dwccrew;944457 wrote:If anyone in my family kills themselves I'll LOL along with you.

Ya I'm pretty sure you wouldn't.

enigmaax;944093 wrote:And if all you ****ers ever knew a student who hooked up with a teacher you wouldn't think that was funny either!

september63;943894 wrote:I have read enough dumb ass posts to figure out that no one here has ever lost a family member, relative or good friend to suicide. Ill just say this, If you ever do, you wont be making unsensitive, uneducated ignorant comments about suicide.

My 17 year old cousin took some of those bath salts and killed himself 6 months to this day, and I still have the same opinion on suicide that I've always had; selfish and cowardly. Oh, and don't forget the 3 students in the school I was student teaching at; 1 of them in happening during/in school.

So, take your crying bullshi-t somewhere else.

bigkahuna;947382 wrote:My 17 year old cousin took some of those bath salts and killed himself 6 months to this day, and I still have the same opinion on suicide that I've always had; selfish and cowardly. Oh, and don't forget the 3 students in the school I was student teaching at; 1 of them in happening during/in school.

So, take your crying bullshi-t somewhere else.

Overdosing doesnt necessarily mean he tried to kill himself.

Actually the bath salts cause people to kill themselves they don't overdose. Think a bad trip where a person thinks their covered in snakes and starts stabbing themselves.

I think it takes a lot of guts for someone to kill themself. The reasons for doing so may be cowardly, especially leaving loved ones behind to clean up your "mess", but the act of actually killing yourself has to scary as hell...just sayin'

sportchampps;947922 wrote:Actually the bath salts cause people to kill themselves they don't overdose. Think a bad trip where a person thinks their covered in snakes and starts stabbing themselves.

Ya, it can happen. Just saying does mean it's suicide. Probably doing drugs gone wrong (too big of dose will usually cause a bad trip)

Pick6;948033 wrote:Ya, it can happen. Just saying does mean it's suicide. Probably doing drugs gone wrong (too big of dose will usually cause a bad trip)

He left a note as well explaining why he was doing it and apologizing to his family. The salt just made it easier for him.

Tiger2003;947186 wrote:Ya I'm pretty sure you wouldn't.

Ok

You can have a bad trip from any size of dose just depends on your personality mood and what's in the drugs. I've seen people all eat the same amount of the same shrooms and 6 trip balls and 1 puke and pass out repeatly

So, is suicide selfish and cowardly in an instance lime this: someone gets on that accident drug ( it's a drug used for treatment of acne, if anyone isn't familiar with it). It is the most effective treatment of severe acne bar none. But it's a very powerful drug and one of the side effects of the drug is that it f-cks w your brain somehow and as a consequence has been linked to suicides in individuals who didn't necessarily ha e any history of mental illness prior to taking Accutane.

Another example is certain antidepressants which can increase suicidal ideations in users and lead to suicide. This mimics what seems to happen with the use of bath salts. These substances seem to make it almost uncontrollable for some individuals. Take these drugs and you may very well go off the deep end and kill yourself. The same with mental illness. Your brain isn't working like a normal persons. You don't think rationally and can't see that suiciide is probably not the best answer.

In many ways I believe we are all slaves to the makeup of our brains. And brain chemistry is fragile. You can fuck around with it significantly just by popping a pill or dropping acid. If your brain becomes ill from drugs legal or illegal or just via a mental illness your world becomes Distorted and suicide could almost be out of your control. And some people are more susceptible it seems as Suicides (depression ) runs in the famIly. Because of that element of uncontrollability(?) it's hard to call it cowardly or selfish.

I Am Ahab;949435 wrote:So, is suicide selfish and cowardly in an instance lime this: someone gets on that accident drug ( it's a drug used for treatment of acne, if anyone isn't familiar with it). It is the most effective treatment of severe acne bar none. But it's a very powerful drug and one of the side effects of the drug is that it f-cks w your brain somehow and as a consequence has been linked to suicides in individuals who didn't necessarily ha e any history of mental illness prior to taking Accutane.

Another example is certain antidepressants which can increase suicidal ideations in users and lead to suicide. This mimics what seems to happen with the use of bath salts. These substances seem to make it almost uncontrollable for some individuals. Take these drugs and you may very well go off the deep end and kill yourself. The same with mental illness. Your brain isn't working like a normal persons. You don't think rationally and can't see that suiciide is probably not the best answer.

In many ways I believe we are all slaves to the makeup of our brains. And brain chemistry is fragile. You can **** around with it significantly just by popping a pill or dropping acid. If your brain becomes ill from drugs legal or illegal or just via a mental illness your world becomes Distorted and suicide could almost be out of your control. And some people are more susceptible it seems as Suicides (depression ) runs in the famIly. Because of that element of uncontrollability(?) it's hard to call it cowardly or selfish.

This post is too long to read. It makes me want to kill myself.

dwccrew;949512 wrote:This post is too long to read. It makes me want to kill myself.

I'll sum it up for you. "Is it cowardly/selfish if someone commits suicide because a prescribed medication f'd them up?"

Here's my answer: Apples to Oranges.

bigkahuna;949547 wrote:I'll sum it up for you. "Is it cowardly/selfish if someone commits suicide because a prescribed medication f'd them up?"

Here's my answer: Apples to Oranges.

Agreed. And reps for paraphrasing so I didn't have to read and then kill myself.

dwccrew;949550 wrote:Agreed. And reps for paraphrasing so I didn't have to read and then kill myself.

Reps for not killing yourself. I like the way you post.