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THE4RINGZ

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Aug 16, 2011 8:35 AM
I heard about this on the radio. I guess the dad taught the kids a moral lesson, an expensive lesson.
Aug 16, 2011 8:35am
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Fab1b

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Aug 16, 2011 2:14 PM
I hope they give them something at least but I applaud his honesty
Aug 16, 2011 2:14pm
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sonofsam

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Aug 16, 2011 10:29 PM
Those two kids are going to cut dad's nuts off in his sleep...
Aug 16, 2011 10:29pm
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Rotinaj

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Sep 1, 2011 8:24 AM
lol the exact reasoning wasnt given huh? I bet its because they didnt expect anyone to make the shot and didnt want to give away 50k.
Sep 1, 2011 8:24am
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Sep 1, 2011 8:30 AM
Rotinaj;879058 wrote:lol the exact reasoning wasnt given huh? I bet its because they didnt expect anyone to make the shot and didnt want to give away 50k.
+1
Sep 1, 2011 8:30am
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Sep 1, 2011 8:32 AM
I was reading in another article how the company was saying that since the other party breached the contract that they "can't" give away the money to them.

No, there is nothing preventing them from giving the money to them anyways. It's pathetic that they assert that they "can't" give the money... they don't WANT to give the money.
Sep 1, 2011 8:32am
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Sep 1, 2011 8:35 AM
...I'd give the kids the money or at least 1/2 for being honest enough to admit to the swap!
Sep 1, 2011 8:35am
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Sep 1, 2011 8:45 AM
It's an insurance company. They're lucky to be getting the $20k donation.
Sep 1, 2011 8:45am
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Tiernan

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Sep 1, 2011 9:36 AM
Dad knew exactly what he was doing...until he knew it would come to light and then all of a sudden he's got all this integrity...no way should these kids get a damn dime.
Sep 1, 2011 9:36am
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Sep 1, 2011 10:06 AM
Fly4Fun;879068 wrote:breached the contract
Sounds pretty clear to me.
Sep 1, 2011 10:06am
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Sep 1, 2011 10:30 AM
Tiernan;879108 wrote:Dad knew exactly what he was doing...until he knew it would come to light and then all of a sudden he's got all this integrity...no way should these kids get a damn dime.
How was it going to come to light?

I agree with what he was doing there. I wouldn't want to teach my kids to be dishonest either. But I'm not sure I would turn down $50k. (or turn them in for accepting it.)
Sep 1, 2011 10:30am
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Tiernan

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Sep 1, 2011 1:48 PM
How was it going to come to light? Are you serious??? Its kids your dealing with here, within hours after receiving the check everyone in town would have known it was the other kid that actually shot the puck.
Sep 1, 2011 1:48pm
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Sonofanump

Sep 1, 2011 1:55 PM
"Any person who knowingly and with intent to injure, defraud or deceive any insurance company, files a statement of claim containing any false, incomplete or misleading information is guilty of a felony of the Third Degree."</SPAN></SPAN>
Sep 1, 2011 1:55pm
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Sep 1, 2011 2:01 PM
Sonofanump;879426 wrote:"Any person who knowingly and with intent to injure, defraud or deceive any insurance company, files a statement of claim containing any false, incomplete or misleading information is guilty of a felony of the Third Degree."
Did the parent/kids file a claim? They entered a contest at a charity event. The people responsible for the event filed the claim.
Sep 1, 2011 2:01pm
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Sonofanump

Sep 1, 2011 2:08 PM
FatHobbit;879436 wrote:Did the parent/kids file a claim? They entered a contest at a charity event. The people responsible for the event filed the claim.
There is an "or" in that legal language. It could state: Any person who knowingly and with intent to defraud or deceive any insurance company is guilty of a felony of the Third Degree."
Sep 1, 2011 2:08pm
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Sep 1, 2011 2:20 PM
I would have given the kids the money. I blame the father for saying anything. I'm just thankful the kids aren't African American because that is THE most entitled race in world history and this instantly would be made an issue of race.
Sep 1, 2011 2:20pm
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Sep 1, 2011 2:21 PM
sleeper;879469 wrote:I would have given the kids the money. I blame the father for saying anything. I'm just thankful the kids aren't African American because that is THE most entitled race in world history and this instantly would be made an issue of race.
It's hockey, there was no danger of that happening
Sep 1, 2011 2:21pm
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Sep 1, 2011 2:26 PM
sleeper;879469 wrote:I would have given the kids the money. I blame the father for saying anything. I'm just thankful the kids aren't African American because that is THE most entitled race in world history and this instantly would be made an issue of race.
This trolling more than usual for you.
Sep 1, 2011 2:26pm
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Tiernan

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Sep 1, 2011 3:21 PM
gorocks99;879470 wrote:It's hockey, there was no danger of that happening
There should be an award for "Funniest Post of the Day"...this would be in contention. Good one.
Sep 1, 2011 3:21pm
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Sep 1, 2011 3:32 PM
Tiernan;879108 wrote:Dad knew exactly what he was doing...until he knew it would come to light and then all of a sudden he's got all this integrity...no way should these kids get a damn dime.
The dad "knew" what he was doing when the twin took the shot. The dad "knew" what he was doing when he came forth about the wrong twin being the actual winner.

The dad didn't "know" anything about someone actually making the shot. Good for him in saying something. If he didn't say anything, then NO ONE would've known a thing. They could've kept it their own little secret.

Boy...it would be tough to turn that money in though...
Sep 1, 2011 3:32pm
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gut

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Sep 2, 2011 2:23 AM
In their defense, part of the computation for insuring the liability is that 9 out of 10 potential winners don't have a chance in hell of even reaching the net. Odds change, even if not that much, if just anyone can hand their winning ticket over to a highschool hockey player.

The original endorser or whomever should have just stepped up and paid the $50k...worth more in publicity and goodwill.

It's funny how everyone is acting like the dad is some moral do-gooder and setting a fine example. I'm sure never in his wildest dreams did he think they'd take away the prize.
Sep 2, 2011 2:23am
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Sep 2, 2011 7:21 AM
I don't understand why anyone is making any deal of this at all. If I went down there and shot when my brother-in-law's name was chosen I would have no chance of winning any money. No one would question that. The only reason there's sympathy is because they're twins and they're kids.
Sep 2, 2011 7:21am
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gut

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Sep 2, 2011 10:52 AM
GOONx19;880051 wrote:The only reason there's sympathy is because they're twins and they're kids.
This is certainly part of it. I think the other thing is that even an NHL player would put, what, maybe 1 in 10 through there? Their substitution rule is really designed to prevent someone who's never been on the ice (and probably couldn't even get the puck all the way there) from giving their winning ticket to someone with a chance. These companies insure dozens, if not hundreds of these events and those rules are critical to determining what they charge to make a profit on this. But the other side is it's definitely a loop hole because in this case the substitution probably did not materially impact those odds. And the bottom line is people just never like to see big business stick it to the little guy (even if "stick it" is unfair in this case).
Sep 2, 2011 10:52am