lhslep134;918915 wrote:I'm pretty sure the offensive line was atrocious today and that's why we couldn't move the ball. It's not like we were able to run, we couldn't get any push. MSU won the battle in the trenches and it was the reason we lost. Hard to fault Miller when he doesn't have time to even scan his WRs because he's more concerned about the 2 defenders in the backfield already.

lhslep134;918915 wrote:I'm pretty sure the offensive line was atrocious today and that's why we couldn't move the ball. It's not like we were able to run, we couldn't get any push. MSU won the battle in the trenches and it was the reason we lost. Hard to fault Miller when he doesn't have time to even scan his WRs because he's more concerned about the 2 defenders in the backfield already.

thedynasty1998;918924 wrote:Very true. I noticed that the snap count was very predictable as well. Michigan States front was getting a better jump off the ball than the offensive line.

Writerbuckeye;918938 wrote:SMH

Do either of you realize that this coaching staff simply didn't adjust for (1) MSU stacking the line and (2) running run blitzes on first down and (3) other blitzes after OSU was in 2nd and 3rd and long?

Everyone in America knew MSU was going to do these things, but OSU simply ignored it and continued to run predictable plays with predictable snap counts, allowing the defense to simply jam the running lanes and jump the counts.

And then they made no adjustments when it continued.

This was all about lack of coaching and preparation. Throw in an inexperienced QB who was left there to be a sitting duck, and you have the OSU offense today.

Gene Smith should have fired the lot of them at halftime, it was such a bad job of game preparation.

No OL in the world can be success against what MSU did today without some help from coaches by calling plays that force them to take off the pressure. That never happened.

I will be applauding when Fickell and the rest of this coaching staff is summarily fired -- and if there are too many more games like this one, it will probably happen before the end of the season.

thedynasty1998;918959 wrote:Why are you SYH? Yes I understand that. Are you pointing out the obvious or what?

Writerbuckeye;918971 wrote:Because you agreed this was basically a problem with the OL instead of the scheme. OSU's OL didn't particularly play well, but most of that was because the play calling put them in a horrid position.

I pointed out the obvious because you two were blaming the OL and not the ridiculously bad coaching that helped make the OL look so bad.

thedynasty1998;919000 wrote:I never imagined an OSU team being coached so poorly. I was never a huge fan of Tressel, but he's now showing how great of a coach he truly was. He covered up so many deficiencies on his own staff.

Writerbuckeye;919048 wrote:Tressel was a control freak who had to have his "yes" men around him. We all knew that and accepted it because of the results. Of course, that meant when he was gone, we were left with a staff of folks who (aside from Heacock) mostly couldn't find their butts with both hands.

That showed today.

Bollman is arguably the worst play caller in college football. We apparently don't have a QB coach, but a film coordinator masquerading as one.

I can say that in more than 40 years of watching OSU football, I've never seen an offense as pathetic and ill-prepared as that one was today. Everyone in America knew what MSU would do coming into this game -- everyone, apparently, except Fickell and Bollman (this assumes Fickell even talks to Bollman about the offense).

OSU ran into that stacked front play after play, didn't change the snap count so MSU could time and jump the count easily, and never ran plays to take the pressure off. Instead, they ran slow developing pass plays on downs when the D knew it was a pass. The result was 9 sacks and a ton more pressures.

It really was, as the announcers said, "totally pathetic" of an offense. It was embarrassing.

I haven't watched it yet (I just can't bring myself to do so) but I guess the press conference after the game is just one more chapter in this horror story. Fickell does not distinguish himself at all, and players openly questioned why the staff wasn't making adjustments to force MSU out of its stunts and blitzing.

thedynasty1998;919081 wrote:Siciliano should be fired tonight. Why waste state tax payer money writing him another check?

LJ;919132 wrote:take a Coord?

Paul Chryst

jordo212000;919137 wrote:Give me Meyer or Jon Gruden. If you don't get them, go get Dantonio

thedynasty1998;919143 wrote:Dantonio after today? No way. His play calling was equally as bad.

jordo212000;919137 wrote:Give me Meyer or Jon Gruden. If you don't get them, go get Dantonio

Mulva;919148 wrote:Mike Gundy. We need a man running this team.

jordo212000;919146 wrote:You don't need to imaginative to win titles. See 2002.

He has won some games at Mich. St. which is never easy. Dude is a pretty good recruiter too

LJ;919151 wrote:Well he does also have one of the best offenses in the country right now too

LJ;919150 wrote:Sure, no, LOL no

thedynasty1998;919081 wrote:Siciliano should be fired tonight. Why waste state tax payer money writing him another check?

jordo212000;919165 wrote:Heavens no. We wouldnt to bring back the guy who developed our defense into one of the school's best ever defenses and was very instrumental in our national championship victory. We don't want that

BigAppleBuckeye;919179 wrote:Why does't Ohio State EVER run a slant? It's always a 5-step drop with either a grandpa QB or a QB with happy feet, waiting for sub-par receivers to make their breaks. Just run a slant once in a while, it f-cking works! I would discuss the next step -- the mystical, magical screen pass -- but let's start here. Our coaching is putrid, we have won in the past despite our offensive gameplanning, and that BS just won't fly anymore.