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Sep 24, 2011 1:12 PM
He just committed to giving OSU $100 million. He should have a say in whatever he wants.
Sep 24, 2011 1:12pm
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Sep 24, 2011 9:22 PM
Leslie H. Wexner, chair of the board, was appointed to the board of trustees in December 2005 and reappointed for a new term beginning May 14, 2011 - May 13, 2020. He previously served on the Board from 1988-1997 and was chairman of the board from 1996-97.
Sep 24, 2011 9:22pm
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Sep 24, 2011 9:27 PM
LOL @ hating on Les Wexner. The guy is a brilliant businessman, loves OSU, and donates big money to the University.
Sep 24, 2011 9:27pm
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Sep 25, 2011 10:22 AM
I don't hate the guy and I don't know what "hating on" means. I just think he has too much influence in the direction of the school. Just an opinion.
Sep 25, 2011 10:22am
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Sep 25, 2011 8:36 PM
So is it your opinion then, that no University should have a Chairman of the Board?
Sep 25, 2011 8:36pm
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Sep 25, 2011 8:46 PM
LJ;910769 wrote:So is it your opinion then, that no University should have a Chairman of the Board?
This is an example of you trying way too hard.
Sep 25, 2011 8:46pm
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Sep 25, 2011 8:56 PM
thedynasty1998;910796 wrote:This is an example of you trying way too hard.
What? Wexner has no more power than any other Chairman of the Board of any University. So if he thinks Wexner has too much power, my question was in no sense a stretch. If Wexner has too much power, wouldn't every Chairman?

Your post is an example of you trying too hard.
Sep 25, 2011 8:56pm
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Sep 25, 2011 9:06 PM
LJ;910816 wrote:What? Wexner has no more power than any other Chairman of the Board of any University. So if he thinks Wexner has too much power, my question was in no sense a stretch. If Wexner has too much power, wouldn't every Chairman?

Your post is an example of you trying too hard.
That's where you are wrong and fail to see his stance. Although Wexner is the chair, his power is exclusive of that. Don't try to say otherwise.
Sep 25, 2011 9:06pm
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Sep 25, 2011 9:10 PM
thedynasty1998;910844 wrote:That's where you are wrong and fail to see his stance. Although Wexner is the chair, his power is exclusive of that. Don't try to say otherwise.
:rolleyes:

I do say otherwise. He is elected to the Chair, not appointed. His power was given by his peers. What proof do you, or anyone else have, that his power goes beyond being the Chairman of the Board? The Tressel thing, where his change in stance changed the majority opinion on Tressel's job status? Oh he has things named after him, that must mean that he has power that goes beyond his position.

I'm sorry, but I just don't see it. Just because people don't like his stance on certain things, doesn't mean he has some power endowed to him due to donations.
Sep 25, 2011 9:10pm
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Sep 25, 2011 9:18 PM
LJ;910849 wrote::rolleyes:

I do say otherwise. He is elected to the Chair, not appointed. His power was given by his peers. What proof do you, or anyone else have, that his power goes beyond being the Chairman of the Board? The Tressel thing, where his change in stance changed the majority opinion on Tressel's job status? Oh he has things named after him, that must mean that he has power that goes beyond his position.

I'm sorry, but I just don't see it. Just because people don't like his stance on certain things, doesn't mean he has some power endowed to him due to donations.
I admire Wexner and have no issue with his power. However it is exclusive. T. Boone Pickins and Phil Knight are similar more public figures with similar power, yet are not Chairs.

Wexner controls all of Columbus. If he wants something done, it gets done. That's not a bad thing, but it is reality. He's the Chair because he wants to be. Regardless of his status on the Board he would have similar input and authority.
Sep 25, 2011 9:18pm
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Sep 26, 2011 7:10 AM
thedynasty1998;910861 wrote:I admire Wexner and have no issue with his power. However it is exclusive. T. Boone Pickins and Phil Knight are similar more public figures with similar power, yet are not Chairs.
The power is not similar at all. When is the last time that Wexner got a friend of his that had no college degree and no athletic experience hired as the school's AD?
Wexner controls all of Columbus. If he wants something done, it gets done. That's not a bad thing, but it is reality.
But it's not reality. The Schottenstein family and the Wolfe family have just as much and possibly even more influence due to history in Columbus. You've heard of the Jerome Schottenstein Center right?
He's the Chair because he wants to be. Regardless of his status on the Board he would have similar input and authority.
Once again, he doesn't have that much power. He is chair because Borror and Schottenstein wanted him to be.
Sep 26, 2011 7:10am
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Sep 26, 2011 8:06 AM
LJ;911510 wrote:The power is not similar at all. When is the last time that Wexner got a friend of his that had no college degree and no athletic experience hired as the school's AD?

But it's not reality. The Schottenstein family and the Wolfe family have just as much and possibly even more influence due to history in Columbus. You've heard of the Jerome Schottenstein Center right? Once again, he doesn't have that much power. He is chair because Borror and Schottenstein wanted him to be.
You are wrong. I don't know who in the he'll (this is your chance) he has helped to get hired. And whoever he did I would have no problem with. I may be wrong, but I think he is the person that brought Gee back.

The other families are powerful, but do not have the same power of Wexner at OSU. No one would say they did.

The fact that you think Borror hired him is a joke. Borror is a pawn of Wexners. He's Hardly the guy that is going to tell Wexner no.
Sep 26, 2011 8:06am
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Sep 26, 2011 8:23 AM
thedynasty1998;911542 wrote:You are wrong. I don't know who in the he'll (this is your chance) he has helped to get hired. And whoever he did I would have no problem with. I may be wrong, but I think he is the person that brought Gee back.
It was way more than just Wexner. Shumate had a HUGE role in getting Gee back. Gee was everyone's choice, Wexner just happened to be close friends with Gee.
The other families are powerful, but do not have the same power of Wexner at OSU. No one would say they did.
The funny thing is, they are all friends, the Wolfes, the Schottensteins and the Wexners, they are all very close friends, and basically agree on everything. It isn't just Wexner wanting something and getting it, it's all of them wanting something and getting it together. That is why Wexner does not just have some sort of massive endowed power. He is part of a much larger group that holds the power not just with OSU, but in Columbus overall.
The fact that you think Borror hired him is a joke. Borror is a pawn of Wexners. He's Hardly the guy that is going to tell Wexner no.
Huh? It was a move straight up by Bobby Schottenstein and Doug Borror to get their buddy the chair.

If anyone wants to complain about anyone that has influence over OSU that doesn't hold a trustee position, it would be John Wolfe.
Sep 26, 2011 8:23am
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Sep 26, 2011 2:03 PM
LJ;911554 wrote:It was way more than just Wexner. Shumate had a HUGE role in getting Gee back. Gee was everyone's choice, Wexner just happened to be close friends with Gee.

The funny thing is, they are all friends, the Wolfes, the Schottensteins and the Wexners, they are all very close friends, and basically agree on everything. It isn't just Wexner wanting something and getting it, it's all of them wanting something and getting it together. That is why Wexner does not just have some sort of massive endowed power. He is part of a much larger group that holds the power not just with OSU, but in Columbus overall.

Huh? It was a move straight up by Bobby Schottenstein and Doug Borror to get their buddy the chair.

If anyone wants to complain about anyone that has influence over OSU that doesn't hold a trustee position, it would be John Wolfe.
I don't even know what your point is at this point. No one is denying he has friends, and I don't know why it would be considered "funny"? His power is exclusive of his "title". It's not even up for debate.
Sep 26, 2011 2:03pm
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Sep 26, 2011 2:12 PM
thedynasty1998;911825 wrote:I don't even know what your point is at this point. No one is denying he has friends, and I don't know why it would be considered "funny"? His power is exclusive of his "title". It's not even up for debate.
Yet you have nothing to prove it. At least with Phil Knight there is proof with the hiring of KilKenny. The board had offered the job to Gee before Wexner even talked to him about it, because Gee was going to turn it down and Wexner is a close friend of his. What proof do you have that he has power beyond his title?
Sep 26, 2011 2:12pm
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Sep 26, 2011 3:07 PM
lol at people pretending to understand the inner workings of OSU. Who knows how much power Wexner really has? It wouldn't surprise me if there was some shady shit going on, simply because when really rich and powerful people get together behind closed doors, that generally happens. But maybe Wexner is a good guy who just loves the University.

Only for sure complaint is that it was a joke they let him dot the I. But that's not really his fault, if someone offered me the opportunity it's not like I'd turn it down.
Sep 26, 2011 3:07pm
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Sep 27, 2011 6:51 PM
Dr Winston O'Boogie;908014 wrote:And I personally don't believe Gordon Gee is good for the school.
Well that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but as an actual student at Ohio State I couldn't disagree more. I'm certain that most of my 60,000+ peers would agree with me.
Sep 27, 2011 6:51pm
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Sep 27, 2011 6:53 PM
2kool4skool;911875 wrote:Only for sure complaint is that it was a joke they let him dot the I. But that's not really his fault, if someone offered me the opportunity it's not like I'd turn it down.
Who are you to determine who's "worthy" enough to dot the I? I would argue that Les Wexner has been as beneficial to The Ohio State University as anyone in their history, and not just because he gave the single largest donation ever which is going to help give them a world class hospital and cancer research center.
Sep 27, 2011 6:53pm
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Sep 27, 2011 6:58 PM
As for Mike Leach at OSU, I like him as a football coach but you can't throw the ball that many times in Big 10 country during late October and November. The weather just doesn't allow for it. Not to mention you actually need to have a defense to win in the Big 10.
Sep 27, 2011 6:58pm
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Sep 28, 2011 8:58 AM
Y-Town Steelhound;913321 wrote:Well that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but as an actual student at Ohio State I couldn't disagree more. I'm certain that most of my 60,000+ peers would agree with me.
You're entitled to your opinion and as an OSU alum, I'll keep mine.

People on this thread are equating my dislike of Wexner's influence with not wanting a Chairman of the trustees. I am not saying anything of the sort. Most every school has a board chairman. Not many have one with the influence Wexner has. As a longtime former Columbus resident and OSU alum, I have seen him buy a tremendous amount of influence over the years. I'm not saying that he did anything immoral or illegal. I understand that this is how the world works. I just personally disagree witht he universtiy putting itself in the hands of one person's desires. His influence at OSU has nothing to do with his chairmanship anyway. He has called the shots there long before he became chairman. The ONLY reason Gee was rehired was because Wexner loves the guy.
Sep 28, 2011 8:58am