Mizery turns down the SEC to stay in Big 12

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Sep 22, 2011 10:41 PM
Missouri has turned down an opportunity to join the Southeastern Conference, leaving the league in search of a 14th member.

The school announced Thursday it would remain part of the Big 12 after Texas apparently agreed to a more equitable revenue sharing arrangement that had led Texas A&M to leave the Big 12 for the SEC earlier this month.
http://www.nola.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/09/missouri_rejects_sec_opportuni.html

Did Missouri just save the Big 12?
Sep 22, 2011 10:41pm
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Sep 22, 2011 10:45 PM
That's bad news for the SEC. Missouri would be their best program because they follow the rules unlike the other 12 members.
Sep 22, 2011 10:45pm
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Sep 22, 2011 10:46 PM
SportsAndLady;907503 wrote:
Did Missouri just save the Big 12?

No, saving for B1G
Sep 22, 2011 10:46pm
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Sep 22, 2011 10:48 PM
the Longhorn Network saved the Big XII
Sep 22, 2011 10:48pm
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Sep 22, 2011 11:10 PM
karen lotz;907511 wrote:the Longhorn Network saved the Big XII
This. The Big XII is having its cake and eating it too. Everyone gets equal revenue sharing, and Texas gets to receive its extra $$$$$ from LHN
Sep 22, 2011 11:10pm
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Sep 22, 2011 11:17 PM
ernest_t_bass;907507 wrote:No, saving for B1G
Could be. I have a feeling they would have been in for sure if ND would have joined when Nebraska did. Instead the B1G stopped at 12 to wait on ND before going to 14 with Missouri.
Sep 22, 2011 11:17pm
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Sep 22, 2011 11:20 PM
bigkahuna;907523 wrote:This. The Big XII is having its cake and eating it too. Everyone gets equal revenue sharing, and Texas gets to receive its extra $$$$$ from LHN
More like everyone has a piece of cake....it's just Texas has a huge slice of cake. Which isn't really different than it was before.
Sep 22, 2011 11:20pm
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Sep 22, 2011 11:25 PM
A big gain for the SEC. They didnt need Missouri. They should want a better all around sports school.
Sep 22, 2011 11:25pm
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Sep 22, 2011 11:25 PM
the_system;907530 wrote:More like everyone has a piece of cake....it's just Texas has a huge slice of cake. Which isn't really different than it was before.
Texas did have a bigger piece of cake. Now, they have the same size piece of cake, but they have an apple pie that they left at home for themselves.
Sep 22, 2011 11:25pm
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Sep 22, 2011 11:26 PM
I wonder what this means for aTm. They can't join the SEC as the 13th member and just have at it. That'd be a nightmare for scheduling. How long do they wait? OR, do they say screw it and come back?
Sep 22, 2011 11:26pm
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Sep 23, 2011 12:03 AM
The SEC will have no problem plucking a team from the Big East or ACC if they need 14. They could easily do 13 for awhile though, there are plenty of teams who play OOC games or have byes late in the season.
Sep 23, 2011 12:03am
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Sep 23, 2011 12:21 AM
They probably go for West Virginia, but if they do WV will really need to upgrade that defense to win very many games. Florida State or Miami would be perfect but I don't see either leaving the newly expanded ACC.
Sep 23, 2011 12:21am
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Sep 23, 2011 12:29 AM
The Big 12 still only has 9 teams though. So where do they look now? The 2 obvious choices would seem to be BYU and TCU (if they could lure them away from BYU-TV and Big East).

Maybe pluck up a CUSA team as a 12th?
Sep 23, 2011 12:29am
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Sep 23, 2011 12:44 AM
^^^Boise is lining up presidents from the Big XII and offering BJs
Sep 23, 2011 12:44am
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Sep 23, 2011 5:25 AM
bigkahuna;907539 wrote:I wonder what this means for aTm. They can't join the SEC as the 13th member and just have at it. That'd be a nightmare for scheduling. How long do they wait? OR, do they say screw it and come back?
No more of a nightmare than the Big 10 with 11 teams.

The Big 10 and SEC have the money, they don't need to expand unless it is a program they want. If Mizzou thinks this is the right move, good for them. I disagree, I think the Big 12 will eventually fold in the next few years and the Big 10 doesn't really want them, but that is just my opinion.
Sep 23, 2011 5:25am
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Sep 23, 2011 6:04 AM
cats gone wild;907534 wrote:A big gain for the SEC. They didnt need Missouri. They should want a better all around sports school.
Umm... conference expansion is not really about sports. Research dollars are the number 1 factor.
Sep 23, 2011 6:04am
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Sep 23, 2011 7:17 AM
The Big 12 remains a ticking time bomb. It may have survived this round, but soon enough somebody will get mad about the Longhorn and start looking for a new home. Once they leave, you'll see the dominoes in other conferences begin to fall all over again
Sep 23, 2011 7:17am
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Sep 23, 2011 7:17 AM
Zoltan;907633 wrote:Umm... conference expansion is not really about sports. Research dollars are the number 1 factor.

LOL. There is only one conference that even pretends like this is true (B1G), and it's even pretty low on their priority list.
Sep 23, 2011 7:17am
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Sep 23, 2011 7:30 AM
bigkahuna;907536 wrote:Texas did have a bigger piece of cake. Now, they have the same size piece of cake, but they have an apple pie that they left at home for themselves.
Because "Texas apparently agreed to a more equitable revenue sharing arrangement" means that all teams are now on the same revenue level as Texas. Based on the wording, they're getting a little bit more, but not equal.
Sep 23, 2011 7:30am
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Sep 23, 2011 8:23 AM
the_system;907665 wrote:Because "Texas apparently agreed to a more equitable revenue sharing arrangement" means that all teams are now on the same revenue level as Texas. Based on the wording, they're getting a little bit more, but not equal.
Yeah, I haven't found anything that says Texas is willing to split everything evenly.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7006610/big-12-presidents-agree-grant-television-rights-revenue-conference

Not sure what changed or whether the details in this article represent the previous or the current structure, but:
The Big 12 splits revenue from its Fox Sports contract evenly, but only half of the money from its top-tier deal with ABC/ESPN goes into equal shares. The rest is weighted toward the programs that play on the network more frequently.
Sep 23, 2011 8:23am
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Sep 23, 2011 8:29 AM
Okay, well, according to this, Texas hasn't agreed to anything yet. They're willing to consider equal revenue sharing from the TV contracts, excluding the Longhorn Network (doesn't sound like they want to share any of that).

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-big12-texas
Sep 23, 2011 8:29am
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Sep 23, 2011 10:56 AM
^^That's how I understood it, which is why I said they were sharing equally but keeping LHN all to themselves.

Honest questions: If Iowa State plays @ Texas in football (or any sport for that matter), and it's on LHN, how can Texas NOT give ISU a portion of revenue? If they choose not to share revenue of LHN, can the other schools refuse to appear on LHN?

I just have a feeling that LHN will eventually fold. Do ND opponents get a small share of revenue when they play @ ND?
Sep 23, 2011 10:56am
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Sep 23, 2011 11:07 AM
bigkahuna;907852 wrote:If they choose not to share revenue of LHN, can the other schools refuse to appear on LHN?
Interesting question. I wonder if the other Big XII schools had to originally agree to anything or if it might be covered in the Big XII's ESPN contract...like a clause or something that says ESPN can put your school on any of their networks.
Sep 23, 2011 11:07am
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Sep 23, 2011 5:33 PM
ts1227;907660 wrote:LOL. There is only one conference that even pretends like this is true (B1G), and it's even pretty low on their priority list.
It's about money, and research is more than sports
Sep 23, 2011 5:33pm
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Sep 24, 2011 3:15 PM
Zoltan;908258 wrote:It's about money, and research is more than sports
That money is grant money that can't be spent on anything but the research.
Sep 24, 2011 3:15pm