Belly35;928868 wrote:What is Belly American?
At a TEA Party Rally I can carry my weapon and others also are packing, hate or violence is never an issue, we clean up after we leave, respect others points of view and share our differences of ethic back ground for the common goal of less government and spending and wastefulness of the political system.

What is Ty America?
Wall Street Rally not guns, no respect, no view points, blame, wants, give me and entitlements. Drugs, filth, destruction, violence and vandalism are those the what America Union worker holds as the view of America?

Are you fucking kidding me Belly? You have never seen any evidence of hate or violence at a Tea "Party" rally? How about people saying "Shoot Obama" or speakers saying they may need to "use force" to remove the "bastard Dems" from DC? I've heard those things because I have attended Tea Party rallies

Also,how have these people used violence? Have they tried to attack police officers? have they tired to attack Wall Street workers? No they havent. All I've seen is people holding up signs and chanting? Kinda sounds like how the Tea Party started right?

Also,you aren't a real American is you don't own or carry a gun? Count me as Un-American then I guess.

These people also have no view points? Just because you don't like what they want of what they are saying doesn't mean they don't have a view point Belly.

What are they destructing Belly? Please tell me...I would like to know

Also....since when did the Tea Party become respecting of other view points?

BGFalcons82;928897 wrote:I have no idea why you can't understand the difference, but so be it. Ignorance is bliss I suppose.

It's hard to understand the difference when there is NO difference

Ty Webb;928943 wrote:I've heard those things because I have attended Tea Party rallies

I call bullshit.

FatHobbit;928981 wrote:I call bullshit.

I concur. I've read enough of Ty's posts to know he is the kind of guy who would say he has attended Tea Party events in hopes that his claims that the members are all racist idiots would be validated.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/10/lawmakers-pick-sides-as-wall-street-protests-mount/

[LEFT]Along with the September declaration, a related 55-page document posted online includes ideas for a "new economic charter." Among the suggestions is a new salary structure, through which doctors would be paid $28,000; lawyers would be paid $27,500; teachers would be paid $35,000; and bankers would be paid $20,000. Under that suggestion, submitted by one unnamed member of the "charter collaborative," the president would take home a cool $40,000

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/10/lawmakers-pick-sides-as-wall-street-protests-mount/#ixzz1aPHKa2s8 [/LEFT]

I hope those involved in this make sure to mention it on the resume the next time they are applying for jobs.

http://www.bloomberg.com/money-gallery/2011-10-10/revisiting-occupy-wall-street-.html#slide2

Check out these turds and their quotes...

[h=1]James Strauss, 24, Manhattan, unemployed[/h]"Corporations went from being a structured group of people doings omething for the community to being a conglomerate with their own best interests at heart."

[h=1]Nicholas Croce, 19, Rochester, N.Y., student[/h]"There's an imbalance between the people who have wealth and those who don't. The people are being drowned out. That's why the 99 percent is becoming a motto. It's because they're not being heard."

[h=1]Cherise Madigan, 18, Rochester, N.Y., student[/h]"We need to start working as a collective unit as society. There's too much focus on individual wealth."

[h=1]Marsha Spencer, 56, Manhattan, unemployed[/h]"It's our duty to change something if we see something that's wrong. The direction the country is going right now, I can't see a good future for my five grandchildren. It might take a full generation to get things fixed because it took that long for it to go downhill."

[h=1]Patrick Lacoursiere, 19, Groton, Conn., unemployed[/h]"It tends to be different for each person but the common enemy is the corporate greed and capitalism on Wall Street. I don't think so few people should have so much money when so many people are left inpoverty."

[h=1]Nicole Morris, 18, Boston, student[/h]"Campaign finance reform is the main one for me. We need to get moneyout of politics. We need elections that are for the people, not boughtby the corporations."

[h=1]Roberto Rivera, 59, Yonkers, doctor[/h]"I'm glad that at last the youth of America is able to stand on two feet and take a position that millions of people around the world have taken that they will not be intimidated by the capitalist free market paradigm and they will fight against gross inequality in distribution of income and assets."

[h=1]John Cortes, 46, Staten Island, N.Y., self-employed artist and ex-Marine[/h]"We need to prosecute those responsible for the inequality that is happening. In this country, it used to be that you rose up to a level. That was the American way. You rose on your own. It's just a few people behind closed doors deciding our future and that's not right."

Wow.

If the compensation structure was changed on Wall Street, it might bring about some good. The best and brightest go there because Wall Street simply pays the best (or hedge funds/private equity, usually Wall Street is a stepping stone to the big payday there). But to quote Jack Welch, it's "cash and carry", meaning they don't create any real value. Does beg the question of what might happen if all that talent was working for corporations.

Ty Webb;928943 wrote:Are you fucking kidding me Belly? You have never seen any evidence of hate or violence at a Tea "Party" rally? How about people saying "Shoot Obama" or speakers saying they may need to "use force" to remove the "bastard Dems" from DC? I've heard those things because I have attended Tea Party rallies

The only violence at any TEA Party Rally was those created from the opposing side and Union thugs. I would like to see those signs if there is any, it should be easy to find something on YouTube. provide proof mofo Can you produce such footage? You have never been to a TEA Party Rally because you don't have the individuality or fortitude you are a follower incapable of doing anything on your own and that the Union Way.

Also,how have these people used violence? Have they tried to attack police officers? have they tired to attack Wall Street workers? No they havent. All I've seen is people holding up signs and chanting? Kinda sounds like how the Tea Party started right?

Blocking streets to distrute the flow of traffic and police, fire and ems is not a means of intruding on other rights and a form of violences

Also,you aren't a real American is you don't own or carry a gun? Count me as Un-American then I guess.

OK as you wish socialist mofo

These people also have no view points? Just because you don't like what they want of what they are saying doesn't mean they don't have a view point Belly.

Did you read the list of demands and have you listened to anything If this is about jobs turn your happy ass around and march on Obama mofo

What are they destructing Belly? Please tell me...I would like to know

When this group leaves what will the cost of the clean up be? What has it cost already in terms of tax payer money

Also....since when did the Tea Party become respecting of other view points?

In a TEA Party Rally in Canton the organizer invited and provide a platform for politican to debate and comment on their party political views w/ local news media to cover the issues. Fair and Balances

gut;928901 wrote:Dumb rednecks vs. dumb hippies. I just want a smaller govt.

+1

OneBuckeye;929030 wrote:Wow.

What was wrong with the one from Nicole Morris?

I Wear Pants;929108 wrote:What was wrong with the one from Nicole Morris?

I just copied and pasted the whole lot, so people could get a feel for the whole range of topics things these people are for... I agree about the campaign finances but to to suggest the corporations are the only cause of the problem is dumb. Also, I didn't realize this sit in was about campaign financing...

OneBuckeye;929114 wrote:I just copied and pasted the whole lot, so people could get a feel for the whole range of topics things these people are for... I agree about the campaign finances but to to suggest the corporations are the only cause of the problem is dumb. Also, I didn't realize this sit in was about campaign financing...

It's about a lot of stuff.

And she didn't suggest at all that corporations were the only cause of the problem. Saying "we need to get corporations out of campaign financing" isn't excluding anything else from being a problem.

Belly35;929068 wrote:The only violence at any TEA Party Rally was those created from the opposing side and Union thugs. I would like to see those signs if there is any, it should be easy to find something on YouTube. provide proof mofo Can you produce such footage? You have never been to a TEA Party Rally because you don't have the individuality or fortitude you are a follower incapable of doing anything on your own and that the Union Way.




Blocking streets to distrute the flow of traffic and police, fire and ems is not a means of intruding on other rights and a form of violences

OK as you wish socialist mofo



Did you read the list of demands and have you listened to anything If this is about jobs turn your happy ass around and march on Obama mofo

When this group leaves what will the cost of the clean up be? What has it cost already in terms of tax payer money

In a TEA Party Rally in Canton the organizer invited and provide a platform for politican to debate and comment on their party political views w/ local news media to cover the issues. Fair and Balances

So blocking a street is violence?

I think Obama would get a bipartisan bill passed that would do the following:

1. Appropriate money for the purchase of brooms, hoses, nozzles, dumpsters, environmental protection-suits, infection-control masks and de-lousing agents.
2. Hire the "occupiers" as day laborers, paying them prevailing wages.
3. Give them the tools to clean up their messes, their urine/feces, their scumbags, hose it all down, and celebrate having an Obama Porkulus II temporary job. See how many jobs Barry would create, including the broom and hose industries? What a photo-op for our wonderful superb job-creating President!!

The old Boy Scout motto of leaving the place cleaner and neater than they found it sure goes a long way, doesn't it? Oh wait...I forgot...Boy Scouts are homophobes. Therefore their ideas about conservation and hygiene are forever verbotten. Such old fuddy-duddys shouldn't have any say-so.

Ty Webb;929153 wrote:So blocking a street is violence?

That's it ... That all you got ? weak mofo weak :laugh:

Ty blocking the operation and the function of a city and it people is violence
Violence: an unjust or unwarranted exertion of force or power, as against rights or laws:

BGFalcons82;929158 wrote:I think Obama would get a bipartisan bill passed that would do the following:

1. Appropriate money for the purchase of brooms, hoses, nozzles, dumpsters, environmental protection-suits, infection-control masks and de-lousing agents.
2. Hire the "occupiers" as day laborers, paying them prevailing wages.
3. Give them the tools to clean up their messes, their urine/feces, their scumbags, hose it all down, and celebrate having an Obama Porkulus II temporary job. See how many jobs Barry would create, including the broom and hose industries? What a photo-op for our wonderful superb job-creating President!!

The old Boy Scout motto of leaving the place cleaner and neater than they found it sure goes a long way, doesn't it? Oh wait...I forgot...Boy Scouts are pedophiles. Therefore their ideas about conservation and hygiene are forever verbotten. Such old fuddy-duddys shouldn't have any say-so.

FIFY

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scouting_sex_abuse_cases

I'm still laughing at the juvenile name-calling and typical partisan rhetoric going on in this thread.

Instead of mocking these protesters you should at least be finding something you can agree on so that we can all quit quarreling about the kind of America we want to see while politicians on the left and right do nothing and get rich.

Even though some loser democrats (Al Sharpton, etc.) are trying to hijack the protests and act like this is the "democratic answer to the Tea Party", Democrats and Republicans are equally to blame for letting Wall Street drive our economy off a cliff. What's so liberal about wanting to hold Wall Street accountable for the financial crisis?

When did America become about "Well I don't agree with you on everything, that means I can't agree with you on anything." ? Probably around the time that Dems and Reps starting telling people what their stance should be on issues instead of the other way around.

Oh and I get the whole "lol hippies" thing because when the tea party was doing their thing I was all "lol rednecks". That doesn't make it right, or mature.

Mooney44Cards;929228 wrote:I'm still laughing at the juvenile name-calling and typical partisan rhetoric going on in this thread.

Instead of mocking these protesters you should at least be finding something you can agree on so that we can all quit quarreling about the kind of America we want to see while politicians on the left and right do nothing and get rich.

Even though some loser democrats (Al Sharpton, etc.) are trying to hijack the protests and act like this is the "democratic answer to the Tea Party", Democrats and Republicans are equally to blame for letting Wall Street drive our economy off a cliff. What's so liberal about wanting to hold Wall Street accountable for the financial crisis?

When did America become about "Well I don't agree with you on everything, that means I can't agree with you on anything." ? Probably around the time that Dems and Reps starting telling people what their stance should be on issues instead of the other way around.

Oh and I get the whole "lol hippies" thing because when the tea party was doing their thing I was all "lol rednecks". That doesn't make it right, or mature.

Reps.

Ty Webb;929153 wrote:So blocking a street is violence?

no, but it is infringining on the rights of others....

Mooney44Cards;929228 wrote:I'm still laughing at the juvenile name-calling and typical partisan rhetoric going on in this thread.

Instead of mocking these protesters you should at least be finding something you can agree on so that we can all quit quarreling about the kind of America we want to see while politicians on the left and right do nothing and get rich.

Even though some loser democrats (Al Sharpton, etc.) are trying to hijack the protests and act like this is the "democratic answer to the Tea Party", Democrats and Republicans are equally to blame for letting Wall Street drive our economy off a cliff. What's so liberal about wanting to hold Wall Street accountable for the financial crisis?

When did America become about "Well I don't agree with you on everything, that means I can't agree with you on anything." ? Probably around the time that Dems and Reps starting telling people what their stance should be on issues instead of the other way around.

Oh and I get the whole "lol hippies" thing because when the tea party was doing their thing I was all "lol rednecks". That doesn't make it right, or mature.

stop telling me what i have to believe in and how i should feel about these protests.

Glory Days;929253 wrote:stop telling me what i have to believe in and how i should feel about these protests.

Ya if this is your response to someone who is trying to find some common ground and be civil, I could never convince you of anything ever so I wasn't really talking to you to begin with.

"What's so liberal about wanting to hold Wall Street accountable for the financial crisis?"

Because it ignores the government's (particularly the current administration's) failure in the crisis.

Again, if the DEMS support this, they've gone full retard.

Manhattan Buckeye;929271 wrote: Because it ignores the government's (particularly the current administration's) failure in the crisis.

I score it approximately:

Fed: 25%
other Central Banks: 15%
FNMA/FMAC: 20%
Wall Street: 20%
Washington: 10%
home owners: 10% (imagine that! flipping, buying more than they can afford, not understanding their mortgage...they know who they are)

Manhattan Buckeye;929271 wrote:"What's so liberal about wanting to hold Wall Street accountable for the financial crisis?"

Because it ignores the government's (particularly the current administration's) failure in the crisis.

Again, if the DEMS support this, they've gone full retard.

Acknowledging that Wall Street has played a hand in this crisis doesn't mean nothing else did. You completely ignoring that Wall Street had anything to do with the crisis is a bit ridiculous.