one of the worst high schools in the country, and if I'd of went there for high school, I'd probably be unemployed/web developer.
You aren't even good at your act anymore
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Nov 8, 2011 7:37pm
was he ever?ts1227;964003 wrote:You aren't even good at your act anymore
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Nov 8, 2011 7:50pm
vball10set;964027 wrote:was he ever?
It was solid back on the pre- and early-OC days
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Zoltan
Posts: 1,003
Nov 9, 2011 7:36am
They fired Tressel, so I think it would be pretty easy to just not retain Luke. The bottom line is Urban Meyer, maybe the best CFB coach alive is available. I think he is the next coach, regardless of what Luke does this year.georgemc80;962008 wrote:Do you realize what you just typed?
Win out including the bowl could/would mean:
1. Win over Michigan
2. Win the inaugural BIG Championship game
3. Defeat Oregon/Stanford in the Rose Bowl
At that point, is it possible to fire him?
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Nov 9, 2011 7:42am
If Fickell wins out, I'll support the young lion versus the aging vet with possible health issues.