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Oct 14, 2011 11:21 AM
Bennett has been very good to excellent.
Oct 14, 2011 11:21am
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Oct 14, 2011 11:27 AM
Devin Smith, this kid is going to be a stud
Oct 14, 2011 11:27am
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Oct 14, 2011 9:09 PM
What did I say that was trolling in the slightest?

I'm just not a homer and am realistic. It's hard to compliment too many Buckyes when they have looked so bad as a team.
Oct 14, 2011 9:09pm
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Oct 14, 2011 9:25 PM
Good: Jordan Hall, Carlos Hyde, Jake Stoneburner, Simon, Hankins, Buchanan
Bad: Bauserman, Shugarts, Klein, Moeller, Bollman / Siciliano
Showing/showed flashes: Roby, Miller, Rod Smith, Devin Smith
In over their head: Fickell
Oct 14, 2011 9:25pm
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Oct 14, 2011 9:27 PM
I don't think Shugarts has been horrible except for getting the damn snap count right.
Oct 14, 2011 9:27pm
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Oct 14, 2011 9:49 PM
Shugarts has been okay, but it's beyond me why he has a false start every single game.

Modeler played better against Nebraska, but he's been nonexistent this year. Hard to have high expectations though.
Oct 14, 2011 9:49pm
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Oct 14, 2011 11:49 PM
thedynasty1998;933694 wrote:What did I say that was trolling in the slightest?

I'm just not a homer and am realistic. It's hard to compliment too many Buckyes when they have looked so bad as a team.
I think its just your overall attitude about the Buckeyes
Oct 14, 2011 11:49pm
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Oct 15, 2011 8:34 AM
KR1245;933861 wrote:I think its just your overall attitude about the Buckeyes
This. Constant negativity is not being a realist.
Oct 15, 2011 8:34am
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Oct 15, 2011 10:57 AM
thedynasty1998;933694 wrote:What did I say that was trolling in the slightest?

I'm just not a homer and am realistic. It's hard to compliment too many Buckyes when they have looked so bad as a team.
a decent amount of players have played well, can't blame the team for bauserman, and fickells playcalling/lack of coaching ability. You are negative in the worst way, not a realist. A realist would see that a lot of the players have done well, not criticize the whole team over a few bad eggs. artard.
Oct 15, 2011 10:57am
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Oct 15, 2011 11:09 AM
DeyDurkie5;934109 wrote:a decent amount of players have played well, can't blame the team for bauserman, and fickells playcalling/lack of coaching ability. You are negative in the worst way, not a realist. A realist would see that a lot of the players have done well, not criticize the whole team over a few bad eggs. artard.
bauserman had nothing to do with giving up 28 points in a quarter and a half to a run heavy team. Time to find a new "out".
Oct 15, 2011 11:09am
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Oct 15, 2011 11:24 AM
Pick6;934115 wrote:bauserman had nothing to do with giving up 28 points in a quarter and a half to a run heavy team. Time to find a new "out".
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that was a great offense run by him to keep the defense off the field:rolleyes:. You guys can criticize the defense all you want, but when they had an offense in the first half, they did a great job of keeping nebraska in check. In the second half, you saw 3 and outs left and right and a tired defense trying to stop nebraska. You can blame the defense all you want, but in my eyes a poor offense in the second half tired out our stout defense. Causing them to break.
Oct 15, 2011 11:24am
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Oct 15, 2011 11:30 AM
DeyDurkie5;934127 wrote:\

that was a great offense run by him to keep the defense off the field:rolleyes:. You guys can criticize the defense all you want, but when they had an offense in the first half, they did a great job of keeping nebraska in check. In the second half, you saw 3 and outs left and right and a tired defense trying to stop nebraska. You can blame the defense all you want, but in my eyes a poor offense in the second half tired out our stout defense. Causing them to break.
Time of possession:
OSU: 29:17 Nebraska 30:43
Looks to me the offense was on the field just as much as the defense. If these guys cant play 30 minutes without getting tired, there is something wrong. The offense scored 27 points, with one of the "best" defenses in the country, that should be enough to win 99% of games. Blaming the offense for the defense's struggles is just another cop out.
Oct 15, 2011 11:30am
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Oct 15, 2011 11:32 AM
Pick6;934130 wrote:Time of possession:
OSU: 29:17 Nebraska 30:43
Looks to me the offense was on the field just as much as the defense. If these guys cant play 30 minutes without getting tired, there is something wrong. The offense scored 27 points, with one of the "best" defenses in the country, that should be enough to win 99% of games. Blaming the offense for the defense's struggles is just another cop out.
that number is skewed. do you not know how to have an argument? you are pulling information that,if you watched the game, would know was skewed for each half. We dominated the first half offensively, which helped the defense make adjustments/get rested. second half, our offense was attrocious, and our defense suffered for it. It's not a cop out, you are blaming the defense, wwhich is a copout. Watch the game again, and quit blaming the defense, ya jackass
Oct 15, 2011 11:32am
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Oct 15, 2011 11:33 AM
Nebraska's drives in the second half:
15:00 3 01:05 NEB 5 3 8 Punt
10:53 3 01:38 NEB 30 3 8 Punt
07:54 3 00:31 NEB 23 2 24 Rushing Touchdown
04:21 3 02:37 NEB 20 7 80 Passing Touchdown
13:31 4 02:04 NEB 9 5 24 Punt
10:26 4 02:51 NEB 29 7 72 Passing Touchdown
06:29 4 01:19 NEB 22 4 78 Rushing Touchdown
04:02 4 04:02 NEB 33 10 43 End of Half
OSU's drives in second half:
13:55 3 03:02 OSU 47 7 47 Rushing Touchdown
09:15 3 01:21 OSU 11 3 5 Fumble
07:23 3 03:02 OSU 22 5 11 Punt
01:44 3 03:13 OSU 31 7 32 Punt
11:27 4 01:01 OSU 27 3 2 Punt
07:35 4 01:06 OSU 22 3 16 Interception
05:10 4 01:08 OSU 23 3 -1 Punt
Outside of the last drive to end the game, total plays were even at 31. Saying OSU's defense was tired because they were averaging 4.4 snaps per drive is a very poor excuse.
Oct 15, 2011 11:33am
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Oct 15, 2011 11:35 AM
karen lotz;934133 wrote:Nebraska's drives in the second half:
15:00 3 01:05 NEB 5 3 8 Punt
10:53 3 01:38 NEB 30 3 8 Punt
07:54 3 00:31 NEB 23 2 24 Rushing Touchdown
04:21 3 02:37 NEB 20 7 80 Passing Touchdown
13:31 4 02:04 NEB 9 5 24 Punt
10:26 4 02:51 NEB 29 7 72 Passing Touchdown
06:29 4 01:19 NEB 22 4 78 Rushing Touchdown
04:02 4 04:02 NEB 33 10 43 End of Half

OSU's drives in second half:
13:55 3 03:02 OSU 47 7 47 Rushing Touchdown
09:15 3 01:21 OSU 11 3 5 Fumble
07:23 3 03:02 OSU 22 5 11 Punt
01:44 3 03:13 OSU 31 7 32 Punt
11:27 4 01:01 OSU 27 3 2 Punt
07:35 4 01:06 OSU 22 3 16 Interception
05:10 4 01:08 OSU 23 3 -1 Punt

Outside of the last drive to end the game, total plays were even at 31. Saying OSU's defense was tired because they were averaging 4.4 snaps per drive is a very poor excuse.
if you watched the game, you could see the swing. Defense couldn't stop them, offense couldn't score any points. To blame the defense is just as retarded as blaming the offense is what i'm saying.
Oct 15, 2011 11:35am
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Oct 15, 2011 11:36 AM
What is the point in arguing who played worse in the loss?

It was a TOTAL TEAM collapse from top to bottom. Coaches, offense and defense. Bauserman's pathetic play definitely contributed to that meltdown. Also, don't forget Bollman's genius playcalling when JB got in.

Sure the D was getting gashed, but where were the adjustments?
Oct 15, 2011 11:36am
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Oct 15, 2011 11:36 AM
DeyDurkie5;934135 wrote:if you watched the game, you could see the swing. Defense couldn't stop them, offense couldn't score any points. To blame the defense is just as retarded as blaming the offense is what i'm saying.
Exactly.
Oct 15, 2011 11:36am
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Oct 15, 2011 11:36 AM
OSU answered Nebraska's 7 play scoring drive with a 7 play drive of their own that was the longest drive (prior to the last drive) of the second half time wise plus it included the break between the 3rd and 4th quarters.
Oct 15, 2011 11:36am
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Oct 15, 2011 11:39 AM
I'm not blaming either side. I'm saying that the "defense was tired" excuse makes no sense if you actually watched the game and look at how it played out. The defense might have suffered an emotional let down when Miller got hurt, but that is partly their fault as well. They still held a 2 touchdown lead at that point and were plenty fresh.
Oct 15, 2011 11:39am
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Oct 15, 2011 11:40 AM
karen lotz;934140 wrote:OSU answered Nebraska's 7 play scoring drive with a 7 play drive of their own that was the longest drive (prior to the last drive) of the second half time wise plus it included the break between the 3rd and 4th quarters.
if you watched the game, you saw the shift. I agree with auto, the coahces are more to blame than anything for the terrible adjustments. Also, you are a *** lotz. Of your 17,000 posts(which in itself is mind boggling), are 12,000 of those on osu threads?
Oct 15, 2011 11:40am
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Oct 15, 2011 11:43 AM
I did watch the game. Again, I'm saying the shift wasn't the result of being tired, that is just a weak excuse.
Oct 15, 2011 11:43am
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Oct 15, 2011 11:46 AM
Yeah the "shift" was the result of playing like absolute shit and not being able to stop them, along with having incompetent coaches and our #1 QB on the sidelines.
Oct 15, 2011 11:46am
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Oct 15, 2011 11:54 AM
DeyDurkie5;934135 wrote:if you watched the game, you could see the swing. Defense couldn't stop them, offense couldn't score any points. To blame the defense is just as retarded as blaming the offense is what i'm saying.
I watched the fucking game. I dont see where I said there wasnt a "swing" in momentum. You are blaming Bauserman for the defenses mistakes. And saying the defense was tired because of Bauserman. THE DEFENSE WAS ON THE FIELD JUST AS MUCH AS THE OFFENSE. Get a fucking clue.

And lol at calling this defense "stout". This is one of the worst defenses we have had in sometime minus the secondary.
Oct 15, 2011 11:54am
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Oct 15, 2011 11:58 AM
karen lotz;934133 wrote:Nebraska's drives in the second half:
15:00 3 01:05 NEB 5 3 8 Punt
10:53 3 01:38 NEB 30 3 8 Punt
07:54 3 00:31 NEB 23 2 24 Rushing Touchdown
04:21 3 02:37 NEB 20 7 80 Passing Touchdown
13:31 4 02:04 NEB 9 5 24 Punt
10:26 4 02:51 NEB 29 7 72 Passing Touchdown
06:29 4 01:19 NEB 22 4 78 Rushing Touchdown
04:02 4 04:02 NEB 33 10 43 End of Half


OSU's drives in second half:
13:55 3 03:02 OSU 47 7 47 Rushing Touchdown
09:15 3 01:21 OSU 11 3 5 Fumble
07:23 3 03:02 OSU 22 5 11 Punt
01:44 3 03:13 OSU 31 7 32 Punt
11:27 4 01:01 OSU 27 3 2 Punt
07:35 4 01:06 OSU 22 3 16 Interception
05:10 4 01:08 OSU 23 3 -1 Punt


Outside of the last drive to end the game, total plays were even at 31. Saying OSU's defense was tired because they were averaging 4.4 snaps per drive is a very poor excuse.
The one Nebraska drive that you have as starting on their 23 really started on OSU's 23, didn't it? Since you have them scoring in two plays covering 24 yards. To me, that was the beginning of things. Nebraska scoring on a short field starting to change the momentum. Then, when Miller went down on their next drive and Cap'n Accuracy came in, that was a huge swing. And Cap'n Accuracy being unable to move the ball (nearly half of that 7/32 drive was a penalty on the Huskers; he was 1-4, 13 yards) just added to it.

A combination of a mistake by Miller (the fumble), an inept injury replacement (Bauserman), a younger-than-usual team getting down and a coaching staff unable to do anything to pull them up. It's not all on Cap'n Accuracy, but when a guy comes in to help maintain a lead and goes 1-10 with a pick, that's just sad. Looking at the box score, Miller had a 203.5 rating while he was in. For Nebraska, Martinez was at 166.6. Bauserman was at 0.9. I didn't even know college QB ratings went that low. ZERO-POINT-FUCKING-NINE! That was my fucking GPA halfway through my first quarter at Ohio U.
Oct 15, 2011 11:58am
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Oct 15, 2011 12:04 PM
Heretic;934159 wrote:The one Nebraska drive that you have as starting on their 23 really started on OSU's 23, didn't it? Since you have them scoring in two plays covering 24 yards. To me, that was the beginning of things. Nebraska scoring on a short field starting to change the momentum. Then, when Miller went down on their next drive and Cap'n Accuracy came in, that was a huge swing. And Cap'n Accuracy being unable to move the ball (nearly half of that 7/32 drive was a penalty on the Huskers; he was 1-4, 13 yards) just added to it.

A combination of a mistake by Miller (the fumble), an inept injury replacement (Bauserman), a younger-than-usual team getting down and a coaching staff unable to do anything to pull them up. It's not all on Cap'n Accuracy, but when a guy comes in to help maintain a lead and goes 1-10 with a pick, that's just sad. Looking at the box score, Miller had a 203.5 rating while he was in. For Nebraska, Martinez was at 166.6. Bauserman was at 0.9. I didn't even know college QB ratings went that low. ZERO-POINT-FUCKING-NINE! That was my fucking GPA halfway through my first quarter at Ohio U.
He shouldnt have even been throwing the ball. Why would you pass when up 21 points in the middle of the third quarter??????
Oct 15, 2011 12:04pm