Sorry, but I'm not buying into the SEC myth and neither should you.

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Oct 28, 2011 9:57 AM
Let's be honest here. The B1G has some bad teams(Indiana, Minnesota, Purdue, Northwestern), but has anyone actually looked at the SEC East?

Really the only team that should be ranked is South Carolina, but they are barely eeking by with mediocre victories and close wins against sub par competition. Florida, Georgia, Vandy, Kentucky, and Tennessee are all equally as bad as the bottom feeders in the B1G(if not worse).

Now, the SEC West has 2 top ten teams in LSU and Bama, but we all know Arkansas is a fraud after a good ol' fashioned B1G ass whooping Ohio State(a middle of the road B1G team) put on them last year. Let's explore the rest of the SEC west, Auburn is garbage and should have 5 losses, and Ole Miss and Miss St are terrible year in year out.

Can people stop buying into the SEC myth? I know their top team is very good, but when your top team gets to beat up on average competition throughout the year to rest for one big game at the end, it doesn't look as impressive. Let's not even go to the OOC scheduling because its equally as bad in both conferences(and don't try to sell me LSU's schedule this year, Oregon is the only legit team on there and B1G schools have been scheduling one monster game per year for the past half century).
Oct 28, 2011 9:57am
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cats gone wild

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Oct 28, 2011 10:17 AM
I cant find any record of OSU beating Arkansas. Oh wait..........
Oct 28, 2011 10:17am
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Oct 28, 2011 10:32 AM
cats gone wild;948094 wrote:I cant find any record of OSU beating Arkansas. Oh wait..........
God, you're life must suck.
Oct 28, 2011 10:32am
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Oct 28, 2011 10:33 AM
bigkahuna;948112 wrote:God, you're life must suck.
Worse than sleepers? :D
Oct 28, 2011 10:33am
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Oct 28, 2011 10:33 AM
he literally only posts on this site for LSU or OSU related topics. He's the biggest douche in the world, and I hope his rapture comes quickly to get this fucking ***** out of here.
Oct 28, 2011 10:33am
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Oct 28, 2011 10:35 AM
FatHobbit;948114 wrote:Worse than sleepers? :D
Haha.

Believe it or not; if you wade through all of his BS, there is a small % of truth in what sleeper says.
Oct 28, 2011 10:35am
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Oct 28, 2011 11:10 AM
sleeper;948067 wrote:
Now, the SEC West has 2 top ten teams in LSU and Bama, but we all know Arkansas is a fraud after a good ol' fashioned B1G ass whooping Ohio State(a middle of the road B1G team) put on them last year.
I guess the new definition of middle of the pack is one loss, sharing a conference title, and finishing ranked higher than all other B1G schools. I guess OSU should of played Auburn last year instead, considering their final results. But, in your eyes, them being middle of the pack, they should of played Miss St last year.
Oct 28, 2011 11:10am
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Oct 28, 2011 11:31 AM
cats gone wild;948181 wrote:I guess the new definition of middle of the pack is one loss, sharing a conference title, and finishing ranked higher than all other B1G schools. I guess OSU should of played Auburn last year instead, considering their final results. But, in your eyes, them being middle of the pack, they should of played Miss St last year.
This is a different year. No way Arkansas is a top ten team, they would only have 3-4 wins maximum in the B1G.

The SEC bias only continues as long as people don't stand up to it. When people mention how great SEC football is, I simply say "What's the SEC?". To which most respond, "The SouthEastern Conference", to which I respond, "Oh you mean the slackjawed low academic, oversigning, homered, overrated conference that no one outside the south cares about?". Precisely.
Oct 28, 2011 11:31am
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Oct 28, 2011 11:41 AM
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Oct 28, 2011 11:41am
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Oct 28, 2011 11:44 AM
sleeper;948212 wrote: "The SouthEastern Conference", to which I respond, "Oh you mean the slackjawed low academic, oversigning, homered, overrated conference that no one outside the south cares about?". Precisely.
Low academic...yes.
Oversigned...yes.
Homered...yes.

Overrated conference that nobody outside the South cares about...no. Hence an exclusive network TV contract, the highest television contract in cable TV history and the highest ratings in the sport for nearly the last decade.

So, you're 75% right sleeper, which in most grading scales, that would be a "C" average. Certainly you would want to represent with higher than a C?

Of course, go to an SEC school and a "C" is an acceptable grade :)
Oct 28, 2011 11:44am
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Oct 28, 2011 12:08 PM
Azubuike24;948232 wrote:Overrated conference that nobody outside the South cares about...no. Hence an exclusive network TV contract, the highest television contract in cable TV history and the highest ratings in the sport for nearly the last decade.
Almost every conference is progressing towards their own exclusive Network TV contract. The highest contract in history is meaningless, its called inflation, google it. Highest rating is due to the large unemployment in the south, people don't have anything better to do than watch their alma maters beat crappy opponents while the media tells them otherwise. Most people in the North have jobs and don't pay attention to football so they just take whatever the media says and runs with it. That is something to truly brag about.
Oct 28, 2011 12:08pm
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Oct 28, 2011 12:22 PM
The ratings don't just come from the south...

The highest contract in history is applicable as well. I'm aware of inflation, but as time progresses, inflation would say the contact should be topped. It's been 2 years since the SEC signed that deal with ESPN. Let me know what it's topped...

As for unemployment...how about this? As of the end of 2009...by highest rate of unemployment.

1. Michigan
12. Illinois
13. Ohio
15. Indiana

4. South Carolina
9. Georgia
11. Florida
13. Mississippi

I'd say it's pretty comparable. Unemployment in the South and the Midwest is pretty much the same. Louisiana and Arkansas are actually near the bottom in unemployment.
Oct 28, 2011 12:22pm
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Oct 28, 2011 12:52 PM
Azubuike24;948276 wrote:The ratings don't just come from the south...

The highest contract in history is applicable as well. I'm aware of inflation, but as time progresses, inflation would say the contact should be topped. It's been 2 years since the SEC signed that deal with ESPN. Let me know what it's topped...

As for unemployment...how about this? As of the end of 2009...by highest rate of unemployment.

1. Michigan
12. Illinois
13. Ohio
15. Indiana

4. South Carolina
9. Georgia
11. Florida
13. Mississippi

I'd say it's pretty comparable. Unemployment in the South and the Midwest is pretty much the same. Louisiana and Arkansas are actually near the bottom in unemployment.
Oh wow, its been a whole 2 YEARS? Damn. That's pretty incredible considering television deals only average about a month or so in length.

And don't even get me started on employment. When 80% of the south works for Wal-Mart, McDonalds, etc, it leaves plenty of time to watch mediocre football.
Oct 28, 2011 12:52pm
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Oct 28, 2011 2:59 PM
cats gone wild;948094 wrote:I cant find any record of OSU beating Arkansas. Oh wait..........
I have it on DVR ;)
Oct 28, 2011 2:59pm
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Oct 28, 2011 3:13 PM
Pick6;948452 wrote:I have it on DVR ;)
Still, after 10 months>;)
Oct 28, 2011 3:13pm
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Oct 28, 2011 4:50 PM
cfn.com(scout)'s rankings of all 120 teams. This is only one that I know of that ranks all 120 teams.

1.LSU
2.Alabama
7.Arkansas
20.Auburn
21.South Carolina
22.Georgia
27.Florida
29.Tennessee
43.Miss St.
53.Vanderbilt
76.Ole Miss
81.Kentucky
Avg. Position-31.8
Avg. Position of top 4 teams-7.5
Avg. Position of bottom 4 teams-63.25
Avg. Position of East Division-38.8
Avg Position of West Divsion-24.8

15.Michigan State
16.Wisconsin
18.Michigan
24.Penn State
26.Nebraska
30.Ohio State
36.Illinois
41.Iowa
68.Purdue
71.Northwestern
107.Indiana
108.Minnesota
Avg Position-46.7
Avg Position of top 4 teams-18.25
Avg Position of bottom 4 teams-88.5
Avg Position of Leaders-46.8
Avg Position of Legends-46.5

http://cfn.scout.com/2/557948.html
Oct 28, 2011 4:50pm
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Oct 28, 2011 5:36 PM
^ Paper rankings.
Oct 28, 2011 5:36pm
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Oct 28, 2011 6:29 PM
Auburnis ranked 20. What a joke.
Oct 28, 2011 6:29pm
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Oct 28, 2011 8:15 PM
ccrunner609;948642 wrote:stop arguing with stats...some around here wont understand
These aren't stats. These are opinions. That was the entire point of this thread is to show you the difference.

Enjoy mediocrity.
Oct 28, 2011 8:15pm
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Oct 28, 2011 8:23 PM
I think most reasonable people can agree the SEC gets overhyped to an extent but it is without question the best conference and has been for a while. The amount of national champs in a row should be proof enough. And by multiple different teams.
Oct 28, 2011 8:23pm
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Oct 29, 2011 1:01 AM
The SEC is and has been for a number of years the best Football conference in America, hands down, no argument. But, times they are a changing. There is not as big of a gap this year (with the exception of LSU and Alabama) as in past years. The rest of the SEC is pretty mediocre and with the new academic rules coming in a couple years, I doubt if most of the SEC teams will be elible for a bowl game even if they go undefeated, so it may change the way they have to recruit. (not taking all the kids who don't qualify to play at other schools) Something also may be done about the oversigning problem. These 2 things alone could go a long way towards evening a very unbalanced playing field.
Oct 29, 2011 1:01am
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Oct 29, 2011 1:27 AM
I have to agree that the SEC is down this year. Alot of young, rebounding programs. This is the worst year for SEC football since 2002, besides LSU/Bama.
But, 4 in the top 15 isnt too shabby I guess. Even though I think USCe is a HUGE fraud.
Oct 29, 2011 1:27am
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Oct 29, 2011 1:44 AM
The Big Ten is down this year also, when you have to hang your hat on Nebraska or Michigan State as your 2nd best team (assuming that Wisconsin is the best) then you just are not having a great season. OSU and Penn State not being real good is bad for the Big Ten as is a mediocre Michigan. With Minnesota and Indiana being just plain awful and Illinois being exposed as a fraud (as I said they would be) the Big Ten is probably behind the SEC, Big XII and Pac XII this season.
Oct 29, 2011 1:44am
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Oct 29, 2011 8:30 AM
ccrunner609;949067 wrote:the whole system is a frakin opinion. Human polls, computers that can be manipulated..........GTFOH
why are you the way you are?
Oct 29, 2011 8:30am