SportsAndLady
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Apr 1, 2012 9:39pm
LAzubuike24;1134163 wrote:Draymond Green wins the NABC POY Award. Keeps Davis from going a unanimous 6 for 6.
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Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Apr 1, 2012 9:43pm
Tom Izzo won COY.
Kinda lame.
However, the Coaches voted here. Not surprising they awarded the only Senior.
Tom Izzo for COY is even more head scratching...
Kinda lame.
However, the Coaches voted here. Not surprising they awarded the only Senior.
Tom Izzo for COY is even more head scratching...
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Apr 1, 2012 9:47pm
From unranked to 1 seed?Azubuike24;1134180 wrote:Tom Izzo won COY.
Tom Izzo for COY is even more head scratching...
wes_mantooth
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Apr 1, 2012 9:53pm
bases_loaded;1134182 wrote:From unranked to 1 seed?
Agreed, this was one of his best coaching jobs.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Apr 1, 2012 9:53pm
Kansas wasn't in the top 15 in most publications.
Also, Izzo has the "POY" on his team, so shouldn't that diminish his coaching a bit?
Bill Self is more deserving. Self's team is 1 game away from a title. Izzo got smashed by a 4-seed...
Also, Izzo has the "POY" on his team, so shouldn't that diminish his coaching a bit?
Bill Self is more deserving. Self's team is 1 game away from a title. Izzo got smashed by a 4-seed...
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Apr 1, 2012 9:57pm
I disagree. MSU had more talent than KU. Far more. Izzo had 2 things working for him.
1. He was coming off a complete debacle. A year when they were ranked preseason top 10 and they totally sucked. That really put expectations low coming into this year.
2. Derrick Nix, 4-star. Keith Appling, 4-star (MCDAA), Adreian Payne, 5-star (MCDAA), Branden Dawson, 5-star (MCDAA) and oh yes, like I mentioned, the NPOY (according to this publication).
MSU did not overachieve nor did Izzo have an insanely great coaching year. He had a good year, yes, not great, not NCOY worthy.
1. He was coming off a complete debacle. A year when they were ranked preseason top 10 and they totally sucked. That really put expectations low coming into this year.
2. Derrick Nix, 4-star. Keith Appling, 4-star (MCDAA), Adreian Payne, 5-star (MCDAA), Branden Dawson, 5-star (MCDAA) and oh yes, like I mentioned, the NPOY (according to this publication).
MSU did not overachieve nor did Izzo have an insanely great coaching year. He had a good year, yes, not great, not NCOY worthy.
Mulva
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Apr 1, 2012 10:08pm
Izzo was not a bad choice for COY at all.
Azubuike24
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Apr 1, 2012 10:20pm
Jim Christian from TCU taking over at OU.
chicago510
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Apr 2, 2012 8:14pm
Myers Leonard going pro. Ouch for Groce. Dumb move IMO.
Mulva
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Apr 2, 2012 10:32pm
I think most people expected that move. He's probably a lottery pick.chicago510;1134759 wrote:Myers Leonard going pro. Ouch for Groce. Dumb move IMO.
Laley23
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Apr 2, 2012 10:37pm
Was Myers Leonard expected to return? He is lottery, why wouldn't he go?
chicago510
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Apr 2, 2012 10:40pm
Is he a lottery pick only because he's 7'1? Reports are his family needed it, so all judgement is off.
Mulva
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Apr 2, 2012 10:42pm
Because he's an athletic 7'1, yeah. I don't think he'll do much in the NBA, but someone will gamble on his potential.chicago510;1135031 wrote:Is he a lottery pick only because he's 7'1?
SportsAndLady
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Apr 2, 2012 10:44pm
Lotz, any opinions of Leonard going in the lottery at 7'1"?
karen lotz
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Apr 2, 2012 10:51pm
Never heard of him. Withey is a volleyball player man.
SportsAndLady
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Apr 2, 2012 10:55pm
Hey I'm not saying I'd draft him or be a KU homer, hell I wouldn't take him 1st round if I were an NBA GM lol my original post said something about I saw at least one 2013 mock draft where he went like 28 overall. You apparently have a huge issue w/ that, i donnokaren lotz;1135058 wrote:Never heard of him. Withey is a volleyball player man.
karen lotz
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Apr 2, 2012 11:01pm
I don't have an issue with it, its just my opinion that he isn't first round ever. I saw one where he goes undrafted.
SportsAndLady
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Apr 2, 2012 11:05pm
Okay lol that's fine? I don't care?karen lotz;1135087 wrote:I don't have an issue with it, its just my opinion that he isn't first round ever. I saw one where he goes undrafted.
I wasn't just like "HEY KAREN, I SAW WITHEY WENT FIRST ROUND IN A MOCK DRAFT, HE'LL GO THERE"
I just said KU has 4 potential future 1st round picks on their team. One of them is Withey because he's 7 foot tall, shoots 82% from the FT line, and has decent game.
karen lotz
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Apr 2, 2012 11:11pm
Ok you obviously have an issue with my opinion when you bring it up on some fucking bum from Illinois because he is 7 feet tall. Withey can block shots and is bad outside of that.
SportsAndLady
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Apr 2, 2012 11:17pm
Because, like a douche, you brought it up on the KU thread...stop putting this on me. I can be quite the douche on here sometimes, but you're just being a retarded fucking moron right now.karen lotz;1135101 wrote:Ok you obviously have an issue with my opinion when you bring it up on some fucking bum from Illinois because he is 7 feet tall. Withey can block shots and is bad outside of that.
I don't have an "issue" with your opinion, I just don't think you really know how "potential" works in the NBA draft. Kosta Fucking Koufas went first round. 68 7 footers have gone in the 1st round since 1990.
robj55
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Apr 2, 2012 11:19pm
Are you trying to compare Withey to Koufos?SportsAndLady;1135109 wrote:Because, like a douche, you brought it up on the KU thread...stop putting this on me. I can be quite the douche on here sometimes, but you're just being a retarded ****ing moron right now.
I don't have an "issue" with your opinion, I just don't think you really know how "potential" works in the NBA draft. Kosta ****ing Koufas went first round. 68 7 footers have gone in the 1st round since 1990.
SportsAndLady
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Apr 2, 2012 11:22pm
Yeah retard, I'm trying to compare a Euro 7 footer to a defensive 7 footerrobj55;1135113 wrote:Are you trying to compare Withey to Koufos?
robj55
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Apr 2, 2012 11:23pm
Someone is sensitive, no need to be disrespectful. Just seemed like you were trying to imply that Withey is anywhere near the player that Koufos is.SportsAndLady;1135123 wrote:Yeah retard, I'm trying to compare a Euro 7 footer to a defensive 7 footer
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Apr 2, 2012 11:26pm
SportsAndLady;1135109 wrote:Because, like a douche, you brought it up on the KU thread...stop putting this on me. I can be quite the douche on here sometimes, but you're just being a retarded fucking moron right now.
I don't have an "issue" with your opinion, I just don't think you really know how "potential" works in the NBA draft. Kosta Fucking Koufas went first round. 68 7 footers have gone in the 1st round since 1990.
I don't know how potential works in the NBA but you do?
Koufas >>> Karch Kiraly Jr
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 2, 2012 11:31pm
The Koufus point was that he was fucking terrible, but went mid-20's because he was 7 feet and had "potential"robj55;1135126 wrote:Someone is sensitive, no need to be disrespectful. Just seemed like you were trying to imply that Withey is anywhere near the player that Koufos is.
Same with Withey.