DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Oct 16, 2011 6:32pm
You basically bench Hillis for "stone-hands" hardesty, and you run the worst offense in the nfl. Please kindly go fuck yourself.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 16, 2011 6:35pm
I made fun of your for getting a hard on for Jim Harbaugh, because he took an early lead over Oregon last year. Well I take those comments back. I would gladly take Harbaugh over Shurmur any day of the week. The niners talent level is not that much different from the Browns, and Harbaugh has the 49ers competing for the best team in the NFC title right now.DeyDurkie5;935783 wrote:You basically bench Hillis for "stone-hands" hardesty, and you run the worst offense in the nfl. Please kindly go fuck yourself.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Oct 16, 2011 6:37pm
I knew Harbaugh would be a great coach, I didn't get the shurmur hire and I still don't. He has the worst offense, and he benches our best offensive player from last year for a guy who is coming off an acl tear. clueless. Cleveland Browns football is a joke.like_that;935785 wrote:I made fun of your for getting a hard on for Jim Harbaugh, because he took an early lead over Oregon last year. Well I take those comments back. I would gladly take Harbaugh over Shurmur any day of the week. The niners talent level is not that much different from the Browns, and Harbaugh has the 49ers competing for the best team in the NFC title right now.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Oct 16, 2011 6:39pm
Shurmur is a bum, and makes the Mangini/Daboll offensive approach seem like it was crafted by Bill fucking Walsh compared to this bullshit we watch each week.
Listening to him on the radio he is a smug arrogant prick that is too stupid to even understand that there is a problem, and that people are pissed off and fed up already.
Listening to him on the radio he is a smug arrogant prick that is too stupid to even understand that there is a problem, and that people are pissed off and fed up already.
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Oct 16, 2011 6:40pm
The coaching is horrible.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Oct 16, 2011 6:56pm
we should run the no huddle the entire game. McCoy plays a lot better when he is in a hurry.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Oct 16, 2011 7:52pm
Shouldn't your anger be directed at Mike Holmgren? also I like the Please and kindly you have added to your signature phrase.DeyDurkie5;935783 wrote:You basically bench Hillis for "stone-hands" hardesty, and you run the worst offense in the nfl. Please kindly go fuck yourself.
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Oct 16, 2011 7:53pm
that is something that ive noticed. it's not like the offense is juggernaut by going with a huddle. also, he needs to fix this hillis thing yesterdayDeyDurkie5;935818 wrote:we should run the no huddle the entire game. McCoy plays a lot better when he is in a hurry.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Oct 16, 2011 7:53pm
mike holmgren coached the team this year?Skyhook79;935897 wrote:Shouldn't your anger be directed at Mike Holmgren? also I like the Please and kindly you have added to your signature phrase.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Oct 16, 2011 7:55pm
He hired him.DeyDurkie5;935902 wrote:mike holmgren coached the team this year?
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Oct 16, 2011 7:56pm
oh no shit, he did? I didn't know that.Skyhook79;935904 wrote:He hired him.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Oct 16, 2011 7:57pm
+1Skyhook79;935904 wrote:He hired him.
I want to believe in Holmgren. I do like the infusion of young talent on the defense. I actually don't have much gripe on that side of the ball.
Offensively, we suck.
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Oct 16, 2011 8:06pm
the cupboard was really bone-dry on both sides of the ball. heckert will probably need at least and probably two more solid drafts to build it back uphoops23;935907 wrote:+1
I want to believe in Holmgren. I do like the infusion of young talent on the defense. I actually don't have much gripe on that side of the ball.
Offensively, we suck.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 16, 2011 8:14pm
Honest question, why are they paying Holmgren what they are paying him. They brought him in and the first thing he does is hire Heckert to be his GM. You could have just hired Heckert and saved a lot of cash.
Is his role simply to oversee "everybody"?
Is his role simply to oversee "everybody"?
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Oct 16, 2011 8:17pm
Holmgren was not hired as the GM, he was brought in as the Team President.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 16, 2011 8:18pm
I will take Heckert and let Holmgren leave any day to be honest.hoops23;935907 wrote:+1
I want to believe in Holmgren. I do like the infusion of young talent on the defense. I actually don't have much gripe on that side of the ball.
Offensively, we suck.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Oct 16, 2011 8:26pm
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Oct 16, 2011 8:28pm
Hillis wasn't benched, the sideline reporter on the browns network was reporting Hillis was having a hamstring issue and porbably would not be returning to the game.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Oct 16, 2011 8:32pm
LOL...I love when someone posts links to blog sites as credible substantiation.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 16, 2011 8:39pm
Skyhook just tries too hard, he is a fucking idiot.ytownfootball;935956 wrote:LOL...I love when someone posts links to blog sites as credible substantiation.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 16, 2011 9:37pm
I know. That's what I am saying. If he is going to delegate personnel moves, why hire him? Just hire Heckerthoops23;935935 wrote:Holmgren was not hired as the GM, he was brought in as the Team President.
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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
Oct 16, 2011 10:15pm
I agree with Durka here, eventhough he will tell me "Fuck you rydawg" like a 10 year old.
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Oct 16, 2011 10:21pm
Holmgren was hired so Lerner doesn't have to worry about making decisions related to football. That is the smartest thing he has done since the Lerner's owned the Browns. I think it would be great if Lerner would sell the franchise to someone "football oriented" who knows how important football is to NE Ohio. Lerner really cares about his pro soccer team, the browns are just something that provides him spending money....he doesn't really care about winning.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 16, 2011 10:34pm
That's kind of what I was getting at. He pays Holmgren to act like he is the ownerOQB;936116 wrote:Holmgren was hired so Lerner doesn't have to worry about making decisions related to football. That is the smartest thing he has done since the Lerner's owned the Browns. I think it would be great if Lerner would sell the franchise to someone "football oriented" who knows how important football is to NE Ohio. Lerner really cares about his pro soccer team, the browns are just something that provides him spending money....he doesn't really care about winning.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Oct 16, 2011 10:55pm
I completely disagree with that. A bad GM or coach can be fired, but a bad hands-on owner can fuck you for decades.OQB;936116 wrote:I think it would be great if Lerner would sell the franchise to someone "football oriented" who knows how important football is to NE Ohio. Lerner really cares about his pro soccer team, the browns are just something that provides him spending money....he doesn't really care about winning.
I love that he's hands off and let's football people make the football decisions, while at the same time he isn't afraid to spend as much money as is needed to fix the (repeated) bad mistakes this organization makes.