se-alum
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Feb 2, 2012 8:13am
I don't think anyone truly knows what is going on, but of course Neal and his father would say it's not true, if Neal was really told no by OSU. I wouldn't be surprised if Meyer laid down an ultimatum yesterday, and Diggs was the first to commit, leaving Neal out. Who knows though, we'll probably never know the truth.LJ;1073054 wrote:So where are you hearing this is for sure? Neal and Neal's father have both said "not true"
OneBuckeye
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Feb 2, 2012 8:15am
Its from the rumor mill on buckeye planet and the (BPRT) buckeye planet recruiting team. Also the same info was given on the scout premium boards.
LJ
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Feb 2, 2012 8:18am
It just sounds like the same "info" from yesterday.OneBuckeye;1073071 wrote:Its from the rumor mill on buckeye planet and the (BPRT) buckeye planet recruiting team. Also the same info was given on the scout premium boards.
I honestly would not believe that Urban would go "all in" on a chance over a sure thing. Like I said earlier and was reported by 11W, if Neal was truly told "no", Urban has to know that Diggs is comitting.
OneBuckeye
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Feb 2, 2012 8:23am
There are other cirucumstances surrounding it I think. They reference "more" to the story. Jordan Diamond is a good example, he came on his OV they didn't like something about him and didn't contact him at all afterwards. It could have been they thought they had Dodson and Decker locked up, or soemthing else. It does make sense that OSU thinks they have a good to great chance on Diggs as well. But the consensus is they would rather bank the ship if they don't get Diggs than give it to Neal.LJ;1073078 wrote:It just sounds like the same "info" from yesterday.
I honestly would not believe that Urban would go "all in" on a chance over a sure thing. Like I said earlier and was reported by 11W, if Neal was truly told "no", Urban has to know that Diggs is comitting.
LJ
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Feb 2, 2012 8:26am
Meh. I guess Neal still had the opportunity to commit as of Monday according to 11W. If there was "more" to it, I think that he would have had his offer pulled before Wed. I'm sticking with either they have Diggs locked up, or the story just plain isn't true.OneBuckeye;1073081 wrote:There are other cirucumstances surrounding it I think. They reference "more" to the story. Jordan Diamond is a good example, he came on his OV they didn't like something about him and didn't contact him at all afterwards. It could have been they thought they had Dodson and Decker locked up, or soemthing else. It does make sense that OSU thinks they have a good to great chance on Diggs as well.
OneBuckeye
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Feb 2, 2012 8:29am
Or they looked at their expected attrition and didn't have the extra spot for both. Or it could be both guys want to be "the guy" and couldn't co-exist so they chose to go after Diggs. Could be any number of things, either way Neal is out now.
se-alum
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Feb 2, 2012 8:41am
They definitely only have room for one, but I can't imagine Meyer would tell one guy he can't commit, while "hoping" the other guy will. I tend to agree with LJ, either Diggs is in, the story isn't true, or Neal has an academic/legal problem.OneBuckeye;1073087 wrote:Or they looked at their expected attrition and didn't have the extra spot for both. Or it could be both guys want to be "the guy" and couldn't co-exist so they chose to go after Diggs. Could be any number of things, either way Neal is out now.
OneBuckeye
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Feb 2, 2012 8:42am
This is straight from Neal's thread.
http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/2012-football-recruiting/607877-12-az-wr-davonte-neal-official-offer-31.html#post2101917Quote:In other words, Ohio State would not have taken Neal even if the Buckeyes had ten spaces open. This decision was all about Neal, and had nothing to do with Diggs, spaces, NCAA, etc.
Originally Posted by wadc45 
While people have posited several great theories in this thread, what The BPRT is hearing on our end is vastly different. I'm sure the whole story will be told at some point but suffice it to say OSU moved on...
ytownfootball
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Feb 2, 2012 8:45am
I tend to think that Diggs is in personally. The side effect is that by telling Neal we don't have a spot for you, sends a shot across the bow to future recruits that slow playing the Bucks, especially in a year upcoming when we only have 14/15 shpis to give should be considered early lol. You don't want to go all pre-madonna on this staff as you'll be on the outside looking in.
LJ
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Feb 2, 2012 8:48am
Either they pulled his offer awhile ago, OSU has Diggs, or nobody really knows wtf they are talking about and it is all speculation from 2nd and 3rd hand sources. If Neal had circumstances surrounding him that would make the staff not want him, his offer would have been pulled well before signing day.OneBuckeye;1073093 wrote:This is straight from Neal's thread.
http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/2012-football-recruiting/607877-12-az-wr-davonte-neal-official-offer-31.html#post2101917
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Feb 2, 2012 8:50am
Why? He could have done something this week that turned them off or a certain situation could have happend that caused this. Urban was putting the hard sell in very recently, so this is a very recent development.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Feb 2, 2012 8:52am
So he did something between Monday night and Wed morningOneBuckeye;1073101 wrote:Why? He could have done something this week that turned them off or a certain situation could have happend that caused this. Urban was putting the hard sell in very recently, so this is a very recent development.
If you get me a quote from Nevada saying that Meyer dropped Neal at the last minute, I would tend to put more stock into it. Until then, I don't think anyone knows what is truly going on, if anything.
ytownfootball
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Feb 2, 2012 9:34am
FWIW, Alex on 11W is hinting at feeling pretty good on the Diggs front.
LJ
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Feb 2, 2012 9:37am
Yeah, he was pretty well hinting last night that between the information he was getting on Neal vs the information he was getting on Diggs, that if the Neal story is true, then Diggs has most likely decided on OSU.ytownfootball;1073144 wrote:FWIW, Alex on 11W is hinting at feeling pretty good on the Diggs front.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Feb 2, 2012 9:46am
All things being equal (they're not, but damn close Diggs has an edge) it doesn't take very much to eliminate one or the other from contention. We can speculate all day as to the reasons, I happen to think Neal's dad is playing a larger role than he should at this point.
chicago510
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Feb 2, 2012 10:10am
Either way, the general consensus is that OSU feels Diggs>>>Neal.
As to whether that caused them to go all in on Diggs we can only speculate right now.
As to whether that caused them to go all in on Diggs we can only speculate right now.
LJ
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Feb 2, 2012 12:48pm
FWIW Nevada says that OSU turned down Neal because they are sure they are getting Diggs and expect his LOI and public announcement within 48 hours
ytownfootball
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Feb 2, 2012 12:58pm
Yeah, think they need to wrap it up before things really spiral where it doesn't need to go. If he's eliminated Florida there really isn't a point in taking an official to Maryland. Attending there may turn out to be a regret he wouldn't want to live with.
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dat dude
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Feb 2, 2012 3:29pm
SIAP, but an excellent Q and A with Coach Meyer: http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/59078/qa-ohio-state-coach-urban-meyer
How much are you working on the 2013 class right now?
UM: Oh, we're killing it. We're all over it.
Midstate01
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Feb 2, 2012 3:40pm
dat dude;1073527 wrote:SIAP, but an excellent Q and A with Coach Meyer: http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/59078/qa-ohio-state-coach-urban-meyer
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Was just about to post this article. Loved when he said, we don't redshirt here. If you don't play here, it's because you weren't good enough.
He also basically called bellman an idiot. Saying they had no offensive lineman.
chicago510
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Feb 2, 2012 4:07pm
Loved this:
[LEFT]"Every kid has a dream, and never once have I heard 'play in a bowl game my freshman year' as their dream," Meyer said. "It's 'have a great collegiate experience, graduate and go to the NFL.' All the penalties in place have no impact on the kids' dream."[/LEFT]
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Feb 2, 2012 4:38pm
Good lord our D line is going to be NASTY.
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Big Gain
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Feb 2, 2012 4:45pm
Wisconsin produces cow udder tuggers and cheese heads.....not many football players.bo shemmy3337;1072836 wrote:These coaches make me laugh, good recruiters get the talent, end of story. Bret is not good at recruiting.
se-alum
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Feb 2, 2012 6:39pm
Bielema is really taking QQ'ing to the next level. Only thing left for him to do is openly weep.
chicago510
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Feb 2, 2012 6:51pm
As they always say, if you cant beat 'em, QQ about them to the media. :laugh:se-alum;1073683 wrote:Bielema is really taking QQ'ing to the next level. Only thing left for him to do is openly weep.