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Sep 18, 2011 2:31 AM
SportsAndLady;901229 wrote:Lets ****in hope so
Rutgers' commitment to non-revenue sports and academics might save its bacon. From a culture perspective Rutgers makes a lot more sense in the ACC than WVU, and perhaps even UConn (although UConn's basketball programs would be a nice get).
Sep 18, 2011 2:31am
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Sep 18, 2011 2:57 AM
Greeeeeeeat...


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Just filed to the NYT a story about Congress taking interest in realignment. Congressman told me involvement "may be unavoidable."
Sep 18, 2011 2:57am
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Sep 18, 2011 3:14 AM
Yeah, like they don't have any more important things to worry about, let's mess with college football.
Sep 18, 2011 3:14am
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Sep 18, 2011 4:58 AM
If Congress got some measure through that you could only have 12 or 14 schools in a conference, I'd shit a brick.
Sep 18, 2011 4:58am
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Sep 18, 2011 7:46 AM
Manhattan Buckeye;901258 wrote:Maybe, maybe not. Notre Dame no longer has reason to stay, and look for Cincy/L'ville and maybe WVU to try to hook up with the Big 12 leftovers to stay BCS eligible. All that is left are the Catholic schools that don't have football programs.
Why would Notre Dame no longer have a reason to stay? They aren't in the conference for football anyway. Even if all of the football schools leave that still leaves like 12 schools in the conference for basketball and other sports. The conference just won't have football anymore, but it will still exist as a conference.

I do think that if all of the football schools left, that it would hurt basketball and reduce the money the conference receives and therefore the payout Notre Dame receives from them, which might make a Notre Dame to the B1G move more likely, which I'm ok with.
Sep 18, 2011 7:46am
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Sep 18, 2011 7:52 AM
Losing 3 of the top basketball programs in their conference will likely affect their decision, plus the Big East would need to pick up 3 more schools to maintain BCS eligibility. So lose Pitt/Cuse/UConn, pick up TCU (I'm sure ND is thrilled with that) and 3 schools to be named later - that is a precarious position for the conference even in basketball.
Sep 18, 2011 7:52am
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Sep 18, 2011 8:10 AM
Not sure if you guys saw it reported but the founder of the Big East, Dave Gavitt, died yesterday. Kind of ironic.....
Sep 18, 2011 8:10am
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Sep 18, 2011 8:28 AM
Manhattan Buckeye;901292 wrote:Losing 3 of the top basketball programs in their conference will likely affect their decision, plus the Big East would need to pick up 3 more schools to maintain BCS eligibility. So lose Pitt/Cuse/UConn, pick up TCU (I'm sure ND is thrilled with that) and 3 schools to be named later - that is a precarious position for the conference even in basketball.
Right, they will probably fold as a football conference, but this has nothing to do with the basketball side of things. The schools that are in the Big East for basketball only don't get any of the revenue generated on the football side. That TV and bowl money is only divided among the football schools in the conference. Now, losing several of their top basketball schools might mean that future contracts to televise Big East basketball aren't as lucrative as they have been in the past, but that doesn't mean they still won't be a viable conference. The amount of money Notre Dame gets from the Big East won't change if the Big East is no longer a football conference.
Sep 18, 2011 8:28am
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Sep 18, 2011 8:31 AM
SportsAndLady;901266 wrote:Greeeeeeeat...


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Just filed to the NYT a story about Congress taking interest in realignment. Congressman told me involvement "may be unavoidable."



Our govt is such a joke
Sep 18, 2011 8:31am
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Sep 18, 2011 8:45 AM
krambman;901300 wrote:Right, they will probably fold as a football conference, but this has nothing to do with the basketball side of things. The schools that are in the Big East for basketball only don't get any of the revenue generated on the football side. That TV and bowl money is only divided among the football schools in the conference. Now, losing several of their top basketball schools might mean that future contracts to televise Big East basketball aren't as lucrative as they have been in the past, but that doesn't mean they still won't be a viable conference. The amount of money Notre Dame gets from the Big East won't change if the Big East is no longer a football conference.
If the BE is no longer a football conference, WVU, South Fla, Cincy and L'ville aren't sticking around, they are going to look at other superconference rejects to form a new conference to maintain their football cred. That would leave ND and the midwest/east coast Catholic schools - DePaul, Marquette, SH, SJU, Nova, Providence and G'town. If ND wants that, fine but I'm not sure that it will - and I'm also not sure of your math but that is an 8 team conference, not a 12 team conference.
Sep 18, 2011 8:45am
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Sep 18, 2011 9:56 AM
done deal:

http://www.theacc.com/genrel/091811aaa.html
Sep 18, 2011 9:56am
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Sep 18, 2011 6:35 PM
The ACC is considering three options as it awaits decisions from Texas and Notre Dame, according to an official. The first one is the league's home run swing at luring both Texas and Notre Dame. Plan B is to invite Texas and Texas Tech. Rutgers and Connecticut are Plan C.
Looks like Rutgers and Uconn to the ACC then, because I don't see why Tejas would go to the ACC..no way a conference will allow Texas to join with that LHN, and after what they have done to the Big 12.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2011/09/rutgers_remains_in_contact_wit.html
Sep 18, 2011 6:35pm
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Sep 18, 2011 6:40 PM
I just received an ESPN text saying something about Oklahoma, Okie State, Texas, Texas Tech to the Pac-12.
Sep 18, 2011 6:40pm
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Sep 18, 2011 6:43 PM
killer_ewok;902301 wrote:I just received an ESPN text saying something about Oklahoma, Okie State, Texas, Texas Tech to the Pac-12.




I haven't seen anything about that; but it definitely wouldn't surprise me as that's what I think will happen in the end.

Any idea where the source was from?
Sep 18, 2011 6:43pm
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Sep 18, 2011 6:46 PM
West Virginia to the SEC?
Sep 18, 2011 6:46pm
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Sep 18, 2011 6:47 PM
So Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Texas Tech to Pac16
Rutgers and UCONN to ACC
WVU to the SEC

Jesus lol
Sep 18, 2011 6:47pm
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Sep 18, 2011 7:48 PM
B1G better get a move on
Sep 18, 2011 7:48pm
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Sep 18, 2011 7:50 PM
gorocks99;902373 wrote:B1G better get a move on
Mizzou and ND :thumbdown:
Sep 18, 2011 7:50pm
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Sep 18, 2011 7:53 PM
LJ;902374 wrote:Mizzou and ND :thumbdown:

It almost has to be. Kansas won't move w/o K State, so there aren't many other options.
Sep 18, 2011 7:53pm
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Sep 18, 2011 7:57 PM
gorocks99;902375 wrote:Kansas won't move w/o K State
You gotta think if given the opportunity to move to the B1G, there's no way they'll say no because of K-State.
Sep 18, 2011 7:57pm
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Sep 18, 2011 7:59 PM
SportsAndLady;902377 wrote:You gotta think if given the opportunity to move to the B1G, there's no way they'll say no because of K-State.

I just don't think the B1G wants anything to do with KSU.
Sep 18, 2011 7:59pm
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Sep 18, 2011 8:00 PM
Apparently the Big 12 was considering Pitt at some level, so this Pitt to the ACC thing has all of the Big 12 schools worried, hence everyone looking to bail.
The source said Pittsburgh was one of the Big 12's top options as a replacement for Texas A&M, and that when Pitt announced it was going to the ACC, it "clobbered everything" regarding the Big 12's future.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/6989288/pac-12-working-deal-texas-oklahoma-oklahoma-state-texas-tech-according-source
Sep 18, 2011 8:00pm
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Sep 18, 2011 8:24 PM
At least the ACC is being proactive. A lot were figuring the SEC and Big East would consume what good schools they could from the Big XII and ACC. Now, it looks like the Big East is going to turn into a good basketball school with MWC-quality football.

Imagine:

WVU to SEC
UConn and Rutgers to the ACC
Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech to the PAC-16.
Missouri and Notre Dame to the B1G.

The remaining Big XII schools will snag South Florida, Cincinnati and Louisville (who won't want to be relegated to C-USA) to bring their total to seven. They'd throw in a few C-USA/MWC schools to bring it up to 10 or 12. The likes of Colorado State, Houston, Rice, SMU, UAB (UAB!?), Tulsa (need the OK market for midwest recruiting losing the two big boys there), Boise State, BYU (if they know what's good for them). Let's say CSU, Houston, SMU, Boise State, BYU for now. Gives them media in Dallas, Houston, the northwest (gets the media darling Broncos), BYU (brings the mormons, SLC), Denver area (and a northwest pod for BSU, BYU, and CSU).

They'd keep BCS status for a while, have BCS-buster Boise State in the fold. Would be a half-step between MWC and BCS. Like BCS Lite.

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Sep 18, 2011 8:24pm
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Sep 18, 2011 8:52 PM
If several ACC Football schools would get out of their 10-15 year funks, the conference will be extremely well balanced in both sports. A strong FSU, Miami, VT, Clemson, GT, Pitt, and Syracuse get it going, it is definitely decent. Will usually be the 4th best super conference I would think (in football), but could have standout years now and then. In almost every other sport, it is an absolute powerhouse now. Basketball, Baseball, Lacrosse, Soccer, etc. are all great.
Sep 18, 2011 8:52pm
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Sep 18, 2011 9:01 PM
Would TCU trying to get into the Big XII save it at all?

You've gotta think that they are/will try to get out of their new contract if it's going to fold. Adding them and possibly Boise could save the Big XII, if they really wanted to save it.
Sep 18, 2011 9:01pm