OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Nov 8, 2011 2:07pm
thePITman;963581 wrote:I voted YES on Issues 2 & 3.
+1bigdaddy2003;963599 wrote:I too voted YES on issues 2 and 3.
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wkfan
Posts: 1,641
Nov 8, 2011 2:13pm
Will be voting No on Issue 1, no on Issue 2 and Yes on Issue 3.
BGFalcons82
Posts: 2,173
Nov 8, 2011 3:26pm
No on 1. Retire at 70 and enjoy your life. Give somebody else a chance to be judge.
Yes on 2. It's time for public employees to do what they demand of taxpayers: To contribute to retirement savings and medical insurance just like the folks that fund the public employees.
Yes on 3. Yes, I know it's symbolic, but I can never vote for ObamaKare.
Yes on 2. It's time for public employees to do what they demand of taxpayers: To contribute to retirement savings and medical insurance just like the folks that fund the public employees.
Yes on 3. Yes, I know it's symbolic, but I can never vote for ObamaKare.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 8, 2011 5:53pm
What is Issue 1?
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 8, 2011 5:59pm
Allows a person to be appointed judge until age 75 instead of 70, or something along those lines.sleeper;963912 wrote:What is Issue 1?
No way I would vote yes for that one.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 8, 2011 6:12pm
Yeah, that's a no for me.Mulva;963916 wrote:Allows a person to be appointed judge until age 75 instead of 70, or something along those lines.
No way I would vote yes for that one.
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Nov 8, 2011 8:07pm
Voted no, yes, yes.
BGFalcons82
Posts: 2,173
Nov 8, 2011 9:55pm
Hmmm...all 8 of Ohio's major newspapers came out against Issue 3. WLW's Bill Cunningham came out against it. Of course, all the Obamabots were against it.
Yet it's passing with a greater margin than the SB5 haters are winning Issue #2. Interesting.
Doesn't really matter much on either issue. The folks that wrote the original SB5 are still in charge and will re-write it. The feds own all the states now, so issue 3 is merely a middle finger to Obama. In this contest, the men in black robes are on stage next.
Yet it's passing with a greater margin than the SB5 haters are winning Issue #2. Interesting.
Doesn't really matter much on either issue. The folks that wrote the original SB5 are still in charge and will re-write it. The feds own all the states now, so issue 3 is merely a middle finger to Obama. In this contest, the men in black robes are on stage next.
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Nov 8, 2011 10:23pm
When the federal government's own Supreme Court orders Ohio to abide by the federal law we will see if we have the nuts to continue to defy them. It will determine if the states have any rights left.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Nov 8, 2011 10:23pm
I still don't think throwing something in the Constitution that is completely useless is the greatest way to send a message like that, regardless of how you feel on the health care issue.
Also, that was the position most of the newspapers took... they took it at that base level, whether you support/oppose the health care mandate wasn't relevant to why they said to vote no.
Also, that was the position most of the newspapers took... they took it at that base level, whether you support/oppose the health care mandate wasn't relevant to why they said to vote no.
Abe Vigoda
Posts: 164
Nov 9, 2011 9:00am
So you suggesting Ohio succeed from the Union?Cleveland Buck;964313 wrote:When the federal government's own Supreme Court orders Ohio to abide by the federal law we will see if we have the nuts to continue to defy them. It will determine if the states have any rights left.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Nov 9, 2011 9:32am
Secede?Abe Vigoda;964554 wrote:So you suggesting Ohio succeed from the Union?
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Nov 9, 2011 9:39am
That's what you got from that?Abe Vigoda;964554 wrote:So you suggesting Ohio succeed from the Union?
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Nov 9, 2011 9:41am
LOL, probably a teacher.Abe Vigoda;964554 wrote:So you suggesting Ohio succeed from the Union?
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Nov 9, 2011 9:50am
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Nov 9, 2011 10:45am
If the Supreme Court gives the thumbs up to the Health Care Law(which is likely at this point)....this will be rendered null and void
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Nov 9, 2011 11:28am
I think that was discussed already.
BGFalcons82
Posts: 2,173
Nov 9, 2011 11:35am
Hey Ty - I know you like to post polls from progessives showing Obama so far out in front that only Jesus Christ would stand a smidgen of a chance against him. The poll results from the people of Ohio yesterday stated that ObamaKare was defeated 66-34. There can be no better poll taken as the group size was registered voters.Ty Webb;964733 wrote:If the Supreme Court gives the thumbs up to the Health Care Law(which is likely at this point)....this will be rendered null and void
By the way, please check who's on the SCOTUS and then tell me it is likely. From all indications that the experts have written, it will come down to Justice Stevens' vote. That is, if Ruth Ginsburg doesn't live that long, then his vote won't be as important.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Nov 10, 2011 9:44am
Voted No, Yes, No.
The last one I voted no on mostly because it has zero power to have any effect.
The last one I voted no on mostly because it has zero power to have any effect.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Nov 10, 2011 5:33pm
They aren't ruling on the law. They're ruling on the Individual Mandate...which is a sure bet to be torched by a 5-4 vote. Then the ball goes back to Bam to find another way to fund his shitty law.Ty Webb;964733 wrote:If the Supreme Court gives the thumbs up to the Health Care Law(which is likely at this point)....this will be rendered null and void
Abe Vigoda
Posts: 164
Nov 11, 2011 11:01am
The majority of funding or sources of new revenue include a much-broadened Medicare tax on incomes over $200,000 and $250,000, for individual and joint filers respectively, an annual fee on insurance providers, and a 40% tax on "Cadillac" insurance policies. There are also taxes on pharmaceuticals, high-cost diagnostic equipment, and a federal sales tax on indoor tanning services. Offsets are from intended cost savings such as improved fairness in the Medicare Advantage program relative to traditional Medicare.fish82;967071 wrote:They aren't ruling on the law. They're ruling on the Individual Mandate...which is a sure bet to be torched by a 5-4 vote. Then the ball goes back to Bam to find another way to fund his ****ty law.
The individual mandate just make sure that people who are currently freeloading off the system by not having insurance pay at least something. Sounds fair to me.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 11, 2011 12:30pm
So basically in short, tax the rich. Sounds awesome!Abe Vigoda;967776 wrote:The majority of funding or sources of new revenue include a much-broadened Medicare tax on incomes over $200,000 and $250,000, for individual and joint filers respectively, an annual fee on insurance providers, and a 40% tax on "Cadillac" insurance policies. There are also taxes on pharmaceuticals, high-cost diagnostic equipment, and a federal sales tax on indoor tanning services. Offsets are from intended cost savings such as improved fairness in the Medicare Advantage program relative to traditional Medicare.
The individual mandate just make sure that people who are currently freeloading off the system by not having insurance pay at least something. Sounds fair to me.
Abe Vigoda
Posts: 164
Nov 11, 2011 2:16pm
Or we can all just not buy health insurance and the hospitals are still required by law to provide services and crash the whole healthcare system. What's your idea of fixing the system?sleeper;967926 wrote:So basically in short, tax the rich. Sounds awesome!
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 11, 2011 2:25pm
Healthcare is the most complicated problem in the country, book it. I do not have a solution, but I don't want the government managing my healthcare, period.Abe Vigoda;968114 wrote:Or we can all just not buy health insurance and the hospitals are still required by law to provide services and crash the whole healthcare system. What's your idea of fixing the system?
I'm sure others on here care enough to tell you their solution to the problem.
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Bigdogg
Posts: 1,429
Nov 16, 2011 11:35am
If you can afford it then there is not a thing in the act that says you don't have the choice to keep what you have or buy even better coverage. Is it not true that if you receive Medicare, the government has been "managing your healthcare" for years already?sleeper;968128 wrote:Healthcare is the most complicated problem in the country, book it. I do not have a solution, but I don't want the government managing my healthcare, period.
I'm sure others on here care enough to tell you their solution to the problem.