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Sep 5, 2011 7:40 AM
vball10set;883634 wrote:who is this Dr Winston O'Boogie, and who was he in a previous OC life? gotta' be a troll reincarnate :thumbdown:
This is my one and only life on Ohio Chatter. I was aka wattersoneagle on jj where I'd been since 2001.

Dr. Winston O' Boogie was a nickname John Lennon had.
Sep 5, 2011 7:40am
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Sep 5, 2011 7:46 AM
I'll modify my stance in light of some of the points raised here. I still think Gee has embarrassed Ohio State over the years, this past off season is only the latest example. I guess I am somewhat disgusted at the current state of college football. It has caused me to move from an OSU/college fan to an NFL fan. I'm jaded and I apologize to the OSU fans that are offended by my rantings. I used to be a big fan and got pretty upset when people said anything negative about thhe place.
Sep 5, 2011 7:46am
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Sep 5, 2011 8:36 AM
Dr Winston O'Boogie;883636 wrote:This is my one and only life on Ohio Chatter. I was aka wattersoneagle on jj where I'd been since 2001.

Dr. Winston O' Boogie was a nickname John Lennon had.
Then welcome to OC, and even though I disagree with your OP, it's good to have another puddle transfer....GO BUCKS!!!
Sep 5, 2011 8:36am
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Sep 5, 2011 10:06 AM
Dr Winston O'Boogie;883257 wrote:So Gordon Gee calls Boise State out last year for playing "Little Sisters of the Poor". Never mind that he doesn't know jack about football and probably hasn't done an athletic thing in his life. Yesterday, THE Ohio State played what was probably one of the worst division I schools in the country while Boise State puts a beating oGeorgia - a SEC big school. Nice call Gee. Better hope Boise doesn't get ahold of your team.

He also refers to Lex Wexner as the 6th "civilian" to ever dot the i. So I guess as Americans (in Gee's book at least), we shoul be grateful to the Army,Nave, Air Force, Marines, and the tuba section.
Last year, Georgia was 6-7. They have no business being referred to as an elite Div1 school right now. They had no business being ranked this year other than to make Boise's first game look legit. They lost to UCF in their bowl game. Boise beating them isn't a shocker, in fact, they were favored by 3.5 on the road. Should have been closer to 10. Georgia blows goats right now. Boise playing Georgia is akin to Ohio State's game with Colorado in a few weeks. A team that beat Georgia last year.

Ohio State played a team that sucked last year. We all know that and they beat them like the red headed step child they are, holding them to under 100 yards of total offense. They did not play a FCS school like Oregon State (who LOST to Sacramento State) or the dozens of other Div1A schools that played FCS teams. Ohio State did as they always do, keeping the money in state which has been their policy for many years.

Next week Ohio State plays Toledo. The next week, guess who plays Toledo? BOISE STATE. One game a year against a BCS school does not a schedule make.
Sep 5, 2011 10:06am
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Sep 5, 2011 10:18 AM
Dr Winston O'Boogie;883309 wrote:Okay, if Gee said it about TCU, I was technically wrong. However his point was intended towards the legitimate "BCS busters" which included Boise State. I am an OSU alum and I've always loved my school. I guess I'm just a little cynical about the football program in lit of Gee's leadership thisyear. And I don't forget about it just because they brought out the sacraficial lamb yesterday and had money bags dot the I. It just made me think about $75 per ticket to watch garbage.
You're usually "technically wrong" about the threads you start on here.
Sep 5, 2011 10:18am
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Sep 5, 2011 7:06 PM
GoPens;883717 wrote:You're usually "technically wrong" about the threads you start on here.
The only oher threads I've ever started include a question about people's opinion about the the Catholic Church's opposition to IVF, a question on baseball lineup orders and Muslims terrorists being responsible for the Norway attack. So as I see it, I'm 2 for 4 in the accuraccy department. If I were a MLB hitter, I'd be seeing a $20 million contract.
Sep 5, 2011 7:06pm
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Sep 5, 2011 8:58 PM
If you're ok with being right 50% of the time....whatever makes you happy man.
Sep 5, 2011 8:58pm
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Sep 5, 2011 11:56 PM
Dr Winston O'Boogie;884272 wrote:The only oher threads I've ever started include a question about people's opinion about the the Catholic Church's opposition to IVF, a question on baseball lineup orders and Muslims terrorists being responsible for the Norway attack. So as I see it, I'm 2 for 4 in the accuraccy department. If I were a MLB hitter, I'd be seeing a $20 million contract.
2 for 4 wouldn't get you any contract. 50% is failing
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Sep 6, 2011 12:30 AM
robj55;883550 wrote:If you think OSU fears Boise you are nuts, we would beat them this year just like any other year, tough sledding against that 6-7 Georgia team from a year ago and that is there toughest game of the year lol.
Boise State would be favored over Ohio State...even if they played in Columbus. As for Boise not playing a man's schedule, a good part of that is that no powerhouse wants to play them....for obvious reasons.
Sep 6, 2011 12:30am
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Sep 6, 2011 12:37 AM
Footwedge;884638 wrote:Boise State would be favored over Ohio State...even if they played in Columbus. As for Boise not playing a man's schedule, a good part of that is that no powerhouse wants to play them....for obvious reasons.
Highly doubt they'd be favored in Columbus.
Sep 6, 2011 12:37am
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Sep 6, 2011 12:40 AM
Scooter1369;883708 wrote:Last year, Georgia was 6-7. They have no business being referred to as an elite Div1 school right now. They had no business being ranked this year other than to make Boise's first game look legit. They lost to UCF in their bowl game. Boise beating them isn't a shocker, in fact, they were favored by 3.5 on the road. Should have been closer to 10. Georgia blows goats right now. Boise playing Georgia is akin to Ohio State's game with Colorado in a few weeks. A team that beat Georgia last year.

Ohio State played a team that sucked last year. We all know that and they beat them like the red headed step child they are, holding them to under 100 yards of total offense. They did not play a FCS school like Oregon State (who LOST to Sacramento State) or the dozens of other Div1A schools that played FCS teams. Ohio State did as they always do, keeping the money in state which has been their policy for many years.

Next week Ohio State plays Toledo. The next week, guess who plays Toledo? BOISE STATE. One game a year against a BCS school does not a schedule make.
Just a few comments. I agree that Georgia is no great shakes...but they were ranked 19th going into Saturday. So comparing them to Colorado is a FAIL. Last year, Boise won in Blacksburg and I think VT ended the year in the top 10. Boise can't really schedule in-state opponents...there arent any schools there...except Idaho.

Boise State....for years...has begged to play teams like Michigan, Notre Dame, Michihan State. Nobody wants any part of that.
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Sep 6, 2011 12:43 AM
dwccrew;884641 wrote:Highly doubt they'd be favored in Columbus.
Sure they would. Let's not get carried away with the Buckeyes manhandling one of the worst teams in 1A football. Akron won one game last year.
Sep 6, 2011 12:43am
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Sep 6, 2011 12:51 AM
Right now, W a heisman candidate QB, ranked top 10 in the nation, and OSU with Joe Bauserman or a true freshman taking snaps and their leading Wr and Rusher benched...they very well might be favored in Columbus
Sep 6, 2011 12:51am
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Sep 6, 2011 1:02 AM
Footwedge;884642 wrote:Just a few comments. I agree that Georgia is no great shakes...but they were ranked 19th going into Saturday. So comparing them to Colorado is a FAIL. Last year, Boise won in Blacksburg and I think VT ended the year in the top 10. Boise can't really schedule in-state opponents...there arent any schools there...except Idaho.

Boise State....for years...has begged to play teams like Michigan, Notre Dame, Michihan State. Nobody wants any part of that.
First, comparing them to Colorado is a fail when Colorado beat them last year?

Second, Georgia was ranked #19 preseason, they could have a losing record at year end for all we know. I think they're decent, but we have no idea right now.

Third, Boise won at a neutral site last year. Yes it was essentially a home game for Va Tech at FedEx Field, but still, it makes a difference. And that was the same Va Tech that lost to James Madison the week after and got drubbed by Stanford.

Fourth, LOL at Boise begging to play teams like Michigan, Notre Dame, and Michigan State. They play Michigan State in 2012, 2022, and 2023, and they could have played Nebraska for a 3 game set(2 at Nebraska, 1 at Boise) but they demanded too much money. It's easy for them to say they'll play anyone anywhere, only to add "for X amount of dollars" when someone comes calling.
Sep 6, 2011 1:02am
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Sep 6, 2011 3:26 AM
Footwedge;884642 wrote:Just a few comments. I agree that Georgia is no great shakes...but they were ranked 19th going into Saturday. So comparing them to Colorado is a FAIL. Last year, Boise won in Blacksburg and I think VT ended the year in the top 10. Boise can't really schedule in-state opponents...there arent any schools there...except Idaho.

Boise State....for years...has begged to play teams like Michigan, Notre Dame, Michihan State. Nobody wants any part of that.
We've seen this before, teams being ranked way higher than they should be for the purpose of ratings. Georgia's ranking going into Saturday was just that, inflated for ratings. There is no other reason to rank a team with a losing record and just lost its best player to the NFL in the top 20. Georgia will be lucky to win 5 games this year. South Carolina is rip them a new anus this week.

Colorado beat Georgia last year. I'd have to say comparing Georgia and Colorado is a slight to Colorado.

As Tate said, Boise talks a good game, but when teams negotiate with them, they want more money than they're worth. Schools like Michigan, Notre Dame and MSU have no financial incentive to play games in that piss poor stadium in Idaho. They seat only 35,000 and play on that god awful smurf turf. If Boise wants to be considered a top tier program, join the PAC-12 or BigXII. Build a real stadium with normal turf. Play more than one AQ school a year.

Lets also remember that Boise is facing a LOIC charge from the NCAA right now after they have been found to have committed 22 violations in multiple sports, including football. Almost all of it related to recruiting. How good would they be if they hadn't used impermissable benefits to lure recruits?
Sep 6, 2011 3:26am
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Sep 6, 2011 3:40 AM
Begging to play top teams may be a bit of a stretch I agree. But you would all be lying to yourselves if you think teams turn down Boise because they want out of conference cupcakes and not someone who will give them a run for their money. Also many of these teams probably would only play Boise at home and would refuse to do a home and home because they dont wanna travel to Boise where Boise St is pretty much untouchable.
Sep 6, 2011 3:40am
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Sep 6, 2011 5:13 AM
Hb31187;884670 wrote:Begging to play top teams may be a bit of a stretch I agree. But you would all be lying to yourselves if you think teams turn down Boise because they want out of conference cupcakes and not someone who will give them a run for their money. Also many of these teams probably would only play Boise at home and would refuse to do a home and home because they dont wanna travel to Boise where Boise St is pretty much untouchable.
You mean where the ticket sales are equal to a Texas High School game? or where the field itself gives the home team a distinct camoflage advantage? Why would any team be willing to play in Boise? They'd lose money on the trip.

Since 1999, BSU is 77-2 at home, including bowl games played on their own field. 7 of those games were against AQ schools (Oregon State 3, Wazzou, ISU, BC, Oregon) their two losses were to BC and Washington State.

Their wins were against 7-7 Iowa State, a 7-5 Oregon State a 10-4 Oregon State, a 10-3 Oregon and a 5-7 Oregon State.

77 wins, 72 of them against "sisters of the poor" three against bad AQ teams and two quality wins.

CELEBRATE BOISE!!! You are untouchable at home. :rolleyes:
Sep 6, 2011 5:13am
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Sep 6, 2011 7:00 AM
dwccrew;884613 wrote:2 for 4 wouldn't get you any contract. 50% is failing
If I were a major league hitter, I would be succeeding.
Sep 6, 2011 7:00am
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Sep 6, 2011 8:25 AM
Dr Winston O'Boogie;884686 wrote:If I were a major league hitter, I would be succeeding.
If you were a Major league hitter, you'd either have a larger sample size or a ridiculously short career.
Sep 6, 2011 8:25am
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Sep 6, 2011 9:20 AM
Scooter1369;884711 wrote:If you were a Major league hitter, you'd either have a larger sample size or a ridiculously short career.
I was trying to be humorous. I am aware that MLB players generally need more than four at bats prior to being evaluated.

Anyway, I still stand by my original contention that Gordon Gee is an ignoramous who made a fool out of himself this offseason. I may have given him a pass if this were the first time. However, my memories with him go back to his first tenure at Ohio State and his numerous missteps back then. Of course Les Wexner had already purchased the university then and he liked Gee. So that made any debate on the issue a mute point.

I also think college football is less of a game because of the way the scheduling has played out. On an individual school level, I understand why the Ohio States of the world schedule weaklings when then can. Collectively it takes a lot out of the sport however. But seeing the stadiums full of people who are willing to shell out $70 for a bench seat to watch their team shallack some pansy only confirms the decisions these big schools make. That's my two cents.
Sep 6, 2011 9:20am
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Sep 6, 2011 9:23 AM
Dr Winston O'Boogie;884272 wrote:and Muslims terrorists being responsible for the Norway attack.
That was one of my favorites. Lol
Sep 6, 2011 9:23am
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Sep 6, 2011 9:24 AM
Footwedge;884642 wrote:Just a few comments. I agree that Georgia is no great shakes...but they were ranked 19th going into Saturday. So comparing them to Colorado is a FAIL. Last year, Boise won in Blacksburg and I think VT ended the year in the top 10. Boise can't really schedule in-state opponents...there arent any schools there...except Idaho.

Boise State....for years...has begged to play teams like Michigan, Notre Dame, Michihan State. Nobody wants any part of that.
Colorado beat Georgia last season, so how is it a fail to compare them to Georgia? Also, you are using the VT win for Boise's benefit because of VT's final season ranking, let's see where Georgia finishes at the end of the year. My guess is at least 5 losses.
Footwedge;884647 wrote:Sure they would. Let's not get carried away with the Buckeyes manhandling one of the worst teams in 1A football. Akron won one game last year.
LOL, I'm not even considering the win against Akron when talking about whether or not the Buckeyes would be favored at home against Boise St. This is still Ohio State we are talking about. People act as if they lost every starter off last year's team. They are a top ranked team still and predicted to finish second in their division in the Big 10. They very well could still win the Big 10. they still have one of the best defenses in the country.

When speaking of consistency in the college football world, Ohio State must be considered. I'm not saying they would win against Boise St. at home (although I would bet on them), but to say Ohio State wouldn't be favored at home against Boise St. definitely proves to me that someone doesn't understand the world of odds making. BSU was a 3.5 point favorite against shitty old Georgia! BSU would go into Columbus, the reigning 6 time Big Ten champs and a team that won 2 consecutive BCS bowls and still have one of the best defenses and be favored? OK. Easy for you to say when the game isn't happening.
Hb31187;884648 wrote:Right now, W a heisman candidate QB, ranked top 10 in the nation, and OSU with Joe Bauserman or a true freshman taking snaps and their leading Wr and Rusher benched...they very well might be favored in Columbus
See above. We're talking Ohio State here. Wisconsin, Nebraska and Ohio State are 3 teams in the Big Ten that I'd bet almost anything on being FAVORED at home against BSU.
Scooter1369;884711 wrote:If you were a Major league hitter, you'd either have a larger sample size or a ridiculously short career.
This is exactly what I was trying to say to the good doctor, however, he didn't pick up on it. 2 for 4 would get him a million dollar contract? LOL
Sep 6, 2011 9:24am
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Sep 6, 2011 9:25 AM
Dr Winston O'Boogie;884731 wrote:On an individual school level, I understand why the Ohio States of the world schedule weaklings when then can. Collectively it takes a lot out of the sport however. But seeing the stadiums full of people who are willing to shell out $70 for a bench seat to watch their team shallack some pansy only confirms the decisions these big schools make. That's my two cents.
I do agree with that. I was willing to take shitty seats when buying them every year gave me a better shot at better tickets the next year, but now that they give everyone an equal shot I probably won't be buying my alumni tickets next year. I've gotten shitty tickets the last several years and I can scalp them for a hell of a lot cheaper than $75.
Sep 6, 2011 9:25am
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Sep 6, 2011 9:44 AM
FatHobbit;884737 wrote:I do agree with that. I was willing to take ****ty seats when buying them every year gave me a better shot at better tickets the next year, but now that they give everyone an equal shot I probably won't be buying my alumni tickets next year. I've gotten ****ty tickets the last several years and I can scalp them for a hell of a lot cheaper than $75.
My alumni tickets were always getting me nose bleeds for Little Sisters of the Poor (haha) and so I quit buying them. I was much more comfortable in the air conditioning Saturday. Plus when the game was over (sometime after OSU's first score), I could go find somethign else to do.
Sep 6, 2011 9:44am
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FatHobbit;884734 wrote:That was one of my favorites. Lol
Blaming Muslim terrorists for that was terrible and I regret that. Quick to judge. I don't like it when other people act that way, so I was pretty embarrassed when I became a hypocrite.
Sep 6, 2011 9:45am