I thought you meant Non's theory was a joke. my bad.killer_ewok;949607 wrote:Again, IT WAS A JOKE. Serious business? Evidently.
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thedynasty1998;949587 wrote:Who thought ND was that great this year? A 9 win season is solid, and that's what they are. They are probably a top 25 team, but certainly not a top 15 team. No shame in that.
lol non wasn't kidding unless I am missing something and he admitted to joking. He is so fucking dumb, he actually believes his own theory.killer_ewok;949607 wrote:Again, IT WAS A JOKE. Serious business? Evidently.
Like I said, probably somewhere between 16-25.september63;949616 wrote:AP #16 preseason.
WebFire;950584 wrote:Meh. Brian Kelly shouldn't be "learning" at this point in his career.
good post, and I just tried to rep ya' (but it said I had to spread some more around before it'll let me)....btw, good wins for OSU, ND and tsun this weekend, so we all should be one happy family this week---except for Gibby and SOS, of courseWebFire;950609 wrote:Rich Rodriguez said the same kind of **** at Michigan. Always blamed someone else, including the kids. Never took any responsibility for what was happening. He also had some pretty nice meltdowns on the sidelines. Michigan fans defended it for awhile, because he was the coach and no one wants to admit failure at something.
Kelly at ND this year reminds me of RR at Michigan.
Let's get real. It doesn't take a genius to know the things he has said shouldn't be said. Hell, even as a high school coach I would never say those things. No cameras or media there at all.
Sorry, I just don't buy into "he needs to learn" BS. Unless you mean he needs to learn to mask his true personality.
WebFire;950609 wrote:Rich Rodriguez said the same kind of **** at Michigan. Always blamed someone else, including the kids. Never took any responsibility for what was happening. He also had some pretty nice meltdowns on the sidelines. Michigan fans defended it for awhile, because he was the coach and no one wants to admit failure at something.
Kelly at ND this year reminds me of RR at Michigan.
Let's get real. It doesn't take a genius to know the things he has said shouldn't be said. Hell, even as a high school coach I would never say those things. No cameras or media there at all.
Sorry, I just don't buy into "he needs to learn" BS. Unless you mean he needs to learn to mask his true personality.
Not sure what "proportion" would suit an ND fan but what was said is said...not sure it can be candy coated.Hamp89;950659 wrote:You're right, he does need to mask his personality some, like every coach does at a big time school. BK has always said how he feels and he's learning to tone that down. This has been blown way out of proportion. We get that you don't like ND/Kelly. Cool, move on.
ytownfootball;950662 wrote:Not sure what "proportion" would suit an ND fan but what was said is said...not sure it can be candy coated.
Very valid point. As I said, I know he was trying to fire up the upperclassmen...and it clearly worked.Hamp89;950661 wrote:Also, it was interesting to see certain players have their best game of the year as well ...
No, I didn't watch the interview in its entirety, but there isn't a "context" issue with what he said. He just should shut the hell up. Even if he claims that he said what he said to motivate them it is just a fail, he hasn't been around there long enough nor won enough games to use that tool effectively, particularly given his actions on the sidelines.Hamp89;950665 wrote:Did you actually watch the interview or just making your assessment off the media's over blown take on it? I agreed he should not have said it.
sherm03;950667 wrote:Very valid point. As I said, I know he was trying to fire up the upperclassmen...and it clearly worked.
I just don't know what the long-term ramifications are going to be from this.
I hope so. And judging by how the players were acting around Kelly yesterday, it would appear that would be correct. Blanton was laughing with Kelly...Jonas Gray had his arm around Kelly...others stepped up and played great.Hamp89;950673 wrote:Long term ramifications? None IMO. It will be forgotten in a week. They cleared the air "in house". I think all is good going forward. Winning cures all.
I really hope they do because I would love nothing more than for someone to expose Stanford for the pretenders that they are.Tobias Fünke;950504 wrote:I think they're between 11-15 personally. There are some computer models which take into account efficiency that have ND at 11th. Between the 20's this year, they've been largely unstoppable. But we all thought the boneheaded plays would stop, and they haven't. This Notre Dame team would struggle beating a good team because they will do something to **** themselves.
It'll be interesting to see if Notre Dame gets its **** together for the Stanford game. That would be epic.
ytownfootball;950671 wrote:No, I didn't watch the interview in its entirety, but there isn't a "context" issue with what he said. He just should shut the hell up. Even if he claims that he said what he said to motivate them it is just a fail, he hasn't been around there long enough nor won enough games to use that tool effectively, particularly given his actions on the sidelines.
Brian Kelly, midway thru his 2nd year at Notre Dame, has won a bowl game and has 1 win against ND's main rival in 2 tries.WebFire;950609 wrote:Rich Rodriguez said the same kind of shit at Michigan. Always blamed someone else, including the kids. Never took any responsibility for what was happening. He also had some pretty nice meltdowns on the sidelines. Michigan fans defended it for awhile, because he was the coach and no one wants to admit failure at something.
Kelly at ND this year reminds me of RR at Michigan.
Let's get real. It doesn't take a genius to know the things he has said shouldn't be said. Hell, even as a high school coach I would never say those things. No cameras or media there at all.
Sorry, I just don't buy into "he needs to learn" BS. Unless you mean he needs to learn to mask his true personality.
Apparently "winning" is going 5-3.Hamp89;950673 wrote:Long term ramifications? None IMO. It will be forgotten in a week. They cleared the air "in house". I think all is good going forward. Winning cures all.