Tobias Fünke;949606 wrote:I'm not sure who was in charge of that, here's what I do know:

Neither the Sullivan family or the state ever asked for a resignation. The Sullivans never even demanded money (contrary to what you alluded previously in this thread), they recognized that it was a freak accident.

How can you not grasp that? You're a sick mother ****er using Sullivan's death to further your agenda of getting insults in against Notre Dame. Real classy. You must like a great life.

Good to know the Sullivans opinion is better than the law.

And you know damn well the Sullivans got paid to keep quiet.

sleeper;950460 wrote:Good to know the Sullivans opinion is better than the law.

And you know damn well the Sullivans got paid to keep quiet.

Well considering Notre Dame paid the maximum fine under the law...what the fuck are you talking about? No one was ever accused of murder as you would have assumed.

Oh I see, since they said that they never thought about suing the university (some sources said they could have gotten $30 million)....they must have been paid to say that they didn't sue ND? That's retarded on a number of levels, and until you show me something saying that your scenario happened, you'll be considered a lying piece of shit.

It is not possible that the unbiased parties looked at the FACTS and all determined that it was a freak accident, overall negligence, and that no one person was at fault?

A kid died because Brian Kelly and Notre Dame were negligent and no one was punished for it. The attempts to deflect from that truth are pretty slimy.

One of my friends taped practices for ou. I can tell you solich definitely told him where to be and what to tape during practice and afterwards he told him how he wanted the DVDs broken down. I can't speak for any other schools but I know at ou solich oversaw the camera guys himself.

2kool4skool;950471 wrote:A kid died because Brian Kelly and Notre Dame were negligent and no one was punished for it. The attempts to deflect from that truth are pretty slimy.

Who said no one was culpable? They received the max penalty under law. I'm the only one here actually using facts from the incident. You bozos are the ones making shit up to fit your narrative.

sportchampps;950475 wrote:One of my friends taped practices for ou. I can tell you solich definitely told him where to be and what to tape during practice and afterwards he told him how he wanted the DVDs broken down. I can't speak for any other schools but I know at ou solich oversaw the camera guys himself.

No one who read the report is saying that Notre Dame didn't tell him to be there. The important point was that Notre Dame used unreliable weather reports. That is the entire point of the negligence. It was not "Oh gee, wins of 50+ today. I'm a dumbass and want to put a kid up there and see what happens." THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. Notre Dame assumed full responsibility because the entire film crew operates for all sports and they as a university used your everyday vague as hell weather reports which, again, did not say 50+ gusts of wind. That is where the negligence was and the state and family said no one person was solely responsible due to that.

What's really fucked up is how much all of you want Kelly to get fired and thrown in prison just so you can smile. The events most of you assume simply did not happen. Get over it, he's not "a murderer."

Just remember, Notre Dame is a a part of the largest and most advanced organization in the world when it comes to covering up harm done to young men by male authority figures. When they pay hush money, they know what they are doing.

superman;950511 wrote:Just remember, Notre Dame is a a part of the largest and most advanced organization in the world when it comes to covering up harm done to young men by male authority figures. When they pay hush money, they know what they are doing.

Good point. Catholics have a strong recent history of dodging responsibility for crimes committed against young boys.

Notre Dame: Molesting children, manslaughter, that's fine. But don't you DARE lose football games!

dwccrew;949508 wrote:Just for clarity.

Yeah, a statement made after ND's accident when asked directly about the incident. That's proof? Sorry, I wasn't born yesterday.

You really think Tressel (or whatever head coach) makes the direct decision on whether the camera man goes up onto a lift?

dwccrew;949508 wrote:Just for clarity.

Not to mention, Tressel's comment referred to a different day than the actual incident.

Not to mention, the day Tressel said that and practiced indoors, Notre Dame also practiced inside because of the wind.

Tobias Fünke;950464 wrote:Well considering Notre Dame paid the maximum fine under the law...what the **** are you talking about? No one was ever accused of murder as you would have assumed.

Oh I see, since they said that they never thought about suing the university (some sources said they could have gotten $30 million)....they must have been paid to say that they didn't sue ND? That's retarded on a number of levels, and until you show me something saying that your scenario happened, you'll be considered a lying piece of ****.

It is not possible that the unbiased parties looked at the FACTS and all determined that it was a freak accident, overall negligence, and that no one person was at fault?

Oh please...

ND was fined like $80k and for a school with an endowment in the billions its a freaking joke. A real punishment would be firing the negligent coach, the AD, or the President of the University. After all the president, "took responsibility" for it by keeping his job.

Pretty sad that you can't fathom ND settling with the Sullivans outside of court because that's exactly what they did. Book it.

2kool4skool;950603 wrote:Good point. Catholics have a strong recent history of dodging responsibility for crimes committed against young boys.

Notre Dame: Molesting children, manslaughter, that's fine. But don't you DARE lose football games!

+1

WebFire;950620 wrote:Yeah, a statement made after ND's accident when asked directly about the incident. That's proof? Sorry, I wasn't born yesterday.

You really think Tressel (or whatever head coach) makes the direct decision on whether the camera man goes up onto a lift?

WebFire;950622 wrote:Not to mention, Tressel's comment referred to a different day than the actual incident.

karen lotz;950625 wrote:Not to mention, the day Tressel said that and practiced indoors, Notre Dame also practiced inside because of the wind.

I see you guys are still missing the point. What I said has NOTHING to do with what happened at Notre Dame. It was just proving a false statement made by Webfire when he said head coaches don't care about those details, they clearly do.

2kool4skool;950603 wrote:Good point. Catholics have a strong recent history of dodging responsibility for crimes committed against young boys.

Notre Dame: Molesting children, manslaughter, that's fine. But don't you DARE lose football games!

Gotta love blanket statements. They're just so logical!

2kool4skool;950603 wrote:Good point. Catholics have a strong recent history of dodging responsibility for crimes committed against young boys.

Notre Dame: Molesting children, manslaughter, that's fine. But don't you DARE lose football games!

when did this allegedly occur?

sleeper;950627 wrote:Oh please...

ND was fined like $80k and for a school with an endowment in the billions its a freaking joke. A real punishment would be firing the negligent coach, the AD, or the President of the University. After all the president, "took responsibility" for it by keeping his job.

Pretty sad that you can't fathom ND settling with the Sullivans outside of court because that's exactly what they did. Book it.

So are you saying that they didn't receive the max penalty under the law?

Do you have proof that the Sullivan's were paid to keep quiet? No. So go fuck yourself.

2kool4skool;950603 wrote:Good point. Catholics have a strong recent history of dodging responsibility for crimes committed against young boys.

Notre Dame: Molesting children, manslaughter, that's fine. But don't you DARE lose football games!

Smooth.

Tobias Fünke;951067 wrote:So are you saying that they didn't receive the max penalty under the law?

Do you have proof that the Sullivan's were paid to keep quiet? No. So go **** yourself.

Do you have proof that they weren't?

The max penalty under the law is a joke. 80,000 dollars to number damn is like 5 cents to the average person. Needed to be like 50-60 million to have any impact(or do the right thing and FIRE those responsible).

Have proof they weren't? THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T WANT ANY MONEY BECAUSE IT WAS AN ACCIDENT.

The burden of proof is on you, asshole.

Tobias Fünke;951137 wrote:Have proof they weren't? THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T WANT ANY MONEY BECAUSE IT WAS AN ACCIDENT.

The burden of proof is on you, ****.

That's not how it works. Otherwise, I could easily say God doesn't exist and you can't prove that he does, so you are wrong.

Can't have it both ways, sorry. Until you can prove to me that the Sullivans did not receive one dime from ND, then they did and it was probably 30+ million.

sleeper;951151 wrote:That's not how it works. Otherwise, I could easily say God doesn't exist and you can't prove that he does, so you are wrong.

Can't have it both ways, sorry. Until you can prove to me that the Sullivans did not receive one dime from ND, then they did and it was probably 30+ million.

No, that is how it works. Take a fucking law class you clown. You are accusing Notre Dame of paying the Sullivan family to say that they didn't want Notre Dame's money. YOU NEED TO PROVE THAT.

You're a fucking joke.

Tobias Fünke;951163 wrote:Not that is how it works. Take a ****ing law class you clown. You are accusing Notre Dame of paying the Sullivan family to say that they didn't want Notre Dame's money. YOU NEED TO PROVE THAT.

You're a ****ing joke.

I have faith bro. That proves everything.

Whatever go to hell.

Tobias Fünke;951269 wrote:Whatever go to hell.

lol at meltdown

sleeper;951151 wrote:That's not how it works. Otherwise, I could easily say God doesn't exist and you can't prove that he does, so you are wrong.

Can't have it both ways, sorry. Until you can prove to me that the Sullivans did not receive one dime from ND, then they did and it was probably 30+ million.

Wow. Subject aside, this could be the worst analogy of anything I have ever seen.